Ren'Py Abandoned Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

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Fayn Arawn said:
While Hunter is pretty clever, I'm not sure he was playing 4D chess here (and trying to incriminate Sterling). He probably just found the dildo and saw an opportunity to help Ophelia become more sexual. She's his most wanted target, and possibly most challenging one, due to how repressed she is.

Most likely Hunter knew (or deduced) the dildo was cloned from Sterling, but was simply amused by the idea of Ophelia using it. It was also brand new, which was convenient for Hunter because Ophelia may have been less willing to try a "used" one.

I'll go back and check later, but refresh my memory... where and how did Ophelia find the clone dildo? Was it just left in her room? Did it still have the box?
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It just appeared in her bedroom and she thought it was a gift from Brenna
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Yes, Ophelia never scolded Brenna. That's why I said this is where the plan fell through. I did say that. Also, if Hunter would give a dildo to his daughter, claiming it was from his granddaughter, first question wouldn't be "where does it come from" but "why is he snooping in his granddaughter's room".

Hang on... First you say Ophelia THOUGHT it was a gift and now you SAY it was a gift. Which is it? Because nuance matters. And in this case, the nuance is that it is indeed a dildo that randomly appeared but that Ophelia assumed was a gift from Brenna. But if she hadn't assumed that, but that it was Brenna going after her back and getting a new sextoy (after being told she wasn't allowed to), Brenna would have gotten into trouble.

Because of the original plan. Ophelia not getting rid of Sterling's dick wasn't part of the original plan.

Is it? Because we didn't find out that Hunter was responsible for it until WWG told us. And even then, he only told us that Hunter was the one who gave it to her, not what his intentions were. Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong, but it's all speculation. Speculation is not truth. Nothing is obvious. I played Vampire, a LARP with a lot of socio-political elements. I once did a play I believed was very obvious and it didn't work because nobody was paying attention. Some plans don't work out because the people involved don't get it. I believe that's what happened here. Hunter tried to implicate Sterling, but it didn't work because Ophelia didn't respond as Hunter anticipated.
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Again the idea that the plan involved one of them getting scolded at all makes no sense as Hunter could have just given it to Orphelia saying he thought it was her and that she found it, or leave Orphelia to find it her self instead of it magically popping up. It also doesnt make any sense because even if Orphelia did confront them all the blame would just fall on Eva which Hunter would be aware of being he's spying on them. Also there was no snooping in his granddaughters room. The dildo was in the freezer when it went missing brecause once more it was eva's dildo she had modled after Sterling and not Brenna. All Hunter has to say is that he found it in the freezer because that's acutally what happened. No reason to try to claim it's Brennas he can just say he thought it was Orphelia's and that she might not want to put them in a place so open.


And no the nuance of whether Orphelia thought it was a gift or whether it was a gift doesn't matter because it was Hunter who pretented it anonymously in a way for Orpehlia to conclude it was a gift. That was a purseful thing because it was clear he wanted Orphelia to use it. If he didn't want her to think it wa sa gift he would have given it to her differently. And if Hunter wanted Orphelia to get rid of it, again why did he just give it to her outright and say he found it in the freezer? Why give it to her annoynmously if he didnt want her to use it? You need to go back and replay the chapters because you dont even seem to remember how Orphelia got the dildo or how it went missing.
 
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storm1051787 said:
You need to go back and replay the chapters because you dont even seem to remember how Orphelia got the dildo or how it went missing.
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I know how it went missing and how she got the dildo. It disappeared from the freezer and it somehow got in Ophelia's possession. That's it. That's all we know.

And throwing Eva under the buss doesn't work, since that will mean Brenna won't be allowed to see Eva anymore because she uses her best friend to get out of the "no sex toys" ban.

And might I remind you, the whole point of the game is to stop Hunter's plans? If Hunter straight came out and say he found it, we'd know that he's behind it! We don't know Hunter's plans, so we have a harder time stopping them! That's how the game works! No villain straight up tells you his moves ahead of time!
 
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SuddenReal said:
I know how it went missing and how she got the dildo. It disappeared from the freezer and it somehow got in Ophelia's possession. That's it. That's all we know.

And throwing Eva under the buss doesn't work, since that will mean Brenna won't be allowed to see Eva anymore because she uses her best friend to get out of the "no sex toys" ban.

And might I remind you, the whole point of the game is to stop Hunter's plans? If Hunter straight came out and say he found it, we'd know that he's behind it! We don't know Hunter's plans, so we have a harder time stopping them! That's how the game works! No villain straight up tells you his moves ahead of time!
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I'm not saying Hunter would throw Eva under the bus. I'm saying if Orphelia did ever confront literally anyone about the dildo all the blame would fall on Eva because Brenna would say that it was Eva's missing dildo and Sterling would say it's Eva's missing dildo. Even if Brenna claims it's her dildo how would that get Sterling in trouble? That's why the whole incrimination plan idea doesn't make any sense at all. There are way to many holes in your logic and everything you mention involves the characters acting like idiots.


And no you don't have to remind me, but you seem to have forgotten that everyone just thinks that Hunter is a harmless old man. Saying he found it in the freezer would not incriminate him in anyway because the entire house has access to the freezer. Sterling would have to somehow prove that Hunter has an ulterior motive instead of just having found a loss item in the kitchen.
 
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The scene with the dildo says that the dildo ended up on Ophelia's dresser with a note from "Brenna" asking for amnesty because she felt guilty for buying it and betraying Ophelia's trust, saying in the note as well to throw it out and never mention it.
 
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storm1051787 said:
I'm not saying Hunter would throw Eva under the bus.
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I'm not saying that either. I never mentioned Hunter and Eva in the same sentence.
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I'm saying if Orphelia did ever confront literally anyone about the dildo all the blame would fall on Eva because Brenna would say that it was Eva's missing dildo and Sterling would say it's Eva's missing dildo.
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And that's Brenna throwing Eva under the bus.
 
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SuddenReal said:
I'm not saying that either. I never mentioned Hunter and Eva in the same sentence.

And that's Brenna throwing Eva under the bus.
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Yes and I'm saying if Ophelia ever confronted anyone either Brenna would take the blame or Eva gets in trouble. There is no scenario in which Sterling gets punished for it unless Ophelia just decides to punish both siblings. If Hunter really wanted to indiscriminate Sterling there are easier and smarter ways to make that happen, but it's clear that Hunter wanted Ophelia to use the dildo.
 
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I had forgotten but Hunter actually stole the dildo from Brenna, not from the refrigerator. Brenna had taken it and used it, and later was frantically searching for it (after Hunter presumably stole it).

Now I'm wondering, did Ophelia leave the dildo under her pillow by accident, or did Hunter take it out of Ophelia's dresser and leave it for Sterling to find the next time he was in her bed? :unsure:

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john984 said:
Where can I get that wallpaper!? :cry:
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Getting back to this for a second, considering the fact that it's not on Patreon anymore and can't be put on the Patreons discord, wouldn't it be advisable to go back to the most ancient and most noble purpose of piracy as Data Conservation harkening back since time immemorial and release that Wallpaper here in order to prevent it from becoming "Lost Media" one day?
 
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FoolishFool0 said:
Getting back to this for a second, considering the fact that it's not on Patreon anymore and can't be put on the Patreons discord, wouldn't it be advisable to go back to the most ancient and most noble purpose of piracy as Data Conservation harkening back since time immemorial and release that Wallpaper here in order to prevent it from becoming "Lost Media" one day?
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Since when is What? Why? Games no longer on Patreon?
 
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I have it and was only able to get it through the Patreon email once someone mentioned it on the discord
 
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pinkie96 said:
I have it and was only able to get it through the Patreon email once someone mentioned it on the discord
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When are you gonna share it with us? (if it's not ntr lol). But considering it got removed from patreon I guess it would have been ntr, anyway share it for those who'd be interested in that.
 
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Mr. Chatty said:
When are you gonna share it with us? (if it's not ntr lol). But considering it got removed from patreon I guess it would have been ntr, anyway share it for those who'd be interested in that.
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It is NTR but no reason was given for it being removed so people speculated that it was because of a burnt hanging corpse in the background.

I don't want to share it without the dev's permission because I don't know their stance on it. I'll ask though.
 
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