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When Ophelia found out that he was stalking her, she hated him very much... but now in the NTR scene we see completely different reactions and the plot is a narrative that happened quickly and hastily...
The reason why it's a different reaction is because Sterling made the decision for her. Kevin is a non-issue for her at that point, so her anger is directed at Sterling because he took her decision away from her (which is why she slipped back into her Madre persona). As for the narrative happening so quickly, well, it needs to be wrapped up quickly, right?
 

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The reason why it's a different reaction is because Sterling made the decision for her. Kevin is a non-issue for her at that point, so her anger is directed at Sterling because he took her decision away from her (which is why she slipped back into her Madre persona). As for the narrative happening so quickly, well, it needs to be wrapped up quickly, right?
Right. but wouldn't you like to see the scene between Ophelia and Kevin be tougher than what we actually saw? Well, it's true, it was a very easy scene for me, don't get me wrong, but this one is like looking into Kevin's brain and seeing it as if it was his fantasy that was resolved very quickly and easily... I understand for you this may be normal, but I expected a tougher narrative and not just one where Kevin, like a little boy, is happy that he has won his desired woman and plays with her, the scene turned out like a special order for the fans and closed the story with Kevin... ;)

I'll be glad not to see him again, I don't care about the rest :Kappa:
 
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dude everyone knows NTR ends, women go apeshit, jump on anyone's dick except Sterling's and make the weirdest ahegao faces, there is no logic to bad ends, wonder if a bad end is crafted where Drew drugs Sterling and Sterling kills hunter and drops the dorky attitude. Or Catherine makes her watch some red pill podcasts and he mans the fuck up :ROFLMAO:
 
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You didn't understand the specific meaning. I say the scene with Kevin and Ophelia turned out to be, to put it mildly, simple, that is, how can I explain it to you in simple words... When Ophelia found out that he was stalking her, she hated him very much... but now in the NTR scene we see completely different reactions and the plot is a narrative that happened quickly and hastily... I expected that Kevin, out of anger and revenge, would want to steal Ophelia from Sterling, but what do we see? Ophelia herself jumped on him... in general, for me it looked simple, but it’s your right to think so)))
Right. but wouldn't you like to see the scene between Ophelia and Kevin be tougher than what we actually saw? Well, it's true, it was a very easy scene for me, don't get me wrong, but this one is like looking into Kevin's brain and seeing it as if it was his fantasy that was resolved very quickly and easily... I understand for you this may be normal, but I expected a tougher narrative and not just one where Kevin, like a little boy, is happy that he has won his desired woman and plays with her... ;)
The women may seem to betray Sterling too quickly and easily in the bad endings, but this is for several reasons...

The first reason is practical: this game only has one true path, and the dev is not going to waste time creating long, "believable" NTR scenarios where the girls are slowly corrupted by Sterling's rivals.

Another reason is for comedy. I understand that people have differing senses of humor, but the idea that women are so fickle that they'll fuck whomever is around is meant to be funny. Even so, it's often said that “behind every joke there is some truth”. This could be seen as a cynical judgement of women, or as merely acknowledging the importance of being in the right place at the right time.

Probably the biggest reason is a major theme of the game: the women have needs. Remember what Hunter mentions at the beginning of this game, which is also its title: "Power Vacuum". Even though we can blame aphrodisiac gas or special wine, these women are lonely and horny and need love and sex. They'll rationalize giving it to whoever gives it to them, so the goal is to be the only man around to fulfill these needs. If you can suspend your disbelief enough to accept that the girls would fuck Sterling, in spite of being related and all of the taboo, it only takes a little more imagination to believe they would fuck Sterling's rivals if circumstances change.
 

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The women may seem to betray Sterling too quickly and easily in the bad endings, but this is for several reasons...

The first reason is practical: this game only has one true path, and the dev is not going to waste time creating long, "believable" NTR scenarios where the girls are slowly corrupted by Sterling's rivals.

Another reason is for comedy. I understand that people have differing senses of humor, but the idea that women are so fickle that they'll fuck whomever is around is meant to be funny. Even so, it's often said that “behind every joke there is some truth”. This could be seen as a cynical judgement of women, or as merely acknowledging the importance of being in the right place at the right time.

Probably the biggest reason is a major theme of the game: the women have needs. Remember what Hunter mentions at the beginning of this game, which is also its title: "Power Vacuum". Even though we can blame aphrodisiac gas or special wine, these women are lonely and horny and need love and sex. They'll rationalize giving it to whoever gives it to them, so the goal is to be the only man around to fulfill these needs. If you can suspend your disbelief enough to accept that the girls would fuck Sterling, in spite of being related and all of the taboo, it only takes a little more imagination to believe they would fuck Sterling's rivals if circumstances change.
I can agree with this and don’t argue... but I think you understood what I really meant, purely theoretically, if corruption in the ntr revolution was more severe, then it would still be interesting, in my opinion... but I think you’re right, to create these scenes are like long plots, you will be lazy and waste time... but about Kevin and their quick fuck, I think you understand what I meant)))
 
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I can agree with this and don’t argue... but I think you understood what I really meant, purely theoretically, if corruption in the ntr revolution was more severe, then it would still be interesting, in my opinion... but I think you’re right, to create these scenes are like long plots, you will be lazy and waste time... but about Kevin and their quick fuck, I think you understand what I meant)))
And to be fair, there's another reason I forgot to mention, which is some fans really wanted a scene where Kevin gets Ophelia. Let's be honest, there are probably more players who can relate to Kevin than can relate to Sterling. So his ending was also a fantasy for them, which is why it ended with the joking congratulatory message...

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And to be fair, there's another reason I forgot to mention, which is some fans really wanted a scene where Kevin gets Ophelia. Let's be honest, there are probably more players who can relate to Kevin than can relate to Sterling. So his ending was also a fantasy for them, which is why it ended with the joking congratulatory message...

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Here you go. This is what I'm talking about, the scene with Kevin had nothing that could be called direct NTR and was made for people who were waiting for them and ended for him with a happy but a little fantasy ending... you've already put an end to it, because that's me I tried to explain, it’s just that the scene turned out a little like a special episode, you're right)))
 

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And to be fair, there's another reason I forgot to mention, which is some fans really wanted a scene where Kevin gets Ophelia. Let's be honest, there are probably more players who can relate to Kevin than can relate to Sterling. So his ending was also a fantasy for them, which is why it ended with the joking congratulatory message...

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The dev had time for the big bad ending but he skipped the night event for Sterling and Ophelia 63/64 which they just cut to black when they had sex and also during the Mallory and Aliza's threesome event, just a tease of a single render was shown of Sterling and Ophelia, I wonder if they skipped bad ends and just cut to black before the lewd scenes like this then what would their patrons do.
 

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The dev had time for the big bad ending but he skipped the night event for Sterling and Ophelia 63/64 which they just cut to black when they had sex and also during the Mallory and Aliza's threesome event, just a tease of a single render was shown of Sterling and Ophelia, I wonder if they skipped bad ends and just cut to black before the lewd scenes like this then what would their patrons do.
Let's not be greedy, it's not a zero-sum situation where the dev is sacrificing Sterling and Ophelia's sex scenes. Those brief skipped scenes are only there to inform us that at this point Sterling and Ophelia are having sex frequently. As much as I'd love to see it every single time, the simple fact is we don't need to. Most sex scenes in this game serve to advance the plot, but there isn't going to be plot development every time they have sex, so showing it would be purely gratuitous. Sure, this is a porn game, but it's also story-driven. Watching Sterling and Ophelia fuck when they have nothing to talk about would be missing the intrigue that makes their encounters so hot. I've found that a lot of games get boring pretty fast when the sex becomes obligatory and routine, and I prefer that doesn't happen to PV.
 

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Let's not be greedy, it's not a zero-sum situation where the dev is sacrificing Sterling and Ophelia's sex scenes. Those brief skipped scenes are only there to inform us that at this point Sterling and Ophelia are having sex frequently. As much as I'd love to see it every single time, the simple fact is we don't need to. Most sex scenes in this game serve to advance the plot, but there isn't going to be plot development every time they have sex, so showing it would be purely gratuitous. Sure, this is a porn game, but it's also story-driven. Watching Sterling and Ophelia fuck when they have nothing to talk about would be missing the intrigue that makes their encounters so hot. I've found that a lot of games get boring pretty fast when the sex becomes obligatory and routine, and I prefer that doesn't happen to PV.
Not so fair take on this one I'm afraid... clearly mentioned in the previous update by Ophelia to Sterling that they would experiment more and take more time in their relationship, skipping lewd scenes is not a way to go, only having one night event and skipping it, the talk would have been more effective after showing the complete lewd scene also the very next day were Ophelia's hair style is completely ruined because of Sterling due to her being railed by him, that event is shown but the sex is also skipped there... it says that they're having a lot of sex but without the dev actually actually showing them doing it, that's the main complaint. Not being greedy here just realistic. Also, would to re-iterate the last point which I made as well, I wonder if they skipped bad ends and just cut to black before the lewd scenes like this then what would their patrons do.
 

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Not so fair take on this one I'm afraid... clearly mentioned in the previous update by Ophelia to Sterling that they would experiment more and take more time in their relationship, skipping lewd scenes is not a way to go, only having one night event and skipping it, the talk would have been more effective after showing the complete lewd scene also the very next day were Ophelia's hair style is completely ruined because of Sterling due to her being railed by him, that event is shown but the sex is also skipped there... it says that they're having a lot of sex but without the dev actually actually showing them doing it, that's the main complaint. Not being greedy here just realistic. Also, would to re-iterate the last point which I made as well, I wonder if they skipped bad ends and just cut to black before the lewd scenes like this then what would their patrons do.
You make a decent argument; considering Ophelia's earlier comments then it does feel a little rushed. As I said, I'll always want to see more scenes with her (as she's my favorite character), but I'm starting to agree that one more scene with Ophelia and Sterling would've been appropriate before they started having threesomes.

I understand your disappointment, but you don't seem to understand the patrons (of which I am one). A lot of patrons enjoy the bad endings for various reasons and without taking them too seriously. They hope for certain pairings or scenarios because the variety and improbability is fun. But the patrons generally don't get too upset just because something didn't go the way they wanted. For instance: I'm not a fan of the dog scenes, but I know some people are. I could look at those scenes as "taking away" from something else I'd rather see, but instead I try to be tolerant of differing tastes.
 

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You make a decent argument; considering Ophelia's earlier comments then it does feel a little rushed. As I said, I'll always want to see more scenes with her (as she's my favorite character), but I'm starting to agree that one more scene with Ophelia and Sterling would've been appropriate before they started having threesomes.

I understand your disappointment, but you don't seem to understand the patrons (of which I am one). A lot of patrons enjoy the bad endings for various reasons and without taking them too seriously. They hope for certain pairings or scenarios because the variety and improbability is fun. But the patrons generally don't get too upset just because something didn't go the way they wanted. For instance: I'm not a fan of the dog scenes, but I know some people are. I could look at those scenes as "taking away" from something else I'd rather see, but instead I try to be tolerant of differing tastes.
Well, thank you for understanding that's all I would say. I understand the patrons of this game well, after chapter 10 I dropped my membership, most of the patrons and high rollers are leaning towards the NTR genre, so yeah, the developer has more scenes for them, just wishing that vanilla wasn't so obviously neglected, that's why I stopped pledging.
 
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The bestiality with Rebecca is avoidable, Brenna as well I think. If you seen it, it's because you made the wrong choice. Go back and change your choice and, no dog.
I know about the damn choice to not open the door and let the fucker in to, well, fuck her, but Rebecca getting her pussy eaten by the damn dog IS NOT avoidable. She tells you herself she let the dog eat her out after the shower incident at her grandma's farm, and that dildo she had there don't make me believe she never let it smash for 'scientific purposes', but I don't remember if anything was mentioned about this.

Sick bitch even let it in the shower with her, so yeah, there's NO actual choice to avoid the start of her beasty experience, Sterling's just going full retard and accepts it for the player, and storywise, it's bullshit, considering how she pretended to be a virgin sooo affected after he took her virginity. The part I found really funny was that he wasn't even supposed to find out, and he still ate her pussy, cuz fuck it... fuck decision and the players opinion about this shit. Bruuhh.:ROFLMAO::eek::FacePalm:

And there are no bacteria, this is just a GAME.
It is a damn game, but that don't make it any less disgusting for some players, and I'm still using the 'realism' argument, cuz the dev himself used it a lot in some characters' cases when the player wanted to speed things up and get to the sex part, especially when the MC tried so hard to fuck Brenna and she gave him all that bullshit about supposedly being a human being with feelings and shit, not a walking, braindead fuckhole, like she's in the noncanonical NTR scenes... oh, the irony in hearing hypocrites victimize themselves and pretend they're sooo innocent.:rolleyes::ROFLMAO:

The whole bestiality stuff being unavoidable for sluts like Rebecca, not Brenna, is what I find off-putting and completely illogical storywise, cuz I bet there will be more of that, and I don't know how actually avoidable it's gonna be. You understand now ?? Don't care if the dev got bribed by the same group of NTR crusaders on their unholy mission to ruin every non NTR porn game and porn comic with their shit, but the stuff he added now, at the end of the game, being unavoidable like it was in Rebecca's case, is a real shitty move. The player needs to always have the choice to let something like that happen or not... always, but here, that choice flies out the window, cuz apparently, it's not important enough to implement it.:cautious:

Sterling's braindead logic about kinks and shit being completely ok with him doesn't mean that every player shares his stupidity and likes the shit he does. The least I expected to see there is an option to tell the bitch to go fuck herself and get her head checked by at least a few well-known psychiatrists, cuz she definitely has a lot of screws loose up in there, but instead I get a happy, 0-fucks-given retard eating a damn dog's leftovers. Let's not forget that, until this chapter, nothing in the story (don't know if the dev said anything in the thread) even hinted that bestiality will be added, cuz if it was and everything was avoidable, on-screen and off, I wouldn't be here complaining about it.
 

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Can someone give me chapter 12 on Android so I can download it, I've only found one that says chapter 11 is complete but I want chapter 12 to be on par with the game hehe
 

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Let's not be greedy, it's not a zero-sum situation where the dev is sacrificing Sterling and Ophelia's sex scenes. Those brief skipped scenes are only there to inform us that at this point Sterling and Ophelia are having sex frequently. As much as I'd love to see it every single time, the simple fact is we don't need to. Most sex scenes in this game serve to advance the plot, but there isn't going to be plot development every time they have sex, so showing it would be purely gratuitous. Sure, this is a porn game, but it's also story-driven. Watching Sterling and Ophelia fuck when they have nothing to talk about would be missing the intrigue that makes their encounters so hot. I've found that a lot of games get boring pretty fast when the sex becomes obligatory and routine, and I prefer that doesn't happen to PV.
What do you mean about getting greedy? Does the story progress in bad ends? Sure there were some where Hunter's past revealed in its and bits, which we get in the main storyline regardless. But these bad ends get same old "repetitive" sex with main girls like Ophelia and Brenna anyway. Most of the bad ends are like- Hunter/Other Specimen with a dick fucks Ophelia/Brenna/Catherine for the first time after he kills or incapacitates Sterling. Also did I forget to mention this guy's penis is couple of inches bigger than Sterling's?
I understand your disappointment, but you don't seem to understand the patrons (of which I am one). A lot of patrons enjoy the bad endings for various reasons and without taking them too seriously. They hope for certain pairings or scenarios because the variety and improbability is fun. But the patrons generally don't get too upset just because something didn't go the way they wanted.
Now you say that dev mostly caters to the patrons who want different pairings in bad end sex scenes for variety. So why are there no bad end scenes with Rebecca, Rachita, Tsukiko, Flora etc? Most of the bad ends are about Ophelia or Brenna. So where is the variety then? We will most likely get regular What If updates after this game ends and they will have the same old ntr content with Ophelia and Brenna, the only variety would just be the switching of the male characters fucking them.

Now I'm not against them, surely the highest paying patrons should get what they want but what about the vanilla fans? Why we get only pillow talk in the night event? Why is Ophelia in threesomes with only one position and same angle animation? I get that the dev wants to set up the last orgy with some threesome events but some of us wants some good solo scenes with Ophelia/Brenna like what the ntr scenes have with them. But with only one chapter remaining this seems highly unlikely.
 

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What do you mean about getting greedy? Does the story progress in bad ends? Sure there were some where Hunter's past revealed in its and bits, which we get in the main storyline regardless. But these bad ends get same old "repetitive" sex with main girls like Ophelia and Brenna anyway. Most of the bad ends are like- Hunter/Other Specimen with a dick fucks Ophelia/Brenna/Catherine for the first time after he kills or incapacitates Sterling. Also did I forget to mention this guy's penis is couple of inches bigger than Sterling's?

Now you say that dev mostly caters to the patrons who want different pairings in bad end sex scenes for variety. So why are there no bad end scenes with Rebecca, Rachita, Tsukiko, Flora etc? Most of the bad ends are about Ophelia or Brenna. So where is the variety then? We will most likely get regular What If updates after this game ends and they will have the same old ntr content with Ophelia and Brenna, the only variety would just be the switching of the male characters fucking them.

Now I'm not against them, surely the highest paying patrons should get what they want but what about the vanilla fans? Why we get only pillow talk in the night event? Why is Ophelia in threesomes with only one position and same angle animation? I get that the dev wants to set up the last orgy with some threesome events but some of us wants some good solo scenes with Ophelia/Brenna like what the ntr scenes have with them. But with only one chapter remaining this seems highly unlikely.
I think I addressed most of this in my other recent posts, but I'll add this: Sterling and Ophelia have already had a ton of sex with each other. And even though they only started vaginal sex in chapter 11, they had multiple scenes in that chapter. As comfy and romantic as it would be for them to have more sex without others participating, at some point it had to progress to threesomes and orgies because, for anyone who didn't notice, the sex in this game continually escalates. I've already agreed in an earlier post that one more Ophelia/Sterling scene would've been appropriate, but more than that could start to kill the momentum of the story and drag the game out unnecessarily.

Your definition of "repetitive" is overly reductive, but you have a point, the bad ends focus on the main girls. The reason for this, besides fan interest, is that there's really nothing at stake if Hunter bangs Rebecca or Rachita, etc. Sterling and Hunter are both focused on the main girls, neither are particularly attached to the side characters, so any "NTR" with them loses its sting.
 
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Was it ever explained why Ophelia stopped lactating? I kind of missed it :(
Explained? Nope, believe me, I pay SPECIAL attention to that particular plot thread.

I actually thought that she was pumping it out since the last time it was problem for her was before she went full dom and flat out told Sterling to buy her a breast pump so she wouldn't need him for relief anymore, but then on the threesome scene with Alisa she was still lactating.

So I thought that she was pumping out the excess but she could still breastfeed at some point... and well in chapter 12 she just casually comments that she "was lactating at the time"... so no idea what happened or the timeline to that.

At least we're making a scene here about that, usually when that happens the Dev adresses it in some sort of way later (i.e. when the family is watching a horror movie and someone is complaining that the characters are complete dumbasses and Brenna retorts with either "it's a horror film is not ment to be realistic" or "they're drugged off their minds, they were on spring break" I don't remember wich)
 
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