Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[Fayn Arawn]

Ummm...........does Catherine doing Brenna count as NTR?

Catherine didn't know about Brenna and Sterling. If anything, in Catherine's mind she was NTR-ing Eva. But considering how polyamorous the characters are becoming, I don't know if it really counts as NTR.

Personally I suspect/hope the women will start to become more sexual with each other, to set the stage for a massive orgy.

 

[ScareKing]

Ummm...........does Catherine doing Brenna count as NTR? Idk, I'm been hating Catherine more and more, she's obnoxious, cock-blocks all the damn time, so damn pushy and intrusive and has absolutely NO respect, NONE, for personal boundaries and the entire game I was hoping I did not have to worry about doing anything with her and hoping I'd get a choice(like in Milfy City or Man of the House on who to go for...did Man of the House have that, I don't remember, but other games I mean where you get that choice) to just protect her but not do her, but nope..all this is just a messy situation.

No, she says later that she just want Brenna to be happy and believes MC should fuck her to make that happend, so its more like shes building to have a threesome, probably we going to see alot of scenes with multiple girls in the next chapter.

 

[E_nigma]

Catherine didn't know about Brenna and Sterling. If anything, in Catherine's mind she was NTR-ing Eva. But considering how polyamorous the characters are becoming, I don't know if it really counts as NTR.

Personally I suspect/hope the women will start to become more sexual with each other, to set the stage for a massive orgy.

The preggo what if becoming canon

 

[storm1051787]

What Ifs are appealing to the most important audience since they choose everything, if you dont like it, either sign hes patreon e try to change something or just ignore and stop crying about that.

I wish it was that simple. The what ifs are voted on pretty much just by the high tier patreons and they always vote for the ntr option no matter what. Which honestly isn't my problem. My problem is that they always pick the most boring scenario just because it's ntr. I'll still never get over that Penny what if losing so we could have a third Brenna Hunter what if as if Hunter didn't already have a ton of scenes with Brenna. I've just kind of given up on the what ifs at this point. wwg should just ban Hunter/Brenna suggestions

 

[whalat]

The preggo what if becoming canon

There's no way a more consensual version of that isn't endgame right?
This last chapter has been all about getting the girls into the path of being with each other and poly with Sterling.
Plus the amount of times there's been a noncanon ending or what if where the girls get pregnant and are really into it makes me pretty sure that's in the cards for the true ending.

 

[Porthos#1]

There's no way a more consensual version of that isn't endgame right?
This last chapter has been all about getting the girls into the path of being with each other and poly with Sterling.
Plus the amount of times there's been a noncanon ending or what if where the girls get pregnant and are really into it makes me pretty sure that's in the cards for the true ending.

It certainly looks like you are right - all roads seem to be leading to pregnancy.

 

[azada83]

Android versions are still unpatched. Anyone know how to apply the incest patch to the android version?

 

[ScareKing]

I wish it was that simple. The what ifs are voted on pretty much just by the high tier patreons and they always vote for the ntr option no matter what. Which honestly isn't my problem. My problem is that they always pick the most boring scenario just because it's ntr. I'll still never get over that Penny what if losing so we could have a third Brenna Hunter what if as if Hunter didn't already have a ton of scenes with Brenna. I've just kind of given up on the what ifs at this point. wwg should just ban Hunter/Brenna suggestions

I agree with they picking "boring" scenarios or at least boring to me but dev never say anything about they have to pick NTR, its just what who pays like it, so if i see something i dont want to see again, i could pay and try to change it or just ignore right? My "problem" its just those guys who dont like NTR and come here everytime to complain about something they not even need to see, besides a couple of those who spread a bunch of lies.

 

[Phenim]

Android versions are still unpatched. Anyone know how to apply the incest patch to the android version?

You can't patch an andriod app. The patch has to be applied to the pc version and they packed into an .apk by someone who knows how.

 

[storm1051787]

I agree with they picking "boring" scenarios or at least boring to me but dev never say anything about they have to pick NTR, its just what who pays like it, so if i see something i dont want to see again, i could pay and try to change it or just ignore right? My "problem" its just those guys who dont like NTR and come here everytime to complain about something they not even need to see, besides a couple of those who spread a bunch of lies.

Oh I know they don't have to. It's just the fact they keep doing it which is why I've completely given up on the what ifs. I was, paying and voting but after that last Brenna Hunter one won I just completely lost interest because I realized it's going to be the same stuff every time. I mean I'm already guessing the next 3 are going to be hunter based with two being Ophelia. The problem what the what ifs isn't the dev it's the patreons who are voting and suggestin scenerios.They don't really care that much about interesting scenarios they just want more ntr scenes. I don't really think there is a good way to fix that problem. WWG even said what if 6 wasn't going to be ntr and it still ended up being Brenna x Hunter because that's all the voting patreons really care about.



As for the guys complaining ntr just ignore them. The front page says the ntr is opinional so I don't think they are actually turning that many people away. I think they are more upset than usual because of Ophelia's first vaginal scene was in a bad ending, which I think was a bad idea. A lot of people don't really care that much about anal so WWG should have did her first vaginal scene like he did Amber's and we would have gotten less complaints. Then have this chapter's bad ending be anal. Ophelia was probably the most anticipated of 3 and Hunter got there first so they feel they need a place to vent. Hunter getting there first is why they feel like it's an ntr focused game even though it's not. That and the what if problem. If you report it the mods will probably remove it. If not they'll lose interest after a while.

I don't really think WWG really cares that much about NTR given the nature of the ntr scenes in early chapters. He just knows some of his patreons love it. The early chapters in the game really just seemed like he was making fun of ntr tropes more than trying to dedicate the game to it. There really isnt that much ntr content in the game.

 

[E_nigma]

Oh I know they don't have to. It's just the fact they keep doing it which is why I've completely given up on the what ifs. I was, paying and voting but after that last Brenna Hunter one won I just completely lost interest because I realized it's going to be the same stuff every time. I mean I'm already guessing the next 3 are going to be hunter based with two being Ophelia. The problem what the what ifs isn't the dev it's the patreons who are voting and suggestin scenerios.They don't really care that much about interesting scenarios they just want more ntr scenes. I don't really think there is a good way to fix that problem. WWG even said what if 6 wasn't going to be ntr and it still ended up being Brenna x Hunter because that's all the voting patreons really care about.



As for the guys complaining ntr just ignore them. The front page says the ntr is opinional so I don't think they are actually turning that many people away. I think they are more upset than usual because of Ophelia's first vaginal scene was in a bad ending, which I think was a bad idea. A lot of people don't really care that much about anal so. WWG should have did her first vaginal scene like he did Amber's and we would have gotten less complaints. This chapter's bad ending be anal. Ophelia was probably the most anticipated of 3 and Hunter got there first so they feel they need a place to vent. Hunter getting there first is why they feel like it's an ntr focused game even though it's not. That and the what if problem. If you report it the mods will probably remove it. If not they'll lose interest after a while.

I don't really think WWG really cares that much about NTR given the nature of the ntr scenes in early chapters. He just knows some of his patreons love it. The early chapters in the game really just seemed like he was making fun of ntr tropes more than trying to dedicate the game to it. There really isnt that much ntr content in the game.

I do recall there being a rule with what ifs that only 2 in a row would be ntr, hence how the pregnancy one slipped through as an ntr option was removed for the third what if. But yeah, you right. many good points, wwg did sort of make his own bed when it comes to the outrage that those caused.

As to your last point, yeah I feel the exact same way. The early scenes really did seem like just a parody of it and was pretty dismissible, the scenes weren't given extra polish like they started to get as it moved on, hence the perception of a focus shift, justified or not.

 

[Skode]

Ummm...........does Catherine doing Brenna count as NTR? Idk, I'm been hating Catherine more and more, she's obnoxious, cock-blocks all the damn time, so damn pushy and intrusive and has absolutely NO respect, NONE, for personal boundaries and the entire game I was hoping I did not have to worry about doing anything with her and hoping I'd get a choice(like in Milfy City or Man of the House on who to go for...did Man of the House have that, I don't remember, but other games I mean where you get that choice) to just protect her but not do her, but nope..all this is just a messy situation.

No, with the NTR its about an antagonist trying to take the love interest away from the protagonist. Catherine is not at all trying to take Brenna from Sterling (whom she doesnt know about hence she is actively trying TO GET THEM TOGETHER so very much the opposite though her competitive nature means she has no such qualms about cucking Eva who ironcialy would probably get off on the whole thing).

Another thing to remember is they're all being actively drugged to remove any and all inhibitions by Hunter and as the king of depraved his genes and traits are flowing hard and heavy in his lineage (Ophelia getting sexually dominant, Brenna getting possessive, Catherine sexually harassing friends and family alike, Lucia showing mass getting off on misogyny etc). People likely will not have liked that scene certainly or the one where she blatantly wants to strapon ram Amber and Sterling alike but its just the effect of everything going on around her. Others likely might not approve Brenna BiSexuality overlapping to fixing her attention on her mother or said mother treating her son like a sex slave but its gonna happen when drugged and with no filter to hold them back.

Besides alot of the seeds seem to be getting sown to start actively ramping up for threesomes and lesbian scenes going forward not to mention more family fun with one another - Kimiko being named got Amber off, Amber idulging Catherine, Azila and Ophelia experimental past coming to the fore, Azila getting off on Mallory being name dropped too?, Mallory fully in relationship with Eva now, She was also trying to talk Ophelia into the idea and literally no one seems to be against sharing in entire harem (at least with ones they know about so far). The only antagonistic scenario was banging Rebecca triggering Amber but im sure it'll be resolved soon too given she forgave Catherine quickly enough and i dont think we've seen the last of Rebecca.

 

[Kingkoopa97]

I don't really think WWG really cares that much about NTR given the nature of the ntr scenes in early chapters. He just knows some of his patreons love it. The early chapters in the game really just seemed like he was making fun of ntr tropes more than trying to dedicate the game to it. There really isnt that much ntr content in the game.

The whole game is a parody of porn game tropes. he makes fun of everything not just the ntr, your just cherry picking because you don't like it. If he didn't like making ntr how come it was apart of the game from the beginning? A lot of Anti ntr guys say having ntr makes your game less successful so why would he have done it from the jump?

On the What if, give me a suggestion that is more interesting than the ones we have had?

 

[Miliryan]

I didn't know what to expect. I knew about this game for a pretty long time, but for some reason never tried it. Now i gave it a shot, and i have to say ... It is one of the best adult games i have ever played.

The main positive are the girls. They are all beautiful and likeable on their own way. I really like all of them. But if i have to choose from the main 4, Brenna is my favourite by far. From the other girls Aliza and Tiff are the best for me.

The writing and homour is really good too. It is simply entertaining to read.

I read the forum a little and saw there is a lot of talk about the NTR in this game. I don't want to argue about it, just say my own opinion. Basically, i like NTR when there is a purpose behind it. In this game it is moving the story forward. Or i should say the threat of the NTR moving it forward. (The MC wants to stop Hunter and now Drew to fuck the girls.)
While i am not the biggest fan of NTR, I think it is handeled almost perfectly in this game. This "the NTR is game over" type thing is looking bad on paper. But it is working for me.

I didn't talk about Hunter, but i find him hilarious. Yes, he is a dickhead, but the bantering between him and MC is funny. The fact that he is one of the ugliest man in existence is just the cherry on top.

On the other hand there is the new character, Drew. In the end of chapter 9, when we saw the Uber driver, we first thought was Drew, i was like: Oh no, i want to punch this idiot in the face so bad. But then comes the real Drew, a freaking sexy futa. God bless the creator!
I just really like sexy futa characters, so i am looking forward what she will do in the future. Like Hunter said, she looks like a naturally talented seducer. It would be a breath of fresh air to have a true competion for the girls. Beacuse the enitre Hunter drugging everybody thing is getting a little boring for me. This doesn't mean i don't want more Hunter content, i just see a lot potential with Drew.

With all of these i feel lucky, bacuse i can enjoy all the sex scenes in the game. In the NTR scenes, i just don't look at Hunter. (Fortunately, i don't have to bacuse the girls are sexy enough to enjoy those scenes too.) On the other hand, in the Drew sex scene i look at her a lot. And top of it all it is with Tiff. *Chef kiss

Of course, the game is not perfect. I didn't like the Ophelia femdom part. The Ophelia taking charge, the face sitting etc was hot. I just didn't like her attitude. The other thing, i feel like there is too much joke in the sex scenes sometimes. For example, the Aliza one in the new chapter. Like i said Aliza is one of my favourite, so i wanted her sex scene so much. And while the scene was hot, the joking was too much for me. Sometimes, i prefer more sensual scenes with more emotion in them. That is why i would really like to see more kissing in the sex scenes. I think it would show the love between the MC and girls more.

So, this is my short opinion of the game. I could go all day, what i love about the girls one by one. But it is not necessary. This game is almost perfect for me, and i will play it in the future as well.
What i wrote is strictly my opinion!

Great job 'What? Why? Games'!

 

[storm1051787]

The whole game is a parody of porn game tropes. he makes fun of everything not just the ntr, your just cherry picking because you don't like it. If he didn't like making ntr how come it was apart of the game from the beginning? A lot of Anti ntr guys say having ntr makes your game less successful so why would he have done it from the jump?

On the What if, give me a suggestion that is more interesting than the ones we have had?

Anyone who says having more options makes a game less successful is an idiot who just wants to bitch. Those are the people I said to ignore. Probably the same people who thinks every patreon dev is milking the game just because there isn't an update every month. Having more options is always going to make a game more successful and it's not like the game forces the ntr content on you. If you actually had to compete with hunter for relationship points or something I could understand. From my personal experience unless a game is completely dedicated ntr you have to deliberately want ntr to happen to get an ntr scene. I've seen a lot that let you completely stop an ntr scene right before it happens. There are quite a few games on this site with completely avoidable ntr. As long as the ntr is optional and easily avoidable I can't really see how you'd lose money by including it.


On the contrary I'd say ntr fans are probably willing to spent more money supporting a game that has ntr. If it's vanilla and you dislike the game you can move on but there are a lot less ntr games so fans are willing to spend more money for more ntr content. It's a niche



As for the what ifs I don't even really need to suggest new ones I can just point out some of the older ones.



What If: At Mallory's revenge party Brenna learned from Penny that she has an "Onlyfans" page way more successful than hers and they decide to team up.




Then there is Rebecca and Kimiko who don't have much content either. There's also Mallory and a lot of other girls to choose from. Then there could also be an evil sterling one like what if 3. Like if sterling creates an onlyfans account just to start making suggestions for Brenna and manages to convince Ophelia.


I don't even have a problem with ntr winning I have a problem with the scenarios being boring or repetitive. Really I'm mainly just pissed about what if 6 because in my opinion that Hunter Brenna sceinero that won shouldnt have been an option on the poll in the first place. If you are going to make an ntr option at least don't make one that we've pretty much already had in the main game and wasn't directly after another Brenna x Hunter what if. I mean come on I'm still upset about that 4 months later. 3 out of 6 what ifs are Brenna x Hunter. I don't even understand why didn't just have Catharine instead. If you guys can't even come up with better scenarios than that I don't see the point in having what ifs at all.

 

[Kingkoopa97]

Anyone who says having more options makes a game less successful is an idiot who just wants to bitch. Those are the people I said to ignore. Probably the same people who thinks every patreon dev is milking the game just because there isn't an update every month. Having more options is always going to make a game more successful and it's not like the game forces the ntr content on you. If you actually had to compete with hunter for relationship points or something I could understand. From my personal experience unless a game is completely dedicated ntr you have to deliberately want ntr to happen to get an ntr scene. I've seen a lot that let you completely stop an ntr scene right before it happens. There are quite a few games on this site with completely avoidable ntr. As long as the ntr is optional and easily avoidable I can't really see how you'd lose money by including it.


On the contrary I'd say ntr fans are probably willing to spent more money supporting a game that has ntr. If it's vanilla and you dislike the game you can move on but there are a lot less ntr games so fans are willing to spend more money for more ntr content. It's a niche



As for the what ifs I don't even really need to suggest new ones I can just point out some of the older ones.



What If: At Mallory's revenge party Brenna learned from Penny that she has an "Onlyfans" page way more successful than hers and they decide to team up.




Then there is Rebecca and Kimiko who don't have much content either. There's also Mallory and a lot of other girls to choose from. Then there could also be an evil sterling one like what if 3. Like if sterling creates an onlyfans account just to start making suggestions for Brenna and manages to convince Ophelia.


I don't even have a problem with ntr winning I have a problem with the scenarios being boring or repetitive. Really I'm mainly just pissed about what if 6 because in my opinion that Hunter Brenna sceinero that won shouldnt have been an option on the poll in the first place. If you are going to make an ntr option at least don't make one that we've pretty much already had in the main game and wasn't directly after another Brenna x Hunter what if. I mean come on I'm still upset about that 4 months later. 3 out of seven what ifs are Brenna x Hunter. I don't even understand why didn't just have Catharine instead. If you guys can't even come up with better scenarios than that I don't see the point in having what ifs at all.

I agree with the what if's being too much of one character it should definitely rotate or at least lock one girl out for the next 2 what ifs. The Hunter/sterling thing is, most of the top tier guys including myself enjoy hunter and since we don't see enough of him it's hard to do what ifs with sterling on top of sterling getting 90% of the games content already. The penny/brenna OF idea is not anymore interesting than the Lucia X old men what if and is way less interesting than the Kevin x Aliza and Amber what if. I do agree what ifs need to be more creative, like the Game show one that me and few others tried doing a while back, I think that one could have even had 2 endings good and bad ending so sterling or hunter could win.

 

[john984]

What if...? volume 1-6 as DLC
I've cooked up a little something for while we wait for "What If...? volume 7" to be released.

After much testing and tweaking I've made a new release, where I combine all 6 currently released "What if...?" stand-alone games into a fan-repacked DLC pack that integrate into the main game. A few people from the official Discord and I have already tested it thoroughly, so it should be bug-free.

Just remember to read the Readme.txt! (Especially the part about updating from my previous releases and required files.)

When you download it, please react to this post with (party-hat emoji), so I can see how widespread the interest is.
(MEGA doesn't display any stats for me.)

Download-link: Mega / G-drive

>> Minor edit: You need to rename these 2 files after extraction, if you downloaded the .7z-file before 27/03/2022:
\game\images\V9\wif06_5b.png -> wif06_05b.png
\game\images\V9\wif06_5c.png -> wif06_05c.png
\wif06_game\images\V9\wif06_5b.png -> wif06_05b.png
\wif06_game\images\V9\wif06_5c.png -> wif06_05c.png

Hii, does it work with the new chapter 10? I have the compressed version

 

[eltharion83]

Hi folks!
Is there an uncensored patch for Chapter 9? Or does the one for Chapter 10 work aswell?
Thanks in advance!

 

[たかしろ]

anyone know what futa VN game Lucia was playing at chapter 9? The one with the school setting

 

[.YungRoxas]

does anyone have save file for android version from ch9? i cba to play from beginning again