Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[KovskyAnker]

The problem is that Patreon lets payment service providers or credit card companies dictate "their own rules".

Without payment processors patreon is dead. So they have to

 

[PRINCE2126]

So let me get this straight the what ifs are dreams or fantasy's that never happen ?

 

[Fayn Arawn]

So let me get this straight the what ifs are dreams or fantasy's that never happen ?

I can't tell if you're asking sarcastically or honestly, but yes, they "never happen" in the sense that they're outside the "real story." Even calling them "What Ifs" is most likely a reference to Marvel Comics' classic What If stories, which also "never happened."

 

[PRINCE2126]

I can't tell if you're asking sarcastically or honestly, but yes, they "never happen" in the sense that they're outside the "real story." Even calling them "What Ifs" is most likely a reference to Marvel Comics' classic What If stories, which also "never happened."

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No I wasn't being sarcastic. This game was recommended to me and the user didnt till me there was NTR and yes I read the dev notes and such I just wanted to make sure before I play. Some games have Optional but reality is they arnt optional but just skippable meaning it happens but you skip the scene or they make it Optional for some parts and unavoidable in other parts which has made me paranoid with the optional NTR games so I have to ask to be reassured. Anyways thank you for the response have a good day

 

[SuddenReal]

Some games have Optional but reality is they arnt optional but just skippable meaning it happens but you skip the scene or they make it Optional for some parts and unavoidable in other parts which has made me paranoid with the optional NTR games so I have to ask to be reassured.

The What Ifs aren't part of the main game. If you play the main game (and you don't have NTR switched off), you'll be presented by a choice at some point. If you make the right choice, the story continues, but if you pick the wrong choice, there's an NTR scene and you'll be brought back to the choice, so you can continue the story. With NTR switched off, you don't even get a choice, the story just continues. So, basically, there's no NTR in the storyline (just in the wrong choices that brings a temporary "game over").

 

[PRINCE2126]

The What Ifs aren't part of the main game. If you play the main game (and you don't have NTR switched off), you'll be presented by a choice at some point. If you make the right choice, the story continues, but if you pick the wrong choice, there's an NTR scene and you'll be brought back to the choice, so you can continue the story. With NTR switched off, you don't even get a choice, the story just continues. So, basically, there's no NTR in the storyline (just in the wrong choices that brings a temporary "game over").

Ok thats reasonable. Some games ive played before added the switch mechanism and had the choice options as well then after some time the only way to avoid NTR was by turning on the Switch which just skipped the Scene or manipulated the same scene to display the MC I consider that being a bad developer and its also the reason why so many people are paranoid with some games but I can get behind this game if it is as you guys have described to me. thank you

 

[Omegablade21]

The problem is that Patreon lets payment service providers or credit card companies dictate "their own rules".
The perversity of this is that it doesn't matter at all on other platforms and the same companies handle the payments.

The problem stems from the fact that Patreon uses PayPal for it's transaction so they let PayPal control what's allowed on the Site. Other sites use other forms of payment options so there's no issues

 

[Graag]

Bottom line is: Patreon exists to help fund stuff. To make that easier. NOTHING MORE.
But a while ago they decided that power needs to be abused. So now they dictate their users on what they should create. That's a 100% power abuse. The internet should have vomited them out at that point but as usual weakness prevailed. And now Patreon has a taste for it and will only ever keep dictating and abusing. Stuff like this never gets better, only worse.
Getting rid of Patreon will be the only choice left for many at some future point.

 

[Omegablade21]

Bottom line is: Patreon exists to help fund stuff. To make that easier. NOTHING MORE.
But a while ago they decided that power needs to be abused. So now they dictate their users on what they should create. That's a 100% power abuse. The internet should have vomited them out at that point but as usual weakness prevailed. And now Patreon has a taste for it and will only ever keep dictating and abusing. Stuff like this never gets better, only worse.
Getting rid of Patreon will be the only choice left for many at some future point.

That point has pretty much already passed and no one did anything. Patreon seems to think themselves as a Law Enforcement agency basically anything illegal in real life is not allowed to be in any content people create. if we think about it in that sense the following content will either be banned or is already banned: Slavery, Blackmail, Underage, Incest, Rape, Bestiality, Drug use, Violence, Necrophilia, Prostitution, and Sexual Harassment. Corruption and Mind Control might be banned or is already banned.

 

[storm1051787]

Bottom line is: Patreon exists to help fund stuff. To make that easier. NOTHING MORE.
But a while ago they decided that power needs to be abused. So now they dictate their users on what they should create. That's a 100% power abuse. The internet should have vomited them out at that point but as usual weakness prevailed. And now Patreon has a taste for it and will only ever keep dictating and abusing. Stuff like this never gets better, only worse.
Getting rid of Patreon will be the only choice left for many at some future point.

It's not as simple as that. Patreon exists to make things easier, but they also can't allow anything illegal on the site to remain up. A lot of sites with porn ended up having that same crackdown or a similar one because someone uploaded some ** and no company wants to take any risks like that. I don't agree with patreon, but this is less of patreon abusing their powers and more that they are going to extreme lengths to prevent anything that could be considered illegal from being on that site, which was the actual reason for the incest ban in the first place. Obviously pretty much everything Hunter does would be illegal in real life, but Patreon can't really seem to separate fiction from reality. Or they just don't want to take the risk. Not really much you can do besides migrate to a different site.

 

[Mafaka666]

We could have a game by now
Oh ma layf

 

[defd©™]

I dont want to spoil anything but MC got taller and Hunter its Ophelia dad, and soon u will see the interesting parts.

Thanks for replay but until now Sterling is really thin and skinny to small while Brenna making the due proportions is fat and tall compared to him ... physical proportions are important during viewing and give us an immediate idea of the models and their relationship.


all women have unrealistic proportions ... I hope the story becomes interesting because for now the game does not push me to continue... indeed I forget to open it because I do not see anything intriguing or interesting.
Basically actually I have to force myself to continue playing. I'll try and then I'll let you know.

Thanks

 

[supercheese123]

Thanks for replay but until now Sterling is really thin and skinny to small while Brenna making the due proportions is fat and tall compared to him ... physical proportions are important during viewing and give us an immediate idea of the models and their relationship.
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all women have unrealistic proportions ... I hope the story becomes interesting because for now the game does not push me to continue... indeed I forget to open it because I do not see anything intriguing or interesting.
Basically actually I have to force myself to continue playing. I'll try and then I'll let you know.

Thanks

I hope with fat you mean voluptuous because otherwise i think your body standards might be even more unrealistic than ours

Also, you mentioned you are at only at chapter 2.
Like most incest games, it does need a bit of time to go full steam ahead and even then, the first 2-3 chapters of this game tend to be more action filled than most others since everyone is so damn horny even if incest stigma is keeping things at bay

 

[defd©™]

I hope with fat you mean voluptuous because otherwise i think your body standards might be even more unrealistic than ours

Also, you mentioned you are at only at chapter 2.
Like most incest games, it does need a bit of time to go full steam ahead and even then, the first 2-3 chapters of this game tend to be more action filled than most others since everyone is so damn horny even if incest stigma is keeping things at bay

I just played the game at initial release so I perfectly know what you mean... that is why i'm back to this game after 3 years.
I have played great icest game that are already completed like Summer with Mia act1 and the game was very interesting since the first releases.

in any case I'm on Ch3 today and i still find hilarious the proportion of the MC compared to her sister Brenna


The Hunter with Eve is the best until now but saddly there is no progression with Hunter theyare just a sorrt of gameover punishment and this is not good for me...
Hunter scenes and the consequences should be very interesting to avoid boring MC that fuck all holes around.

Just my opinion

anyway the positive point is that there is a lot of fanny dialogs and events even after Hinter scene they seens to be disconnected like nothing happened...

But the grandpa Hunter has a very big big penis... also here there is a proportion mistakes because old man penis usually tend to get smaller... But Hunter has a very big big penis... also here there is a proportion mistakes because old man penis usually tend to get smaller... but in any case the Hunter Big dick is the best thing in this game and I hope to see some girl that after the scene with Hunter she have to confront to Steriling and start a discussion about that SIZE MATTERS

This MC is really fanny!
I agree with the supporters that want more Hunter scenes because without him the story will be a boring unbelievable childish tale

 

[uscmiller22]

No, I couldn't have. Patreon broadened their guidelines to include implications of offending content. If I did it in January, I'd still be doing this now.

Just curious, couldn’t you just start releasing the chapters to the paid discord and never release new content on Patreon? From some other devs who are inactive for years, I assume Patreon doesn’t do anything with inactivity. Wouldn’t that solve the rules issue and still let you continue getting your same Patreon income?

 

[OmegaZero21]

No, I couldn't have. Patreon broadened their guidelines to include implications of offending content. If I did it in January, I'd still be doing this now.

And that's the issue Patreon is STILL broadening their definition of "offending content" the issue is they'll NEVER stop until the only thing left is consensual "vanilla" content. The kinda content the vast majority of people don't really care for.

 

[ScareKing]

I just played the game at initial release so I perfectly know what you mean... that is why i'm back to this game after 3 years.
I have played great icest game that are already completed like Summer with Mia act1 and the game was very interesting since the first releases.

in any case I'm on Ch3 today and i still find hilarious the proportion of the MC compared to her sister Brenna
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The Hunter with Eve is the best until now but saddly there is no progression with Hunter theyare just a sorrt of gameover punishment and this is not good for me...
Hunter scenes and the consequences should be very interesting to avoid boring MC that fuck all holes around.

Just my opinion

anyway the positive point is that there is a lot of fanny dialogs and events even after Hinter scene they seens to be disconnected like nothing happened...

But the grandpa Hunter has a very big big penis... also here there is a proportion mistakes because old man penis usually tend to get smaller... But Hunter has a very big big penis... also here there is a proportion mistakes because old man penis usually tend to get smaller... but in any case the Hunter Big dick is the best thing in this game and I hope to see some girl that after the scene with Hunter she have to confront to Steriling and start a discussion about that SIZE MATTERS

This MC is really fanny!
I agree with the supporters that want more Hunter scenes because without him the story will be a boring unbelievable childish tale

I think the way NTR works in this game, its probably the best way to make NTR haters play it with out complain about it but alot of NTR fans would like to see Hunter with every girl, and thats what What If become and unfortunately, its what give all the Patreon problems.

 

[abhi1180]

No, I couldn't have. Patreon broadened their guidelines to include implications of offending content. If I did it in January, I'd still be doing this now.

I hope things get normal for you with patreon and i hope patreon stops bull shitting with there rules I have seen many other developers facing the same problem and i would recommend to make an account on subscribe star too......

 

[dartred]

^correction on "alot of NTR fans would like to see Hunter with every girl, and thats what What If become"

What ifs can only do, what the main game has already done. What ifs are just being used to see more of Hunter, but nothing we haven't already seen. It's just to get creative with Hunter and see him in different scenarios.

 

[Bear2093]

Don't mean to sound impatient, but do we know the progress the dev is that? Are they still combing through the game or are they waiting on patreon to get back to them?