Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

Knighthood · May 26, 2022

beegemgeege said:
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Awesome, thanks! Any chance you could post the last one as well? I don't think we ever got it on f95.

beegemgeege · May 26, 2022

TGafy · May 26, 2022

beegemgeege said:
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Who are the two girls behind Mallory? New characters?

Also, I'm a big Ophelia fan so don't burn me too much on this...
Looks like if she were to take that top off, her boobs will enter ultra-droop-mode.

beegemgeege · May 26, 2022

beegemgeege · May 26, 2022

storm1051787 · May 26, 2022

SuddenReal said:
There are plenty of games that have little to no storyline and none of them are this successful. That’s because games need a good story and for this one it’s Hunter.

I know this game is really popular with the ntr crowd, but lets be honest. Most people who come on these sites and play these type of games are not really into ntr. It's very much a niche and controversial fetish which is why we have arguments over it all the time as most people don't actually like getting ntr content. If anything it's the fact that the ntr content is skippable that's lead to this game's success.

The ntr is there for the people who want it and the people that don't want it just come for the humor and good character models, which replace the ntr scenes with mishaps for hunter where he ends up getting injured in some type of way. A lot of games don't really have much balance on that type of thing so the people who don't like ntr have it forced upon them or the opposite happens and ntr content is next to non existent and often forgotten about. This way everybody wins and more people are willing to support it. Most of the drama just seems to happen over the what ifs.

SuddenReal · May 26, 2022

storm1051787 said:
If anything it's the fact that the ntr content is skippable that's lead to this game's success.

That helped, yes. But it's also the fact that you've got an opponent to outsmart. To use a good example of why a game needs a story, take the infamous Big Brother. At first, the point is to stay one step ahead of your rival Eric, but when people complained about him (no idea why, it was so badly implemented he was pretty much a non-factor), he got written out and suddenly there was no more story. So what happened? The story devolved into a "let's make a porn" and interest in the game went down, because it was a non-story. But here there's the constant "threat" that makes an interesting story.

There's a bunch of games out there that start of strong story wise, but then lose their focus. Instead of having an overarching storyline, they're just "bang all these girls" and once that's done, they have no more idea on how to go further, since that's pretty much the story. But since the story here (getting rid of Hunter) isn't tied to sex, there's a lot more freedom.

Fayn Arawn · May 26, 2022

storm1051787 said:
This way everybody wins and more people are willing to support it. Most of the drama just seems to happen over the what ifs.

This is exactly right. This game has found a brilliant formula which allows it to appeal to fans with different tastes. Unfortunately some people didn't share this view. In their minds the (non-canon) What Ifs meant they weren't winning, so no one would be allowed to win.

With regards to Hunter, I'd like to reinforce that he is absolutely essential to the story. As mentioned by others, Hunter is a source of conflict which is a key ingredient in stories to make them interesting. Hunter is also the catalyst for many plot developments like Sterling's physical growth and the women's increased sexual appetites. Without Hunter, Sterling would probably still be a short weakling, the ladies probably wouldn't be horny enough to turn to Sterling to satisfy them, and they'd probably all be homeless. Sterling might not realize it (yet?) but he has many reasons to be grateful to Hunter.

Ironically there are 2 ways for Hunter to "win": 1) by getting the ladies himself or 2) by Sterling realizing his full "dio del sesso" potential. It's almost like the Sith "Rule of Two" from Star Wars. If the apprentice can defeat the master, then the master has done his job.

storm1051787 · May 26, 2022

SuddenReal said:
But it's also the fact that you've got an opponent to outsmart.

I mean, not really. Hunter's kind of stupid and the choices that lead to the ntr scenes are always exteremy obvious. There are plenty of ntr games where the characters are competing with each other. This is not one of those games at all. Even with ntr turned on its pretty much impossible for you to get an ntr scene unless you deliberately let it happen. Hunter is important to the story but that's only because Sterling probably would have never thought of doing anything with any of the characters without Hunters interference. Most of the character events honestly don't really have anything to do with hunter as a character or any of his plans.

Hunter actively helps the protagonist build up a relationship and actually wants Sterling to succeed. Hunter's only real problem is that Sterling is unwilling to share so he's not even really a rival in any regard. It's honestly almost like Sterling is ntring Hunter. Hunter is basically akin to wily coyote where everytime he tries something it blows up in his face and they are pretty much all compeltely ridiculous. I also don't really get why so many people are trying to talk so much about the story in a game that's clearly pretty comedic and episodic in nature. I like the game but it isn't really trying to have some super deep compleling story and theres nothing wrong with that.

"Having an opponent to outsmart" as never really a thing in this game whether you play with ntr or not.

SuddenReal · May 26, 2022

I didn't mean gamewise, I meant storywise. I know it's set up in a way that Hunter will never win, but storywise, you have
an antagonist. Too many games just have the MC and the women to bang, which results in a poor storyline.

Fedakuznecov · May 26, 2022

Please update

storm1051787 · May 26, 2022

SuddenReal said:
I didn't mean gamewise, I meant storywise. I know it's set up in a way that Hunter will never win, but storywise, you have
an antagonist. Too many games just have the MC and the women to bang, which results in a poor storyline.

I don't really think not having an antagonist is really the issue for those stories. I think it's just more that a lot of devs and players just care about getting each scene then they do about developing characters and the plot. There are plenty of games on here that have pretty good writing without it devolving it just porn without an antagonist and there are also ntr games on this site that suffer from what you are talking about to but with the antagonist banging all the characters instead of the mcs. These are just the issues with the devs, having an antagonist or not doesn't really matter.

I agree that hunter to important to get rid of though even if they stop making ntr scenes as I don't think Ophelia or Kumiko will advance without Hunter meddling in some way

Ibrahem98 · May 26, 2022

I always wonder is it hard to find alternative for pateron or create similar site

Deleted member 446419 · May 26, 2022

dartred said:
Hey guys, there is a Status Update on Patreon and i want to share here so you guys can understand the delay. It can't be any clearer that the delay is all patreons fault.

TLDR; Patreon is forcing WWG to go over the game and remove all Incest content that may have slipped through, all content that somehow "implies" incest and any blackmail or non-con. He then has to submit a build to their liking and they have to green light it. This is going to cause a delay and he hopes for a very early June release.

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Back in January, the Patreon Trust & Safety team contacted me with the news that my project was against Patreon's guidelines for acceptable content. When asked what content was against their TOS, they listed the What If series. Since I couldn't alter those What Ifs without butchering them, I told Patreon that I'd remove the offending content. The Trust & Safety team then asked what content I'd be providing. I told them about the main game, Power Vacuum. I provided them a link and they didn't get back to me for four months.
Which brings us to last week when they finally got back to me(yes, four months later) to tell me that much of Power Vacuum is against their TOS. If you're familiar with Patreon's guidelines, you'd know that incest isn't allowed. But according to Patreon's Trust & Safety team, even implications of incest aren't allowed. Dialogue such as "You're like a sister to me." or "We're like a family." are now against the TOS. Of course, blackmail and non-consent content were also brought up.
So now, I have to comb through all of Power Vacuum's dialogue for anything that breaks Patreon's wide reaching TOS. I will also have to disable all NTR content in the Patreon version of the game. I'll still be making the same amount of NTR content but NTR will be set to "off" by default in Power Vacuum.
Having to rebuild the game will regrettably lead to a delay for Chapter 10. My initial schedule had me releasing at the end of May, but with how things are going with Patreon, I'm hesitant to give a date. With how open ended their TOS has become, I fear there may be a chance they could reject my first rebuild. Ideally, I can get the rebuild approved and the update out before June 7th. I'm sorry, I know it's been a long wait for Chapter 10 but hopefully it won't be much longer.
For everyone that upgraded their pledge in anticipation of a May release, you can lower/cancel your pledge in June and still get the perks you had in May. When the beta or official release is out, just message me on Patreon and I will send you the appropriate links.
If you have questions, I'd appreciate it if you could take them to the Power Vacuum Discord.

These Patreon execs are sneaky fuckers. They're probably the biggest fans of the game. They get to play the game even before it is released on the Patreon. Must be one of those NTR haters

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john984 · May 26, 2022

As always, support the creator. He deserves the money.

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