Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[Fayn Arawn]

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“We shall abolish the orgasm. Our neurologists are at work upon it now.” ― George Orwell, 1984.

PayPal and Patreon aren't going that far, but I agree with Lukec7 that exploring taboos in fiction is fine, and certainly preferable to exploring some of those taboos in real life. Their censorship is based on their trying to conform to an antiquated perception of morality in order to maintain market share, and not an Orwellian desire for power for its own sake.

 

[tydog99]

I just can't believe how controlled we are getting, in this instance through Patreon for a few controversial tags but in a fucking fictional game I mean Holy Shit, we started getting told we can't use our imagination anymore or to a full extent. Are they trying to prevent those tags to move to real life by some psycho(s) or what because let me tell you, they're (gonna) happen(ing)) regardless. And to take away the power to flesh out unique game(s) like this to it's full potential really pisses me of. I mean I'm sure I'm not the only one visiting this site because of the unique tags and occasionally stories not some boring vanilla you can experience IRL. I just can't wrap my head around the fact they started or are trying to control our fucking IMAGINATIONS.

Jesus, you aren't being "controlled". It's their platform. They can do what they want. That's like thinking you have free speech in America to just post whatever dumb shit you want on a privately owned website like social media. If you don't like how Patreon does things and don't want to follow what they allow on their platform, you can find another platform to sell your product.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

Jesus, you aren't being "controlled". It's their platform. They can do what they want. That's like thinking you have free speech in America to just post whatever dumb shit you want on a privately owned website like social media. If you don't like how Patreon does things and don't want to follow what they allow on their platform, you can find another platform to sell your product.

I agree it's not about control, but Lukec7 brings up a pertinent debate: whether sexual entertainment reduces or increases real life sexual abuse. This is relevant because it points to the reasoning behind the censorship: that sexual entertainment will inspire its audience to commit sexual abuse in real life.

I'm of the opinion sexual entertainment actually reduces sexual abuse, because some use the entertainment as an alternative.

 

[Ranma]

I agree it's not about control, but Lukec7 brings up a pertinent debate: whether sexual entertainment reduces or increases real life sexual abuse. This is relevant because it points to the reasoning behind the censorship: that sexual entertainment will inspire its audience to commit sexual abuse in real life.

I'm of the opinion sexual entertainment actually reduces sexual abuse, because some use the entertainment as an alternative.

The same way that violence in video-games doesn't directly correlate to violence in real life like many politicians would want you to believe, but they still double and triple down on it, no matter how many times their point has been proven wrong, time and time again.

 

[Deleted member 4453899]

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In 2022 1984 is more of a user manual.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

There was a Power Vacuum reference in the Shut Up And Dance update:

 

[dartred]

Ha, funny thing about that. The dev to SUAD contacted me on discord asking me if he can use Hunter for his game. He thought i was the dev for PV lol. So I take it he got the proper permissions.

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[Lukec7]

My god, get bent on a badly picked word. I didn't mean it literally, guess only Fayn got my main point. I still think tho regardless of what you're doing (in this case a fictional 3dcg game) as long as it's fiction there shouldn't be any limits. My opinion.

And thanks for the book recommendation.

 

[Taz423]

So I presume the next chapter wont come in the near future?

 

[Dodoo92]

It would have been already here (actually update was planned for end of may) if people didnt report the game and whatifs on Patreon, so the dev has to go through the game and change some dialogue and whatnot, so we have to wait a bit more

 

[lipe2410]

Any update about patreon situation? WWG is still editing the game or already sent to patreon and now is waiting for the feedback?

 

[dartred]

no word yet if it's turned in. I'm sure we'll know by today or tomorrow.

 

[OmegaZero21]

It would have been already here (actually update was planned for end of may) if people didnt report the game and whatifs on Patreon, so the dev has to go through the game and change some dialogue and whatnot, so we have to wait a bit more

Try a decent amount of dialogue and possibly some events anything having to do possible incest and forced sexual content. In other words pretty much Hunter's whole character.

 

[Doctorshemp]

I don't get it. Does Patreon pay that much money that WWG doesn't consider switching to other platforms or is it something else that stops him from doing so?

 

[Stil996]

I've asked before and I'll ask again, why can't he dual platform? that way if Patreon pulls the rug from under him he doesn't lose everything, some of us prefer not to support organisations like Patreon.

 

[dartred]

His reasoning before was that he had SS at the start and nobody used it. Everyone would get the game on Patreon. So he disabled his SS. The reason now is because his next game will be Vanilla and it would make sense on Patreon, since it won't need to hide anything that would need SS. So he is toughing it out and doing what Patreon is asking him too.

 

[hbppppah]

but he already has a vanilla version of the game. couldnt he just turn off the NTR part on the patreon release and make an NTR patch or something? I think the bigger Problem is the Sis Mom slip here and there

 

[Maestro91]

but he already has a vanilla version of the game. couldnt he just turn off the NTR part on the patreon release and make an NTR patch or something? I think the bigger Problem is the Sis Mom slip here and there

I think that is the plan, but even supposed "implications" about incest has to go according to patreon. Phrases like "you're like family to me" and "like a sister" has to go too.

 

[OmegaZero21]

I think that is the plan, but even supposed "implications" about incest has to go according to patreon. Phrases like "you're like family to me" and "like a sister" has to go too.

That's so much bull you could start your own fertilizer business. Next it'll be step siblings or being adopted. Hell how much longer until they come after "landlord" and "tenant"

 

[yourmomma]

These games are gonna get so boring now. This isn't the first one that's under review and had to change its content to please Patreon. Shit is definitely getting reported by squares.