Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

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Skode

Skode

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Sinopsiso said:
Hm. Actually now that we talking about money. I think Dev should increase minimal pledge from 1$ to 2$ per month.
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After announcing a break? erm... no, that would be unwise, pausing payments or not. Honestly i respect the guy for doing this - hes been straight up and saying hes taking a month off, too many push on and end up caving in and walking away. Its not an illness issue, he just wants to take some time out and given the next update is most part complete sans rewrites and what have you its not like the next update wont come as promised in December and more teasers will come tomorrow so good luck to him and December will be extra great as far as im concerned with an update for the game appearing then. From most all comments ive seen everyone is perfectly happy and on board with him taking a break... though the one concern i have is his questioning continuing approach to humour vs more focus on the sex content. The poll is very heavily leaning to remaining comedy heavy but him questioning this shows why he needs a break, when your having fun its much easier to be funny. Anyone can just shoe horn loads of sex scenes in a VN for easy coinage but his is distinct based on the humour, characterisation of the cast and on going soap opera esc vision he has crafted for us so far with the game. Long may this continue and if that means the odd break then so be it, even if he didnt pause the payments id still advocate he take this break he clearly needs and desires.
 
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The Daydreamer

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Well, first thing I do next sunday is increasing my pledge! He's gonna get my money either he wants it or not! :p


More seriously, I support his decision one hundred per cent! The reason I love Power Vacuum so much is thanks to his top notch writing so if the dev wants to take some time off to find his inspiration in order to keep the good old banters coming, I can only be understanding. Just don't forget "perfect is the enemy of good" so don't go crazy second guessing yourself too much. Even if a joke falls flat it won't be the end of the world ;) And if you need any reassurance, I'm sure there are plenty of people on your Discord channel who would be willing to lend you a pair of eyes if you ever need a second opinion on things :giggle:


Now about the poll, I've answered "The comedy writing is as important as the erotic content" but I'd like to comment on that. The comedic aspect is really great but what really matters to me is the quality of the writing, the character's development and the way the dialogues flow (this part makes me think of Aaron Sorkin (y)) so if one day you want to write in a different genre, I'd be more than happy to read it! In fact, I'd be curious to see you writing some drama... I think it's a lot easier to make someone cry through a novel rather than laugh so we would probably need even more tissues than usual playing your game! :ROFLMAO:


What? Why? Games said:
An adult visual novel written like a sitcom was an interesting concept, but I think this is the wrong medium. Most people don't look at these games as adult visual novels. They look at them as porn games. And porn games don't need wordplay, characterization, or proper use of any literary device.
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I don't know about that. If people are in it just for the porn, why even bother with the VN format to begin with? I, for one, wouldn't be interesting in a sexy slideshow with shitty writing but maybe that's just me.
Give more credit to your audience! :p I'm really glad Power Vacuum is an adult VN and not just another porn game...^^

What? Why? Games said:
Part of the problem could be that a considerable amount of people that play VNs aren't from the USA and presumably know English as a second language. Comedy is the hardest thing to translate and there's just no way the numerous people messaging me things like "Why Hunter no sex lady?" are going to appreciate the joke I'm writing about a commercial from forty years ago.
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I also had these thoughts about your game. I'm pretty confident in my level in English despite the fact that it isn't my native language but I actually need to pause playing Power Vacuum from time to time to look up references and such. I never need to do that when I'm watching a TV series or reading a novel so that's kinda crazy that an adult VN is more "culturally challenging" but I don't mind that. Nevertheless it's probably true some people are like "WTF is he saying?" while playing your game and get frustrated. In this case, maybe they stop paying attention to the dialogues and just wait for the next sexy scene which is a bummer since they miss the core content that make this game a gem.

By the way, since the characters are so young, why are they even talking about an old commercial from the 80's? :LOL: I live in France so the american culture is deeply embedded here but a reference to an old american ad from before I was even born, there is no chance that I get the joke! But the real question is, do american youngsters can even get that joke? ^^
Anyway, I would never suggest to dumb it down a little (that would be sacrilege! :devilish:) but more modern references could go a long way (with the Internet, the american culture is now spread worldwide so I think you would have more chance to get your point across that way but forget what I say if that would be less enjoyable for you... ;)).
 
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Milflover68

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First of all mad respect for the dev for his honesty and work ethics. Although I personally think stopping the pledge for November was unnecessary. Now the comedy and cultural difference part. I think cultural difference is not the problem here, I am not a english speaker but I got most of the references. But I will agree that in the sexual parts comedy writing feels little bit mood killer. For Example Ophelia Bathroom scenes with mc in those scenes Ophelia was helping mc to get a boner but they were constantly talking about random offtopic things. In my opinion if that particular conversation was little bit more sexual and on topic the scene would have been more erotic and fitting for the situation.
 
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Skode said:
After announcing a break? erm... no, that would be unwise
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Well, duh. Not now i mean. After the update, maybe in next year.
Like he said, last updates are clearly step forward in graphic and it always had good writing. Its clearly not the first version and deserves better.
 
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3D Novelist

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I cannot find the Discord link to report the bug I found, so i will do it here. Maybe the Dev sees it:
After every animation you can see, for a brief moment, a privious render of the dialogue, before the next render appears.
Thats annoying. I checked the code and found the problem and also how to solve it:
E.g.
A scene is active, then at first the animation is started, then comes some dialogue and afterwards the animation is hidden and a new scene (image) is called:
Code: 
scene evac1

... (dialogue)
image evadog1 = Movie(channel="ani/Evadog1.mp4", play="ani/Evadog1.mp4", size=(1920,1080))

show evadog1

... (dialogue)

hide evadog1

scene evac4

The problem is that the animation is first hidden and then the next image is called. In between you can see the privious render (the last render before the animation) for a short moment.
This can easily be fixed by switching the animation hiding and calling of a new image:
Code: 
scene evac4

hide evadog1
 
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Dhoulcmagus

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Not a patron here, so I'm not sure if I have any rights to say anything. However, regarding the language and the sophisticated comedy... English isn't my native language, but I think I still get most of the jokes, and I don't mind not getting a few of them, when the others are really good. So I'd say... Just write they way you feel most comfortable (and satisfied) with. And if some people don't get all of the jokes, so be it.
 
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catherine teasers!


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In the next update, our MC agrees to face the risk and continue with Catherine's sexual education
 
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