Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[DD69-1]

Whatever happened to freedom of speech and the freedom of creating your own thing?!

you have freedom to do anything lol, unless you're doing anything & everything on your own separate platform, patreon platform has been tied down because of Paypal... SS is an option but many people, including me use Paypal which SS doesn't have, so adding bank accounts there is...

 

[Hermit76]

I think leaving Patreon is the only plausible solution. I mean, Hunter is the villain of the story. What exactly do they expect what he is doing? Drinking camomile tea, collecting flowers and helping old ladies across the street the whole day?

 

[dartred]

Them asking to remove Hunter is an example i thought of that would be a big enough reason to make him move to SS. It's not something they actually requested as far as i know.

 

[SuddenReal]

Whatever happened to freedom of speech and the freedom of creating your own thing?!

Doesn't mean I can do whatever I want in your house. Your house, your rules. Or in this case, Patreon's house.

 

[TrueJackal]

Thanks for replay but until now Sterling is really thin and skinny to small while Brenna making the due proportions is fat and tall compared to him ... physical proportions are important during viewing and give us an immediate idea of the models and their relationship.
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all women have unrealistic proportions ... I hope the story becomes interesting because for now the game does not push me to continue... indeed I forget to open it because I do not see anything intriguing or interesting.
Basically actually I have to force myself to continue playing. I'll try and then I'll let you know.

Thanks

Even in that photo I don't think Brenna is fat. Also the models get better over time.

 

[Deleted member 4887608]

I think it good on them to go after artists those who haven't produced any work for 3-4 months, it would keep the leeches in check & would provide better experience.

 

[SuddenReal]

I think it good on them to go after artists those who haven't produced any work for 3-4 months, it would keep the leeches in check & would provide better experience.

Exactly, this stops one man developpers from bringing quality material out, but instead of top quality animations just release stills with a mediocre story, just to get that 4 month deadline.

If there's one thing you can't accuse WWG of, it's leeching. Try again.

 

[dartred]

I think it good on them to go after artists those who haven't produced any work for 3-4 months, it would keep the leeches in check & would provide better experience.

except this dev proves he is working on the game by releasing 4-6 new teasers every 10 days to show his work. How many devs do that? i know a few that just show 1 image when they feel like it and some who just post status updates. The amount he shows every 10 days is above and beyond what many devs do. We've also never had a delay outside of 1 chapter where he rewrote it before release because he himself didn't like how it was coming out and didn't want to release garbage. That's a dev that genuinely cares about his game.

 

[Omegablade21]

Doesn't mean I can do whatever I want in your house. Your house, your rules. Or in this case, Patreon's house.

Except with Patreon it's more along the lines of this.

 

[Deleted member 4887608]

except this dev proves he is working on the game by releasing 4-6 new teasers every 10 days to show his work. How many devs do that? i know a few that just show 1 image when they feel like it and some who just post status updates. The amount he shows every 10 days is above and beyond what many devs do. We've also never had a delay outside of 1 chapter where he rewrote it before release because he himself didn't like how it was coming out and didn't want to release garbage. That's a dev that genuinely cares about his game.

I am aware of that & I wasn't referencing about WWG it was more of a general trend what is observed in adult game community & I also know that since he has to cater to two different audience it's gonna take time. Personally I would rather like two smaller size update in 3 months than a big one in 6 months as I won't feel disconnected to the story when I continue which happens when game goes dormant for 3 months+

 

[SuddenReal]

Except with Patreon it's more along the lines of this.

So what? If you allow dogs at your house, and I come over with my dog and he shits all over your carpet, aren't you going to change that rule? It's their perogative.

None of their rules are set in stone, except the one that allows them to change the rules, and guess what, every contract has that.

 

[TrueJackal]

I think it good on them to go after artists those who haven't produced any work for 3-4 months, it would keep the leeches in check & would provide better experience.

1) Even if I agreed with you, that wouldn't apply here. There's a massive difference between being a leech and taking time to do a big project.

Your impatience doesn't make him a leech.

2) I don't think it's worth going after inactive devs at the cost of punishing devs like this who are putting in a consistent effort to put out quality work.

If you don't like his upload rate, that's fine. Just don't pay him on patreon. Let people who want to support him, do so.

3) Understand that just because he doesn't upload every month doesn't mean he's lazy. Teasers are a great way to show supporters that he's working while drumming up hype and getting more support. It honestly should be standard for most devs given that it lets people see progress in action.

If you want quality animations, renders, and writing from one man, then it's gonna take time. Lot's of time.

The only you can get something faster is to sacrifice one of those. The teasers are a great compromise.

 

[storm1051787]

I can't tell if you're asking sarcastically or honestly, but yes, they "never happen" in the sense that they're outside the "real story." Even calling them "What Ifs" is most likely a reference to Marvel Comics' classic What If stories, which also "never happened."

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Kind of a stretch. The concept of what ifs in literature have been around forever and marvels not the only one to call it what ifs.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

Kind of a stretch. The concept of what ifs in literature have been around forever and marvels not the only one to call it what ifs.

Well I never said Marvel invented the trope. WWG could've been referencing Asimov's story. It could even be coincidence.

Marvel's What If animated show debuted back in August, same month as What If #1 for PV, and it's not unreasonable to think WWG was aware of the show's existence, given how in tune he appears to be with pop culture.

But I was only speculating (hence my use of "most likely").

 

[yourmomma]

At this point I'm not even sure why Devs keep using Patreon. This is one of those sleeper games I was on the fence about until later on and now it's one of my top five favorites. I'd hate to see him dull his creative license just to please Patreon.

 

[storm1051787]

At this point I'm not even sure why Devs keep using Patreon. This is one of those sleeper games I was on the fence about until later on and now it's one of my top five favorites. I'd hate to see him dull his creative license just to please Patreon.

Cause most people are already on patreon. Even a lot of the devs I know that are on SS typically have a SS and a patreon account.

 

[defd©™]

I'm on Ch4 now and I must say that there are a lot of fanny events... I hope will get better in future.
About the time required between the next update I really do not complain.
Every artist has different priority
I like devs that are able to write a good story line with great and Interesting progression.
render and animation quality are not so important for me because more animaion quality mean slow updates.

when this happens like in this game I always wait before play until a good amount of contents has been released I also totally avoid demo-games for the same reason.

 

[NachoAndCheez]

Yeah, some of us on the discord were surprised when we heard. They took 4 months to give WWG a response, then they contact WWG and tell him he has 2 weeks to turn in the product for a review. How is that fair?


Who knows what happens if he doesn't turn in. He probably has his patreon turned off (not deleted) until he turns it in? Though deactivation is a possibility. They don't want to get in trouble in the first place and it's in their right to deactivate someone who breaks their rules (as BS as their rules are).

All of this is BS truly but atleast I now know that if by the beguining of June the page is still up and running then the ball is 100% on patreon's court.

 

[Lukec7]

I just can't believe how controlled we are getting, in this instance through Patreon for a few controversial tags but in a fucking fictional game I mean Holy Shit, we started getting told we can't use our imagination anymore or to a full extent. Are they trying to prevent those tags to move to real life by some psycho(s) or what because let me tell you, they're (gonna) happen(ing)) regardless. And to take away the power to flesh out unique game(s) like this to it's full potential really pisses me of. I mean I'm sure I'm not the only one visiting this site because of the unique tags and occasionally stories not some boring vanilla you can experience IRL. I just can't wrap my head around the fact they started or are trying to control our fucking IMAGINATIONS.

 

[Ranma]

I just can't believe how controlled we are getting, in this instance through Patreon for a few controversial tags but in a fucking fictional game I mean Holy Shit, we started getting told we can't use our imagination anymore or to a full extent. Are they trying to prevent those tags to move to real life by some psycho(s) or what because let me tell you, they're (gonna) happen(ing)) regardless. And to take away the power to flesh out unique game(s) like this to it's full potential really pisses me of. I mean I'm sure I'm not the only one visiting this site because of the unique tags and occasionally stories not some boring vanilla you can experience IRL. I just can't wrap my head around the fact they started or are trying to control our fucking IMAGINATIONS.