Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[Deleted member 6870930]

is this game became a visual novel? I downloaded the game and it's like kinetic novel with no choices or point and click stuff?

 

[Satou Pendragon]

is this game became a visual novel? I downloaded the game and it's like kinetic novel with no choices or point and click stuff?

Did you download the Mandatory Patch too?

 

[Deleted member 6870930]

Did you download the Mandatory Patch too?

Nope. Just downloaded now and it solved the problem.

 

[jmcronshaw]

is this game became a visual novel? I downloaded the game and it's like kinetic novel with no choices or point and click stuff?

there aren't any real choices.
If you have NTR on you'll get a choice that may lead to NTR, but even if you make that choice the game brings you back to the choice so you can make the "correct" non NTR choice.
for all intents and purposes this is a kinetic novel

 

[Satou Pendragon]

there aren't any real choices.
If you have NTR on you'll get a choice that may lead to NTR, but even if you make that choice the game brings you back to the choice so you can make the "correct" non NTR choice.
for all intents and purposes this is a kinetic novel

The User didn't download the Mandatory patch so he had a "movie" without any choices.

 

[jadaonix2222]

So... when?

 

[DeathIsImminent]

So... when?

 

[Bakemono695]

Checking this thread 5 times everyday because I'm now excited for the new release and more Ophelia and Brenna

Anyone else on the edge? I feel like a million zippers would be heard unzipping across the world once this release comes

 

[dartred]

So... when?

Check my sig for everything you need to know PV.

 

[saneeh121]

anyone have chapter 12 dec version?

 

[BBC King]

Not a fan of the robot, the developer should have made a better way to communicate information instead of this 4th wall breaking sci-fi thing that has no real reason to even exist. Further to that point, why didnt the dev just make this a purely "coming home incest romp", did he ever explain why Hunter is even a character to begin with? The entire plot plays out the same with or without him.

Camwhoring big sister, sexually inexperienced little sister, sexually starved mom who does anything for her baby boy...I mean the game is pretty much The Tyrant love route.

 

[SuddenReal]

The entire plot plays out the same with or without him.

Oh, come on. Did you even read the story or did you just skip the dialogue? This whole game is satire. It's a parody on your run-of-the-mill incest games. And because of that, Hunter is very necessary. He's the reason for everything. Take him out and you have the most boring game ever (and no, I'm not talking about the NTR scenes).

 

[Fayn Arawn]

Not a fan of the robot, the developer should have made a better way to communicate information instead of this 4th wall breaking sci-fi thing that has no real reason to even exist. Further to that point, why didnt the dev just make this a purely "coming home incest romp", did he ever explain why Hunter is even a character to begin with? The entire plot plays out the same with or without him.

Camwhoring big sister, sexually inexperienced little sister, sexually starved mom who does anything for her baby boy...I mean the game is pretty much The Tyrant love route.

True, the robot doesn't have an in-universe reason to exist (that we know of), but its existence reminds us this game is not meant to be taken too seriously. Power Vacuum is largely a parody of the "house game" genre, poking fun at the common tropes, so similar character archetypes or situations are deliberately ironic.

I strongly disagree about Hunter, he's the catalyst for the whole story. As the villain, he's proactive when Sterling is mostly reactive. Hunter creates the conditions for Sterling to get the girls, through the use of drugs and hormones that raise everyone's libidos while lowering their inhibitions. Hunter's also responsible for Sterling's physical transformation, through the use of Human Growth Hormone, although Catherine's training was necessary as well.

 

[FoolishFool0]

True, the robot doesn't have an in-universe reason to exist (that we know of), but its existence reminds us this game is not meant to be taken too seriously. Power Vacuum is largely a parody of the "house game" genre, poking fun at the common tropes, so similar character archetypes or situations are deliberately ironic.

I strongly disagree about Hunter, he's the catalyst for the whole story. As the villain, he's proactive when Sterling is mostly reactive. Hunter creates the conditions for Sterling to get the girls, through the use of drugs and hormones that raise everyone's libidos while lowering their inhibitions. Hunter's also responsible for Sterling's physical transformation, through the use of Human Growth Hormone, although Catherine's training was necessary as well.

Hunter also works as a replacement for the protagonist doing the more fucked up shit too, since it shifts the blame on a secondary character rather than the MC, which I will bet my ASS will be explored and lampooned in chapter 12 when Hunter will try to claim the MC is the one using the drugs and the cameras like a common house protagonist.

 

[BBC King]

Oh, come on. Did you even read the story or did you just skip the dialogue? This whole game is satire. It's a parody on your run-of-the-mill incest games. And because of that, Hunter is very necessary. He's the reason for everything. Take him out and you have the most boring game ever (and no, I'm not talking about the NTR scenes).

The developer likes making jokes but I wouldnt go so far as to call the entire game satire because we are 11 chapters deep into this game. Its still a game with a story that can be analyzed and with or without Hunter its the exact same game. Only difference with Hunter is you get a few more quick scenes here and there.

True, the robot doesn't have an in-universe reason to exist (that we know of), but its existence reminds us this game is not meant to be taken too seriously. Power Vacuum is largely a parody of the "house game" genre, poking fun at the common tropes, so similar character archetypes or situations are deliberately ironic.

I strongly disagree about Hunter, he's the catalyst for the whole story. As the villain, he's proactive when Sterling is mostly reactive. Hunter creates the conditions for Sterling to get the girls, through the use of drugs and hormones that raise everyone's libidos while lowering their inhibitions. Hunter's also responsible for Sterling's physical transformation, through the use of Human Growth Hormone, although Catherine's training was necessary as well.

Plenty of games poke fun at genre's, tropes, etc but if your defining the entire game around that then what was the point when you are pretty much joining the ones youre calling out? Hunter doesnt seem as integral as you make him out to be, alot of his actions could be the actions of a third party; Eva, Amber, Aliza...it feels like a cheap narrative device; "Oh heres a guy who has cheat codes to bang all the girls so just wait until he activates them then swoop in". I feel like you coulda told a better story without him.

 

[TrueJackal]

Check my sig for everything you need to know PV.

You don't know HOW crossed my fingers are.
I'm super excited for the new chapter. If he needs more time, that's fine, I'll live. But I got my bingo sheet ready, and


I!
AM!
HYPED!!!

 

[Fayn Arawn]

Plenty of games poke fun at genre's, tropes, etc but if your defining the entire game around that then what was the point when you are pretty much joining the ones youre calling out? Hunter doesnt seem as integral as you make him out to be, alot of his actions could be the actions of a third party; Eva, Amber, Aliza...it feels like a cheap narrative device; "Oh heres a guy who has cheat codes to bang all the girls so just wait until he activates them then swoop in". I feel like you coulda told a better story without him.

Of course Hunter's existence serves the narrative, but calling that "cheap" is subjective. Hunter is the antagonist and source of conflict. There's a saying in writing: "there is no story without conflict." If Hunter wasn't part of the story then it wouldn't BE a story, it would just be a series of events, and that is boring.

Hunter is also the benefactor. As FoolishFool0 astutely pointed out, Hunter is the one to get his hands dirty, which means Sterling doesn't have to stoop to the level of other games' MCs while still reaping the rewards. That's why Hunter really exists, in a meta sense. These games are a fantasy, but in order to be even slightly plausible the MC needs some kind of gimmick or advantage that helps him easily seduce every female in his life. Such gimmicks are usually unethical and almost always contrived, but having them implemented by a villain allows the other characters (especially the MC) to keep a clear conscience.

What makes this game shine is the characters. The believability of the premise was never what made this game stand out, it was always a means to an end, so maybe try not to get hung up on it.

 

[BBC King]

Of course Hunter's existence serves the narrative, but calling that "cheap" is subjective. Hunter is the antagonist and source of conflict. There's a saying in writing: "there is no story without conflict." If Hunter wasn't part of the story then it wouldn't BE a story, it would just be a series of events, and that is boring.

Hunter is also the benefactor. As FoolishFool0 astutely pointed out, Hunter is the one to get his hands dirty, which means Sterling doesn't have to stoop to the level of other games' MCs while still reaping the rewards. That's why Hunter really exists, in a meta sense. These games are a fantasy, but in order to be even slightly plausible the MC needs some kind of gimmick or advantage that helps him easily seduce every female in his life. Such gimmicks are usually unethical and almost always contrived, but having them implemented by a villain allows the other characters (especially the MC) to keep a clear conscience.

What makes this game shine is the characters. The believability of the premise was never what made this game stand out, it was always a means to an end, so maybe try not to get hung up on it.

I view Hunter as more of an imaginary plot device. He has no real power, his actions will never adversely affect the game because there is no consequence, you speak of conflict but the game doesnt punish you, in fact it does all it can to make it so you never fail.

Hunter being a benefactor is just another "reason" to justify his existence, a debt can be saddled to anyone, a mother struggling to make ends meet, a very wealthy aunt who helps out her sister, a relative who passed away and set very specific regulations in a will, are all perfectly usable plot devices. The situation is only like that because the dev wanted it to be. It feels like the developer split 1 character into 2. Instead of 1 MC who does all the typical stuff you would expect we get 2 MC's, Sterling who acts holier than thou even tho he still wants to fuck his family and Hunter who is pretty much doing what every incest MC does in these types of games.

I agree that the only shine I am seeing here are the characters. I was expecting to be blown away by how you guys seemingly talk about this game here but I gotta say its very generic outside of the girls.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

I view Hunter as more of an imaginary plot device. He has no real power, his actions will never adversely affect the game because there is no consequence, you speak of conflict but the game doesnt punish you, in fact it does all it can to make it so you never fail.

Hunter being a benefactor is just another "reason" to justify his existence, a debt can be saddled to anyone, a mother struggling to make ends meet, a very wealthy aunt who helps out her sister, a relative who passed away and set very specific regulations in a will, are all perfectly usable plot devices. The situation is only like that because the dev wanted it to be. It feels like the developer split 1 character into 2. Instead of 1 MC who does all the typical stuff you would expect we get 2 MC's, Sterling who acts holier than thou even tho he still wants to fuck his family and Hunter who is pretty much doing what every incest MC does in these types of games.

I agree that the only shine I am seeing here are the characters. I was expecting to be blown away by how you guys seemingly talk about this game here but I gotta say its very generic outside of the girls.

First, while we often refer to Power Vacuum as a "game", it's really a semi-interactive visual novel, with only one "true" story. Many stories have villains that are valid threats but who ultimately fail.

For the sake of discussion, I'll admit it might be more interesting if Hunter had some success in order to prove himself as a threat and raise the drama, but in fact he has already done so with Nora and Keira in the journal flashback. I think this was a clever way to address the issue you're describing without "sacrificing" any of the other female characters who've been built up so far.

I wouldn't necessarily have been opposed to Hunter having a canon "win" in the present storyline, but that would be a bold move that would almost certainly alienate a lot of fans. The Rebecca/Cerberus subplot did not go over well with some fans; Hunter scoring with any of the girls "for real" would cause 100 times the outrage. Again, I'm not arguing for or against, but this is a porn fantasy, not some grimdark epic, and it's understandable the dev might not want to give Hunter any of the other ladies.

 

[BBC King]

First, while we often refer to Power Vacuum as a "game", it's really a semi-interactive visual novel, with only one "true" story. Many stories have villains that are valid threats but who ultimately fail.

For the sake of discussion, I'll admit it might be more interesting if Hunter had some success in order to prove himself as a threat and raise the drama, but in fact he has already done so with Nora and Keira in the journal flashback. I think this was a clever way to address the issue you're describing without "sacrificing" any of the other female characters who've been built up so far.

I wouldn't necessarily have been opposed to Hunter having a canon "win" in the present storyline, but that would be a bold move that would almost certainly alienate a lot of fans. The Rebecca/Cerberus subplot did not go over well with some fans; Hunter scoring with any of the girls "for real" would cause 100 times the outrage. Again, I'm not arguing for or against, but this is a porn fantasy, not some grimdark epic, and it's understandable the dev might not want to give Hunter any of the other ladies.

Yeah I think he shoulda went all the way. It would have made for a better story to me and the whole alienation thing would happen but only in regards to Harem vs NTR, which at this point I am pretty sure is a good thing for games rather than bad.