Stil996

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You have been playing it wrong, because every scene in a story line is different with different dialogue. All you have to do is stay in your room, check the helperbot for the next event, skip to that time, go to the room and bam, new scene. Rinse, repeat, enjoy the VN.
I disagree that that's playing anything!
IMO These kind of stories should be discovered through choices or played liked movies. This follow the instructions from a cheat sheet feels like the worst combination of both worlds.
 

storm1051787

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I disagree that that's playing anything!
IMO These kind of stories should be discovered through choices or played liked movies. This follow the instructions from a cheat sheet feels like the worst combination of both worlds.
It's already listed as a kinetic novel, which means there arent a ton of choices that effect the plot really to begin with. I don't really see looking at what time an event starts as a cheat sheet.
 
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Skargaroth

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The only thing I have to say so far in playing this is the bit where the family members are playing backgammon and they're talking about it being Monopoly = whut
 

Grey Wolf 73

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Man that was Hot! But keeping hoping for something with the mother for once. Especially now i want kevin and hunter to fuck the shit out of her since she was laughing about it.
Yea, I (along with the majority of those who play this VN) want to see Ophelia get smashed, but it will have to be in the main story before it's done in a 'What If' setting. In every VN, there is that one character they keep as a tease until the end...

...But I look forward to both.
 

Stil996

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It's already listed as a kinetic novel, which means there arent a ton of choices that effect the plot really to begin with. I don't really see looking at what time an event starts as a cheat sheet.
yeah and a kinetic novel moves forward without you having to use a cheatsheet to find the next stage. This is what I mean when I say it is neither one nor the other.
 

Kaeris

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So from someone who didn't participate in the lore of the game dev since around 16ish month's ago give or take, last update i played ended in the part that the older sister punched the old man, has the story progressed much from there to warrant a replay or should i wait for it to be done?
 

preskerd

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I love this game. It's one of the best harem games in the scene and The dev literally found the best way possible put 'optional ntr' into his game. NTR doesn't fuck up the main story at all. I disslike NTR a lot but I can recommend this game to even most anti-ntr person because of the system the dev has. Also I don't know what some people are smoking when they call mc cuck. MC is buffed as hell handsome dude with a giant dick while antogonists are a old disgusting dude(which probably will die from old age soon anyways) and an extremely obese anti social guy. Like NTR in this game mostly comedic purpose anyways

But I have a question. Why all of the What if's except one are NTR minigames? Like shouldn't what ifs contains variety of contents? Or dev creates what ifs for people who likes NTR only?
 
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Kingkoopa97

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I love this game. It's one of the best harem games in the scene and The dev literally found the best way possible put 'optional ntr' into his game. NTR doesn't fuck up the main story at all. I disslike NTR a lot but I can recommend this game to even most anti-ntr person because of the system the dev has. Also I don't know what some people are smoking when they call mc cuck. MC is buffed as hell handsome dude with a giant dick while antogonists are a old disgusting dude(which probably will die from old age soon anyways) and an extremely obese anti social guy. Like NTR in this game mostly comedic purpose anyways

But I have a question. Why all of the What if's except one are NTR minigames? Like shouldn't what ifs contains variety of contents? Or dev creates what ifs for people who likes NTR only?
They could be all Vanilla if enough vanilla fans supported at top tier. It's just patrons suggesting ideas whatever gets the most likes gets put into a Vote with 2 other suggestions WWG likes the best and we vote on it.
 

Heavy Sleeper

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The NTR lovers are the main people paying for the power to submit and vote in the polls. Apparently a lot of the "vanilla" lovers saw the first couple of NTR scenes and never wanted to pay for the game, and now that the NTR fans allowing the dev to actually make the game everyone here enjoy, you all still hating on him. As by the dev own admission, the group of people who pay 20+ paying for his mortgage so he gives them extra content between the long waits.
 

kark

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Its true that doing "what if" takes time but it has some advantages:

-Its faster: You dont need to code too much as its actually more like a comic than a game, for a programmer view point, it can take so much time to code AND fix all the bugs. If anyone has doing a game before or a program, they will know this could be a reason enough.
-Easier to deal with lore: Yeah, if you want some consistency in the story, you cant just add whatever you want so this is a way to dont waste time making a reason to something special happens.

In general: Yes, it takes some time that he could be doing for the main game instead but doing a "what if" is way easier, i cant know how much easier, only the dev knows but i dare to say its worth.
 

hoobastank404

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Look, I'm not a huge fan of NTR either, but it's a really simple solution for those that are so up-in-arms:

The What Ifs are an alternate universe, but in each one, you are still the MC. Sometimes that MC is Hunter, once it was the OG MC, but this time it was Kevin. Just enjoy the high quality work being put out, crank off, and stop droning on about the free porn you're getting.
 
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FunFuntomes

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ok... spotted an inconsistency in vol 5. if the events take place after Kevin was punched by Catherine, then Aliza shouldn't be a virgin, considering that at one point of the what if, both Aliza and Amber think Sterling is attractive.

also Amber's dancing animations... why can't the main game have good stuff like that?
 

Kingkoopa97

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ok... spotted an inconsistency in vol 5. if the events take place after Kevin was punched by Catherine, then Aliza shouldn't be a virgin, considering that at one point of the what if, both Aliza and Amber think Sterling is attractive.

also Amber's dancing animations... why can't the main game have good stuff like that?
Aliza is still a virgin as of chapter nine. If Im not wrong the amber animation is a stock animation while all animations in main game are handmade.
 

storm1051787

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This thread has some of the most entitled people i've ever seen. Not even just about the ntr stuff but about the way some of the character arcs are going. I hate NTR, but I dont understand bitching and moaning about it. Some people like it and they are paying for the game so we have the what ifs. It's not like the development of the main game has completely stopped and the few ntr scenes that are in the main game are compeltely avoidable in the first place. If you arent a patron you honestly dont have the right to complain about the what ifs because they arent meant for you. You are just ruining other people's enjoyment.
 

bigguy_foryou

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The NTR lovers are the main people paying for the power to submit and vote in the polls. Apparently a lot of the "vanilla" lovers saw the first couple of NTR scenes and never wanted to pay for the game, and now that the NTR fans allowing the dev to actually make the game everyone here enjoy, you all still hating on him. As by the dev own admission, the group of people who pay 20+ paying for his mortgage so he gives them extra content between the long waits.
Big agree. I absolutely HATE NTR, but those supporters are what has allowed the developer to continue developing the main story at all, and the NTR is for the most part kept out of it despite that. If these existing (at apparently no cost to the main story) is a consequence of that then I can live with that.
 
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Aurochs

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I love this game. It's one of the best harem games in the scene and The dev literally found the best way possible put 'optional ntr' into his game. NTR doesn't fuck up the main story at all. I disslike NTR a lot but I can recommend this game to even most anti-ntr person because of the system the dev has. Also I don't know what some people are smoking when they call mc cuck. MC is buffed as hell handsome dude with a giant dick while antogonists are a old disgusting dude(which probably will die from old age soon anyways) and an extremely obese anti social guy. Like NTR in this game mostly comedic purpose anyways
Fully agreed. As someone that doesn't list NTR as one of their kinks, but also doesn't break out into hives for it simply existing in my field of view, the way NTR is handled in the mainline game is the best it can be done in my opinion. It's entirely optional just like in a lot of games, but the thing that makes it top notch is the ability to absolutely, brutally, hilariously shut down the rival's attempts. Ol' Mr. Liverspots is the BEST PART of this game (besides all the other... uh... "parts") and the die-hard anti-NTR people that skip out on this game simply because of that silly little tag are missing out in a huge way.

No other game has got me so invested in the girls because here there are STAKES, and as the player I get to watch Mega-Chad MC stave off the predatory advances of that geriatric sleezeball time and again. Wouldn't give nearly as much of a damn if he (and the threat of NTR) just didn't exist to begin with.


As for the "What-If's", not made for me. That's not new and I don't lose sleep over it even as a patron, as most things on this earth are, in fact, not made for me. Someone (plenty of someone's, even) will enjoy them, dev is getting paid, so it isn't as if the effort is being wasted.
 

Pif paf

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Guys, could u pls remove the obsolete nopy links? they're dead right now and won't be back, looking at their message
 
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