Others Porn Empire [v0.91] [PEdev]

[Carmen Sandiego]

all this information should be given to the player. frankly its bad design to have all this happen "under the hood" and the player has no way of knowing what is happening.
in fact seems like alot of system interactions are obtuse and poorly conveyed to the player. for instance im playing on the easiest difficulty and i still have the 20% consistency penalty on scenes and i dont know what it is, why does it appear and how can i play around it. when people also reported this issue, dev just said to adjust difficulty and it should sort itself. well ... it didnt.
UI needs a bit of rework imo

Consistency is actually one of the easier mechanics to understand, but I get what you mean because it's not really explained. It's easy to pick up on though if you play a certain way. Anyway, consistency is, as mbmb described it (I think), your brand. I get that you might want to go out and shoot a wide variety of porn, but that will kill your consistency. Pick like one or two basic things (solo, boy-girl, girl-girl, ethnicity, hair, bust size, etc) and focus on that. If you need to branch out to fulfill a job request, cool. But 90% or so of the porn you shoot should be "on brand" in order to keep consistency at 20%, which is an insane boost (or debuff).

For example. I start out shooting solo and boy-girl scenes (I play as a male btw). Once I start building fame/fans, I pretty much leave solo alone (you can shoot more than one kind of scene but you have to consistently shoot those scenes) but I'll slowly add a tag to boy-girl scenes over time until I get more market share and build the brand I want. Eventually my brand will be solo + masturbation and boy-girl+blowjob+creampie and sometimes other tags to fulfill job requests. But all my solo vids will have the masturbation tag and all my boy girl vids will have the blowjob and creampie tags. That's how you build your brand and maximize consistency. You could start with all the tags you want, but I like the slow burn. This game helps me think about my game. I digress, hope that helps!

 

[Ashtondamion]

Consistency is actually one of the easier mechanics to understand, but I get what you mean because it's not really explained. It's easy to pick up on though if you play a certain way. Anyway, consistency is, as mbmb described it (I think), your brand. I get that you might want to go out and shoot a wide variety of porn, but that will kill your consistency. Pick like one or two basic things (solo, boy-girl, girl-girl, ethnicity, hair, bust size, etc) and focus on that. If you need to branch out to fulfill a job request, cool. But 90% or so of the porn you shoot should be "on brand" in order to keep consistency at 20%, which is an insane boost (or debuff).

You meant to keep consistency at 0%?

 

[Tempor]

Consistency is actually one of the easier mechanics to understand, but I get what you mean because it's not really explained. It's easy to pick up on though if you play a certain way. Anyway, consistency is, as mbmb described it (I think), your brand. I get that you might want to go out and shoot a wide variety of porn, but that will kill your consistency. Pick like one or two basic things (solo, boy-girl, girl-girl, ethnicity, hair, bust size, etc) and focus on that. If you need to branch out to fulfill a job request, cool. But 90% or so of the porn you shoot should be "on brand" in order to keep consistency at 20%, which is an insane boost (or debuff).

that does not make much sense since for the most part i go for the boy-girl scenes, with all tags selected pre shoot being the same. when i branch out of that is when i do make more money per scene
and if consistency is factored by each individual variable (tit size, age, ethnicity, scene type, and so on) then you either play with an army of clones to have all the variables be the same across all actresses (which doesnt seem very fun to spam the same thing over and over imo) or risk driving your business into the ground

EDIT: thinking about it if the idea for consistency is to promote a specialized type of brand for the player to go for, then the dev should take the opposite approach. Instead of debuffing scenes for (and penalizing) people who like to branch out, the game should only reward players who stick to their genre by giving their scene publishing bonuses. In fact if you stick to a few niches you are consciously restricting yourself, and by having bonuses to your publishing for being consistent could be a way to mitigate that

 

[Carmen Sandiego]

You meant to keep consistency at 0%?

No, you want your consistency to stay at +20%. It starts at 0 and either raises or lowers depending on the vids you shoot.

that does not make much sense since for the most part i go for the boy-girl scenes, with all tags selected pre shoot being the same. when i branch out of that is when i do make more money per scene
and if consistency is factored by each individual variable (tit size, age, ethnicity, scene type, and so on) then you either play with an army of clones to have all the variables be the same across all actresses (which doesnt seem very fun to spam the same thing over and over imo) or risk driving your business into the ground

Like I said, around 90% of the porn you shoot, completely made up # but the point is most of it, needs to be on brand. My consistency stays at +20%. It dips sometimes when I do special requests but usually not by much because I simply add whatever tag is requested to what I normally do. It does dip though, because that still isn't on brand. Honestly though, I don't really worry about job requests that don't fit my models and I instead focus on stacking bonuses. You can pull $100k for publishing a video with the right bonuses stacked. Between that and photomodels, which are far easier to fulfill jobs for, it's easy to make bank once you get the hang of it.

 

[BillieJeans]

all this information should be given to the player. frankly its bad design to have all this happen "under the hood" and the player has no way of knowing what is happening.
in fact seems like alot of system interactions are obtuse and poorly conveyed to the player. for instance im playing on the easiest difficulty and i still have the 20% consistency penalty on scenes and i dont know what it is, why does it appear and how can i play around it. when people also reported this issue, dev just said to adjust difficulty and it should sort itself. well ... it didnt.
UI needs a bit of rework imo

To be fair, everything about this system makes perfect sense. Sure, interactions are kinda arbitrary (For example, Perfect Tits/Ass and Beautiful traits imho should have extra effect on girls income, but they only have indirect impact), but in the end they all fit the theme well.
As for consistency, I posted a giant writeup on it here (the next few posts might be of interest to you, too), but long story short, if you go over 50 published movies in 70 days the game starts tracking consistency. It penalizes you for having significant variance in model levels, scene popularities AND scene bonus levels.
As the bonus level is hard to control (as it changes based on traits, scene types, trending bonuses, consistency level itself...), and it has significant impact in the calculations, it almost inevitably leads to problems with consistency. And, mind you, this system really IS obtuse. I don't find cam girls mechanics to be bad. Consistency, the way it's implemented in v084b at least, IMHO is.

Like I said, around 90% of the porn you shoot, completely made up # but the point is most of it, needs to be on brand.

Close enough :>. To be precise, the number is 80%.

 

[ririmudev]

To be fair, everything about this system makes perfect sense. Sure, interactions are kinda arbitrary (For example, Perfect Tits/Ass and Beautiful traits imho should have extra effect on girls income, but they only have indirect impact), but in the end they all fit the theme well.
As for consistency, I posted a giant writeup on it here (the next few posts might be of interest to you, too), but long story short, if you go over 50 published movies in 70 days the game starts tracking consistency. It penalizes you for having significant variance in model levels, scene popularities AND scene bonus levels.
As the bonus level is hard to control (as it changes based on traits, scene types, trending bonuses, consistency level itself...), and it has significant impact in the calculations, it almost inevitably leads to problems with consistency. And, mind you, this system really IS obtuse. I don't find cam girls mechanics to be bad. Consistency, the way it's implemented in v084b at least, IMHO is.


Close enough :>. To be precise, the number is 80%.

Well... I had decided against saying anything, but here goes. Your previous posts tempted my hacker spirit a bit too much, so I went ahead and made my own modded version (note to all: I can't provide the mod; can only describe what I changed in the below spoiler):

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I only decided to say something, since there might be one or two ideas in there that our good dev may want to pick up.

 

[Hans Zuchter]

Well... I had decided against saying anything, but here goes. Your previous posts tempted my hacker spirit a bit too much, so I went ahead and made my own modded version

Hire this guy.

(note to all: I can't provide the mod; can only describe what I changed in the below spoiler):

You tease!

 

[mbmb]

v0.9, to relief of many, consistency was removed from penalties and reworked into reputation calculations
which is by far the biggest change. it's not a linear increase but more dynamically calculated based on things you own and do.
scenes, websites, contracted girls, rep from events, work contracts, ...
that makes it almost impossible to get to lvl3 in 2 months.

some of the ririmudev stuff is in, like support for 4 npcs in convo and able to call commands on them individually ( dress/undress, fuck, stat based, ...), bugfixes and so on
you're now the third guy that suggested trait based dirty talk. might as well do that.
having able to choose discarded pornstars to call for events could also be cool. didnt thought about them, you can call basically everyone else.
and a little bow for dabbling with godot awful animator.

 

[zeltop]

simple mod that removes consistency penalty, to use just unpack to `%appdata%\Godot\app_userdata\Porn Empire`

!THIS IS FOR v8 ONLY!

(merge the /mods/ folders)

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[Ashtondamion]

simple mod that removes consistency penalty, to use just unpack to `%appdata%\Godot\app_userdata\Porn Empire`

(merge the /mods/ folders)

You must be registered to see the links

Can it work for Android version too

 

[Hans Zuchter]

The thing that I really like about this game is the way it can randomly generate attractive models on the fly. Figure 99% of the junk on F95 are either linear RenPy VNs with stock models that only serve the dev's own personal fetishes or are just cut & paste assets from either Honey Select or art stolen from Sankaku Complex and tossed into a blender to create another VN that only serves their dev's own fetishes.

Actual original artwork is rare, an actual game rarer still, and a project that hasn't been abandoned after the first three months is rarest of all. This game meets all three marks and for that I have to give major kudos.

 

[DrLizardman]

So the blog says that website fees will be customizable now in the new update... were they not before?

 

[zeltop]

Can it work for Android version too

If you put it in android equivalent of folder i mentioned, i don't know where it is (your saves dir), you might need root

 

[Bogeynumber01]

So a new version hit patreon 2 weeks ago. Is there a timeline for a free version? I don't keep up with this game too frequently so I'm not sure when the releases normally get made public.

 

[zeltop]

So a new version hit patreon 2 weeks ago. Is there a timeline for a free version? I don't keep up with this game too frequently so I'm not sure when the releases normally get made public.

Having looked at patreon feed, it seems to be 1-3 months between dev and public releases

 

[RealF]

The thing that I really like about this game is the way it can randomly generate attractive models on the fly. Figure 99% of the junk on F95 are either linear RenPy VNs with stock models that only serve the dev's own personal fetishes or are just cut & paste assets from either Honey Select or art stolen from Sankaku Complex and tossed into a blender to create another VN that only serves their dev's own fetishes.

Actual original artwork is rare, an actual game rarer still, and a project that hasn't been abandoned after the first three months is rarest of all. This game meets all three marks and for that I have to give major kudos.

Any other games like this out there?

 

[maultierr]

newest dev version on patreon crashes as hell. when you do casting or shoot scene, cheats are on or off, anyway. I'm very disappointed!
p.s. android

 

[R B gamercz]

Hello i have problem with launching the app

 

[Soul954]

How do you install mods? I downloaded some character mods(.pechar) from their site but when I go into mod tools and import model and try to import any of the mods, the game crashes.

 

[Hans Zuchter]

Any other games like this out there?

Not really.

LabRats2 has actual game mechanics & rando models, but the assets it pulls from are rather limited and the animations are barely even there.

Breeders of the Nephilim is entirely rando furry girls, but you can add in your own custom girls with zero furry traits for a human experience. Models suffer from a really bad case of sameface, though, and while the animations are pretty good the gameplay mechanics have only gotten worse since it first came out and is pretty much abandoned now.

If text only is enough for you then I'd suggest Lilith's Throne or Free Cities. Both have actual gameplay to them and can be tweaked to your own desires extensively (obviously made much easier by being text only).

Almost all Illusion games allow for extensive character customization, have garbage game mechanics and despite all the customization tools they throw out there it is still impossible to this day to make a girl who doesn't look like Asian in any of them. Of course if that's you thing then great but if you want anything else it's just not gonna happen.

If you want to find the Pregnancy tag actually being used as intended (as opposed to the usual "we'll get around to it someday") then you've got... umm... well, I hope you like anime because that tag pretty much curses non-Japanese games to end up either abandoned within three months or the dev going completely insane. If you're into anime though you're in luck because 99% of the games on F95 that actually achieve the near-mythical "completed" tag are Japanese anime games.

TiTS claims to have random encounters but they're all exactly alike & use the same premade art cards for all of them. Plus over the years it's basically turned into nothing but a giant pile of MC getting ass-raped by futas.


So yeah... like I said, there's a few games that can achieve one of the Holy Trinity of good game criteria, but so far is the only one that's managed to hit all three: Good looking randomly generated characters, real gameplay mechanics and nothing is stolen from someplace else or a cheap asset-flip.