Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[sorco2003]

No it can't... How the hell do you make it so those girls have willing sex with HUNTER?!

Yes, NTR can be made in OTHER games where the girl is willing, but that has to be established, setup or build up to. There is no reasonable way those girls would want to have sex with their crypt keeper grandpa.

Please, let's stay inside the TOS, there is no grandpa in this game, there is an old man, presumably a landlord, who rents the house to a lady, presumably a landlady...

In other more serious matters, it is incredible how offended "people" can go so far and damage the effort, work and wishes just because it does not fit their taste.
Worst of all, is it someone who gave money to WWG at least once, or can you report it without being subs?
I don't like Hunter's content (non-consensual is not my thing) but I just had to not download the what´s if and that's it, I was still enjoying the rest of the content....

 

[dartred]

You can report devs on Patreon without being a member.

 

[john984]

Hey, I just added the rest of the wallpapers to my post. It's in page 626 at the bottom or here is the link to it:

https://f95zone.to/threads/power-vacuum-ch-9-what-if-vol-1-6-what-why-games.36240/post-8205761

I think there wasn't a wallpaper for October 2021, if I'm wrong please share it so I can add it there.

 

[genteis]

Lol.... anti-NTR fans have always been the worst, dare I say.... insufferable. On hentai sites, whenever a NTR hentai or NTR+fat guy hentai gets released, they just come out of the woodwork whining. Worst is when they also start attacking the NTR crowd by calling them cucks or betas and what else without any provocation too.

 

[Hermit76]

Lol.... anti-NTR fans have always been the worst, dare I say.... degenerate. On hentai sites, whenever a NTR hentai or NTR+fat guy hentai gets released, they just come out of the woodwork whining. Worst is when they also start attacking the NTR crowd by calling them cucks or betas and what else without any provocation too.

I myself would hesitate to call anti-NTR fans "degenerate" and then write about "without any provocation"...
Generally I really dislike NTR and do not understand this fetish at all. But in this case, meaning in the case of PV, it is just a funny way of a game over with a possibility of restarting at the point, where I made the mistake, with a second chance. So nothing bad really happened.

 

[Nick Black]

I honestly can't understand all this resentment towards of certain games.
Don't like NTR games? Ok, don't play them, no one forces you, each of us has games that he prefers or hates.
I personally love the work of What? Why? Games, and open the commitment that he, like many game developers that appear on this site they put into the work they do, at the time they decide to invest to carry on their works, and report a game that does not oblige you to play
necessarily NTR content, or for the "What if" series which is a sort of spin-off,
and it is not obligatory to follow the history of the main game i consider it not very logical.
I don't want to be misunderstood, several games on this site have been removed
because they had contents in some ways to the limit, and it is right, they exist for this
the regulations, but report a game only because some content does not are to your liking, i consider it a lack of respect that is likely to frustrate the work of a developer.
After all is only fiction, it is not that if I play GTA when i leave the house i do i start to be a criminal, and this is also why there are video games, to escape a bit from the routine.

 

[genteis]

I myself would hesitate to call anti-NTR fans "degenerate" and then write about "without any provocation"...

Well, I edited it before your reply, knowing it was a bit harsh to say, but you know its true that they do it with no provocation. Dev is doing its own thing, game is enjoyable but the anti-NTR people just have this urge to go and shit on anything that has a hint of NTR, even if voluntary. I hate furry content but I don't go around asking the games to cater to my preferences.

Just out of curiosity decided to check the hentai site again. Checked one of the most recent non NTR/Fat guy hentais, guess what the 3rd top comment is? "After all the fucking Ugly bastard + ntr + rape........ Only rape seems like an improvement."

 

[evyleu]

I don't know why so many complaints about antiNTR , if the one who reported it was a person antiRape content haha, (deserved report ). NTR and rape are not the same, it's easy follow patreon's rules

 

[Nick Black]

I don't know why so many complaints about antiNTR , if the one who reported it was a person antiRape content haha, (deserved report ). NTR and rape are not the same, it's easy follow patreon's rules

You are right, rape content and NTR content are not the same and i agree with you on the rules,
for example, entire games have been rightly removed from this site because the characters were represented at an excessively young age,
and ok that rape contents are not welcomed by everyone, personally in some games
i consider excessive,
but the villain of the game is the classic ugly bastard does not follow the rules, and changing his character would change the whole game, and that would mean for What? Why? Games doing hellish work for re-adapting the whole game.
Anyway as i said before, it is a work of fantasy, with new rules Patreon risk ruining years of work.

 

[dartred]

WWG has said before, he would first drop the game before removing Hunter.

Hunter is the driving force of the game. It's the reason sterling began finding interest in the girls of his house in the first place. Had Hunter not been there to show that even woman close to you are still, well woman.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

I don't know why so many complaints about antiNTR , if the one who reported it was a person antiRape content haha, (deserved report ). NTR and rape are not the same, it's easy follow patreon's rules

 

[ScareKing]

I don't know why so many complaints about antiNTR , if the one who reported it was a person antiRape content haha, (deserved report ). NTR and rape are not the same, it's easy follow patreon's rules

U keep tryning to say the person who reported was not someone antiNTR but everyone knows thats not true, WWG got reported right after What If 4 release, besides, pretty much every game in this forum dont follow all patreon rules, do u see this games being reported?

 

[zindathar]

i think it´s stupid to report a game just because it´s not to your liking, if its not your thing, just dont play it and thats it, problem solved, whoever reported the game, must be some babyrat or ratface

 

[DanteRed]

You'd think that people would have learned this lesson when they are young, that if you don't like something, just move on and find something else. But no, some of them just have to ruin it for everyone else. I'm all for anonymity on the internet but I wish we could make an exception in this case and find out who reported this game, so that we could send that person poop emoji's and tell them how much they suck.

What is even more tragic is that we were so close to getting chapter 10. Alright, it wasn't definitive that it would have been a late May release but all the signs were pointing to it.

 

[Skode]

Do people not even realise its an NTR "Parody" game? The NTR stuff is strickly non-canon, the antagonist when he fails in canon events gets cartoonishly punished for his escapades and of course he is about as repulsive and dumb as you can get from a "threat" to your love interests. He does a lot of heavy lifting to the comedy of the game its biggest selling point IMO and he's also the lynchpin of the narrative and facilitator of the game being about an MC fucking everything in sight including who he should not because he was a meek beta wimp yet he is now an alpha harem chad.

As for the reporter - im actually wondering if it was more a sulking of NTR content or if was salty response to continued "what if" episodes on account that there was a common misconception they were massively delaying the main game updates and people were getting prissy as the backer votes were largely biased to NTR scenarios (as well as suggestions for that matter).

 

[swaghaver9000]

Do people not even realise its an NTR "Parody" game? The NTR stuff is strickly non-canon, the antagonist when he fails in canon events gets cartoonishly punished for his escapades and of course he is about as repulsive and dumb as you can get from a "threat" to your love interests. He does a lot of heavy lifting to the comedy of the game its biggest selling point IMO and he's also the lynchpin of the narrative and facilitator of the game being about an MC fucking everything in sight including who he should not because he was a meek beta wimp yet he is now an alpha harem chad.

As for the reporter - im actually wondering if it was more a sulking of NTR content or if was salty response to continued "what if" episodes on account that there was a common misconception they were massively delaying the main game updates and people were getting prissy as the backer votes were largely biased to NTR scenarios (as well as suggestions for that matter).

I like ntr but the game definitely sucks if you were to play it looking for just a vanilla incest game.

 

[Xegrid]

Do people not even realise its an NTR "Parody" game? The NTR stuff is strickly non-canon, the antagonist when he fails in canon events gets cartoonishly punished for his escapades and of course he is about as repulsive and dumb as you can get from a "threat" to your love interests. He does a lot of heavy lifting to the comedy of the game its biggest selling point IMO and he's also the lynchpin of the narrative and facilitator of the game being about an MC fucking everything in sight including who he should not because he was a meek beta wimp yet he is now an alpha harem chad.

As for the reporter - im actually wondering if it was more a sulking of NTR content or if was salty response to continued "what if" episodes on account that there was a common misconception they were massively delaying the main game updates and people were getting prissy as the backer votes were largely biased to NTR scenarios (as well as suggestions for that matter).

i mean i just checked my last playthrough save from this game and that save is from 6 blody months ago, soooo i'm gone go ahead and call a little bit of bs on the hole "it will not affect the regular relase thingy" i mean, many of you talk like they magicly produce themself, like it does not take hours appon hours appon hours to render, pose, code, write, bug test, link the scenes and than god forbid something pops up during testing
i mean... do all the work that is req to dev an update just gets done itself for the what ifs and the what ifs only?
and for the "problems" and "argueing" that goes on that's simple, 90% happened when insted of creating 2 threats 1 for the regular game and 1 for the parody (LIKE MOST PEOPLES DO) they both got put in the same thread witch kind of sucks when you try to see what's new, what was the update rate and things like that, because a new player might come along and think "hey this gets updates rather regulary" witch is not rly the case since the last 1 was 6 month ago
all in all, throughout the years i would say on this forum, i've never seen a fetish group( in this case ntr ) that has so many verbal lashings and dogpile on people who do not like there fetish, i mean, rly just try to look for any, ANY, other fethis content on this forum and you will see that the pro ntr crowd is 1 of the most toxic and antagonistic when it comes to people not likeing there content, because when it comes to this game ntr was always there, if you want it you can have it if you don't want it you can skip it, simple, no problems what so ever, than the what ifs came along, a ntr "alternate parody", and we are now going through the longest update timers for the past 2 ish updates? (since the updates that"would not take any time, but kinda do, a bit?" came along)

as for the whole patreon stuff, i don't know if it was just a reg check (like patreon does) or if it was some1 reporting, but all i can say is that thous what ifs came out last year, so if it was some1 repoting it they shure ass hell took there time (but than agiain let's be honest here, if it would have happened 4 years from now in the future, probably the anty what if's crowd would have been blaimed for it), or maybe it was some1 pro what ifs who was mad that there is gone be a regular relase and not his favorit what ifs coming up next, unless we know for shure there is no real way of telling, and anything would be just speculation

 

[dartred]

as for the whole patreon stuff, i don't know if it was just a reg check (like patreon does) or if it was some1 reporting, but all i can say is that thous what ifs came out last year, so if it was some1 repoting it they shure ass hell took there time (but than agiain let's be honest here, if it would have happened 4 years from now in the future, probably the anty what if's crowd would have been blaimed for it), or maybe it was some1 pro what ifs who was mad that there is gone be a regular relase and not his favorit what ifs coming up next, unless we know for shure there is no real way of telling, and anything would be just speculation

The report happened after What if 4, which we all know had the most hard core Hunter content yet. It's not hard to see if something was gonna break the camel's back, it would be that one.

 

[rhcp725]

In regards to the length if time between updates you have to look at just the sheer amount of content being released. In the first 2 chapters it was just the 3 main family members. Since then 7 more characters have been introduced that all have their own events. Plus each chapter adds more and more animations from the previous chapters. These things take time.

Could wwg do smaller releases with only 1 character's path at a time yes but that would open up the but why hasn't my favorite character been updated yet complaining. I'd rather wait until he get the full chapter and enjoy it then.

The What Ifs were nice little heres some content to enjoy while waiting on the main game. They were a break to have fun with instead of tirelessly grinding away with established characters instead he could go anywhere with them since it was non canon. Put complained because they tended to be ntr based put it's what his paying customer wanted.

So now we get an even longer wait because the " I'm offended " crybabies had to tattle. Is it that hard to ignore something you don't like. Hell I'm not big on country music but i don't complain ots not Rock, i just listen to what i want and let the fans of what I don't enjoy what they like. It's really not that hard a concept...

 

[Fayn Arawn]

You'd think that people would have learned this lesson when they are young, that if you don't like something, just move on and find something else.

I have a sneaking suspicion that some people on this forum are still young, hence they have not learned.

Do people not even realise its an NTR "Parody" game?

Clearly they don't. Whether they're children, non-native English speakers, coomers skipping through the dialogue, or just plain morons, it seems like a lot of people don't understand this game's story at all.

I like ntr but the game definitely sucks if you were to play it looking for just a vanilla incest game.

You're not wrong, but that's like saying you like steak, but going to a steakhouse sucks if you're a vegan. Why is it that the vanilla fans are ignoring the clear content warnings?

i mean i just checked my last playthrough save from this game and that save is from 6 blody months ago, soooo i'm gone go ahead and call a little bit of bs on the hole "it will not affect the regular relase thingy" i mean, many of you talk like they magicly produce themself, like it does not take hours appon hours appon hours to render, pose, code, write, bug test, link the scenes and than god forbid something pops up during testing
i mean... do all the work that is req to dev an update just gets done itself for the what ifs and the what ifs only?

Sure, the What Ifs take some time to create, but you might be vastly overestimating how much time. Have you played them? They're very short, and the last one (which seemed the longest to me) used a ton of repeated images and animations. I'd estimate if none of the What Ifs had been made, development on Chapter 10 would've finished a month sooner at most. And that's assuming WWG would've worked overtime on it like he did for the What Ifs, as a reward to his paying supporters.

and for the "problems" and "argueing" that goes on that's simple, 90% happened when insted of creating 2 threats 1 for the regular game and 1 for the parody (LIKE MOST PEOPLES DO) they both got put in the same thread witch kind of sucks when you try to see what's new, what was the update rate and things like that, because a new player might come along and think "hey this gets updates rather regulary" witch is not rly the case since the last 1 was 6 month ago

This is an interesting idea, but I'm not sure effective it would've been once certain people found out that the What If thread was getting updated while the main game thread was not. They might not get alerts but they'd see it in the Latest Updates page.

all in all, throughout the years i would say on this forum, i've never seen a fetish group( in this case ntr ) that has so many verbal lashings and dogpile on people who do not like there fetish, i mean, rly just try to look for any, ANY, other fethis content on this forum and you will see that the pro ntr crowd is 1 of the most toxic and antagonistic when it comes to people not likeing there content, because when it comes to this game ntr was always there, if you want it you can have it if you don't want it you can skip it, simple, no problems what so ever, than the what ifs came along, a ntr "alternate parody", and we are now going through the longest update timers for the past 2 ish updates? (since the updates that"would not take any time, but kinda do, a bit?" came along)

You're asserting that the NTR fans are the ones who are toxic and antagonistic? That's not how antagonism works. You don't get to pick a fight and then blame the other guy for starting it.

as for the whole patreon stuff, i don't know if it was just a reg check (like patreon does) or if it was some1 reporting, but all i can say is that thous what ifs came out last year, so if it was some1 repoting it they shure ass hell took there time (but than agiain let's be honest here, if it would have happened 4 years from now in the future, probably the anty what if's crowd would have been blaimed for it), or maybe it was some1 pro what ifs who was mad that there is gone be a regular relase and not his favorit what ifs coming up next, unless we know for shure there is no real way of telling, and anything would be just speculation

That's true, we don't know for sure what happened, we just have coincidence and conjecture. Still, it's naive to not acknowledge the timing of the report. Why would someone report it four years from now? That wouldn't make a difference because the game would be long-since completed.