Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[Taylan13]

Hey lipe2410 I'm going off topic. I see "Futher Education by Kvitravn Tales" in your signature. If you go to his patreon or suscribestar, you can see that he has so little support that I was surprised... To summarize, I'd like to ask you or whoever would like to answer: what is this developer doing wrong to have so little support?

I'm really surprised by the small number of paying subscribers he has, since the quality of the game doesn't seem bad at first glance.

 

[lipe2410]

I can understand your disappointment, I also would've liked to see more Sterling x Ophelia scenes, but I disagree with you about it not making sense story-wise. This is not a story about romance, it's a story about people surrendering to lust and hedonist desires, and doing whatever feels good. Everyone wants to fuck everyone, why would they slow down and only have sex one-on-one? Wouldn't that be sort of selfish against the ones left out?

So how this makes sense story-wise? All denial and barriers Ophelia had towards Sterling simply doesn't exist towards anyone of the other characters because of? Sterling putting his cock inside Ophelia's pussy for the first time simply flip a switch inside her and she instantly has no issue in have sex with the other gilrs?
I'm not talking about romance. We can literally count in one hand the number of Sterling and Ophelia solo scenes before they starting the threesomes, and they are not even long and elaborate scenes. I'm talking about give more scenes to flesh out Sterling/Ophelia new relationship before they jump to threesomes.This could be possible if they didn't start have sex just in chapter 11 out of 13 OR if WWG simply made it more SterlingxOphelia scenes in ch. 12 to payoff the slowburn with Ophelia better but seems his efforts were clearly in another place.

 

[lipe2410]

Hey lipe2410 I'm going off topic. I see "Futher Education by Kvitravn Tales" in your signature. If you go to his patreon or suscribestar, you can see that he has so little support that I was surprised... To summarize, I'd like to ask you or whoever would like to answer: what is this developer doing wrong to have so little support?

I'm really surprised by the small number of paying subscribers he has, since the quality of the game doesn't seem bad at first glance.

Since is OT, i will reply to you in DM

 

[pinkie96]

Thats why I cancelled my subscription, after dev said bad endings are going to cover around 40%-50% of Ch 13

That was a joke made by me. WWG never said this.

SterlingxEileen is literally, if i'm not mistaken, the only scene with Sterling to won a last chance pool. All others were girlxgirl scenes and ntr scenes.

WWG said Sterling would be involved in the girl pairs. That includes

1. Ophelia and Keira
2. Kumiko and Flora (confirmed to include Sterling in teasers)
3. Penny and Catherine
4. Tsukiko and Ophelia (confirmed to include Sterling in teasers)

 

[Fayn Arawn]

So how this makes sense story-wise? All denial and barriers Ophelia had towards Sterling simply doesn't exist towards anyone of the other characters because of? Sterling putting his cock inside Ophelia's pussy for the first time simply flip a switch inside her and she instantly has no issue in have sex with the other gilrs?
I'm not talking about romance. We can literally count in one hand the number of Sterling and Ophelia solo scenes before they starting the threesomes, and they are not even long and elaborate scenes. I'm talking about give more scenes to flesh out Sterling/Ophelia new relationship before they jump to threesomes.This could be possible if they didn't start have sex just in chapter 11 out of 13 OR if WWG simply made it more SterlingxOphelia scenes in ch. 12 to payoff the slowburn with Ophelia better but seems his efforts were clearly in another place.

Again, I also wanted more Ophelia x Sterling scenes. It seems to me they probably had sex a number of times that weren't shown, when they talk about excuses and others suspecting etc. It would've been great to see a couple more of those scenes.

Ophelia already knew Sterling was fucking many other women, and Ophelia herself already had sexual experiences with some of them. Like almost all the women in this game, Ophelia is very open to sex with other women. It's barely an obstacle for her, compared to letting Sterling penetrate her vagina. So yes, fucking Sterling essentially flipped her switch. That was the ultimate taboo to her, and once broken, everything else came naturally and easily.

 

[lipe2410]

That was a joke made by me. WWG never said this.

WWG said Sterling would be involved in the girl pairs. That includes

1. Ophelia and Keira
2. Kumiko and Flora (confirmed to include Sterling in teasers)
3. Penny and Catherine
4. Tsukiko and Ophelia (confirmed to include Sterling in teasers)

Thanks for the info. And even thanks to show this Tsukiko x Ophelia pairing to show a scene between characters that not even interact once in the story untill now is doable but more scenes with characters who interact since ch. 1 (Ophelia and Sterling) is apparently a no-no.

 

[dartred]

Thanks for the info. And even thanks to show this Tsukiko x Ophelia pairing to show a scene between characters that not even interact once in the story untill now is doable but more scenes with characters who interact since ch. 1 (Ophelia and Sterling) is apparently a no-no.

You can't blame WWG for making scenes with characters that never interacted before. Those were suggested and voted for on his patreon. WWG even made a rule that Ophelia, Cath and Brenna could be used multiple times for Last Chance suggestions, unlike every other character.

He gave the community every opportunity to make more Ophelia if they wanted, but the community didn't vote for it. So again, WWG isn't to blame as he let it up to his members to decide what extra scenes we wanted.

 

[lipe2410]

So yes, fucking Sterling essentially flipped her switch. That was the ultimate taboo to her, and once broken, everything else came naturally and easily.

If is this way so:

 

[lipe2410]

You can't blame WWG for making scenes with characters that never interacted before. Those were suggested and voted for on his patreon. WWG even made a rule that Ophelia, Cath and Brenna could be used multiple times for Last Chance suggestions, unlike every other character.

He gave the community every opportunity to make more Ophelia if they wanted, but the community didn't vote for it. So again, WWG isn't to blame as he let it up to his members to decide what extra scenes we wanted.

I don't think the only way to have more scenes with Ophelia and Sterling was by community vote. I think WWG could make more scenes with Ophelia and Sterling if he simply wanted but he didn't it.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

If is this way so:
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Lazy writing? Not really. Try replaying the game and paying closer attention to the other storylines, and you'll notice all the setup and foreshadowing to bring Ophelia to her current state. I don't know where you get the idea that she should want Sterling all to herself, or that she isn't into women. Ophelia is my favorite character (obviously), but I can view the story objectively and not just through the lense of my own fantasy. I've replayed this game several times and I'm telling you the writer put in the work.

Edit: I find it ironic that your meme about lazy writing has too many periods in the middle of the sentence, and too few periods at the end.

 

[lipe2410]

I don't know where you get the idea that she should want Sterling all to herself, or that she isn't into women

You don't get it because this was never my idea in the first place. I never said she should wanted Sterling to herself only or are not into women. My only idea was have more sex scenes between Ophelia and Sterling before the threesomes started instead to rush directly to that as he did because the game was so close to the end and the better explanation story-wise (apparently) to that is "Sterling's dick flip switch in her and now she has no restrains towards sex with anyone".

 

[Fayn Arawn]

My only idea was have more sex scenes between Ophelia and Sterling before the threesomes started

But Ophelia/Sterling/Aliza already had two threesomes before Ophelia had vaginal sex with Sterling. Expecting Ophelia to slow down after that is like closing the barn door after the horse already got out, as they say.

 

[NTR4Lyfe]

I think we need to have Sterling be killed off by Ophelia so that she can finally live a happy life with Hunter who she really loves. That will be the good ending. Why can't Sterling just let his family be happy?

 

[Only1P]

Which kinda suchs imho since he barely start fuck Ophelia for real and not the game will already end but also all the remain SterlingxOphelia scenes will be group sex scenes. I lost a lot of faith in this game and in WWG after become clear how little content SterlingxOphelia will get in the end after a extremely long slowburn with her. It's literally: take fucking years for them fuck for the first but then after the first fuck simply rush all the releationship and already put them have 3-somes/4-somes/orgies with everyone else in a lightspeed. It's not good and not even makes sense story-wise but since they only start have sex literally in the third last chapter all the flesh out of their new relationship must be discharged to rush right to group sex.
Hell, even NLT whose all games end in a big ass orgy has the care and attention to give to their characters a fair number of solo scenes with the MC before reach that stage.

I get you, to be fair this ends up being a problem in like 99.99% of those games, we just saw this happen in Midnight Paradise, I also thought PV was going to handle it differently, particulary because we got so much of this pair in ch 11 so I thought its to set up a standard in which they will keep having a lot of scenes together in following chapters, turns out it was to compensate for the lack of content theyll get in subsequent releases xD.

It had promise tho for sure, but it failed like any other game in this subgenre, so I understand your disappointment and relate to it, we gotta make do with what we got tho, which is not as plentiful as we wouldve expected but hey its still better than nothing.

 

[DD69-1]

I don't think the only way to have more scenes with Ophelia and Sterling was by community vote. I think WWG could make more scenes with Ophelia and Sterling if he simply wanted but he didn't it.

that's what I said after chapter 12, but I'm not sure whether solo scenes are planned out or not between Ophelia and Sterling because I would like to see those as I mentioned earlier, again since these things are cannon events WWG could've shown them, but he masked them as a dialogue a context was created that Ophelia and Sterling were banging a lot, but the vanilla fans fans never got to see it.

So I have my eyes out for Chapter 13, seeing if there is any solo scenes with Ophelia, honestly I doubt there would be. The only option here is in character endings with Ophelia wherein they can have multiple solo scenes which the vanilla fans really wanted to see it, but if he decides to club Ophelia's character ending with others then he's doing it on purpose and he wants to move to the next game, hopefully I'm wrong, but to cover your point... yes they skipped out solo scenes with Ophelia, which would've been great to see and was a disservice to the vanilla fans.

 

[SuddenReal]

SterlingxEileen is literally, if i'm not mistaken, the only scene with Sterling to won a last chance pool. All others were girlxgirl scenes and ntr scenes. Turn this unique scene in another bad end leading to ntr in chapter already full of bad ends/ntr scenes will be simply a fucked up asshole move to all non-ntr players who wanted see a scene with Eileen.

Who said it's NTR? This could be the first bad ending that's not NTR related.

 

[Xthera1]

Will the upcoming update be the final one?

 

[JabyShrek988]

Will the upcoming update be the final one?

Final Chapter? Yes!
Final Update? No! There will be epilogue episodes with each and every characters.

 

[JabyShrek988]

I don't think the only way to have more scenes with Ophelia and Sterling was by community vote. I think WWG could make more scenes with Ophelia and Sterling if he simply wanted but he didn't it.

I do remember him saying that to someone on patreon. Back in 2023, he asked that person to not worry as there will be more scenes between MC and Ophelia than Ophelia's NTR scenes.

 

[Boobaassloving]

does chapter 12 official version doesn't have an android version?