Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[Only1P]

Pretty sure this time it means grinding as in rubbing genitals on someone. That said, we did see grinding already with Ophelia pretending Sterling's cock was hers. And since anal is higher on the hierarchy than grinding, I'm hopeful that we'll get proper PiV in the next chapter.

Still the point about managing expectations is sound advice.

I wouldnt call it glorious, but yeah its probably gonna be good I mean WWG knows how to setup scenes and animate probably with hands behind his back by this point, every new scene that we get from him is gonna be good.
I will specify that in my comment I wanted to focus more on the expectations people set on the next chapter without actually paying attention to the details in the last. and for an individual that specifically expects/ is hopeful for some mommy PiV in the next chapter, I would advise "you better not" because your probably gonna get a hell of a lot more of these instead:

 

[Fayn Arawn]

I wouldnt call it glorious, but yeah its probably gonna be good I mean WWG knows how to setup scenes and animate probably with hands behind his back by this point, every new scene that we get from him is gonna be good.
I will specify that in my comment I wanted to focus more on the expectations people set on the next chapter without actually paying attention to the details in the last. and for an individual that specifically expects/ is hopeful for some mommy PiV in the next chapter, I would advise "you better not" because your probably gonna get a hell of a lot more of these instead:
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You might be right, but I don't think WWG will blueball us like other creators (e.g No More Money from RoyalCandy). Bear in mind there's been steady escalation with Ophelia (and the other women):

Chapter 1 - kissing
Chapter 2 - kissing w/ tongue; erection grabbing
Chapter 3 - erection teasing w/ ejaculation
Chapter 4 - wearing lingerie, dancing, showed breasts to trigger erection
Chapter 5 - purposefully caused erections; showed breasts to assist masturbation; handjob
Chapter 6 - topless handjob; using clone dildo; (accidental) ejaculation in her mouth; (accidental) ejaculation on her face; kissing while holding cock as he ejaculates
Chapter 7 - breast sucking; blowjob; wet panties
Chapter 8 - discusses possibility of sex after blackmail; handjob during breast sucking; orgasms from breast sucking; routine blowjobs; titfucking w/ facial and simultaneous orgasm
Chapter 9 - squirts in his face from massage; deepthroat/skullfuck; clit sucking to orgasm; face sitting; pussy & ass licking; titfuck blowjob
Chapter 10 - straddling/grinding & handjob; ass fingering; prone anal; doggystyle anal; tag-team blowjob; cowgirl anal (with an audience!)

... not to mention all the sexual conversations, encouragement, and innuendo, as well as times Ophelia walked in on Sterling having sex with someone else and she was mesmerized by him. The point is the momentum is increasing and I don't see how WWG could top chapter 10 without letting Sterling finally fuck her pussy. Wishful thinking, or educated guess?

 

[andy maxxx]

In the long run it won't matter at all how Hunter's scenes with any of the women in the household plays out, since Sterling will have just as much and more angles/length of scene(s).

I don't think so. With What Ifs being more frequent and development time for the main game taking longer with each version, I think Hunter scenes might surpass Sterling's by a hefty amount. Cuz What Ifs generally feature Hunter scenes than anything.

Also I don't think angles/length of scenes are actually fair to compare chapterwise because Sterling gets some with all the girls while Hunter got 1. The most boner killing moments for me were the dialogues, e.g:- squeal like a pig, gift cards argument etc. I know these are supposed to humorous but they kinda ruin the mood, well at least for me. Although I quite liked the scenes with Tiffany & Lucia probably because the dialogues in these had less weird jokes.

 

[E_nigma]

You might be right, but I don't think WWG will blueball us like other creators (e.g No More Money from RoyalCandy). Bear in mind there's been steady escalation with Ophelia (and the other women):

Chapter 1 - kissing
Chapter 2 - kissing w/ tongue; erection grabbing
Chapter 3 - erection teasing w/ ejaculation
Chapter 4 - wearing lingerie, dancing, showed breasts to trigger erection
Chapter 5 - purposefully caused erections; showed breasts to assist masturbation; handjob
Chapter 6 - topless handjob; using clone dildo; (accidental) ejaculation in her mouth; (accidental) ejaculation on her face; kissing while holding cock as he ejaculates
Chapter 7 - breast sucking; blowjob; wet panties
Chapter 8 - discusses possibility of sex after blackmail; handjob during breast sucking; orgasms from breast sucking; routine blowjobs; titfucking w/ facial and simultaneous orgasm
Chapter 9 - squirts in his face from massage; deepthroat/skullfuck; clit sucking to orgasm; face sitting; pussy & ass licking; titfuck blowjob
Chapter 10 - straddling/grinding & handjob; ass fingering; prone anal; doggystyle anal; tag-team blowjob; cowgirl anal (with an audience!)

... not to mention all the sexual conversations, encouragement, and innuendo, as well as times Ophelia walked in on Sterling having sex with someone else and she was mesmerized by him. The point is the momentum is increasing and I don't see how WWG could top chapter 10 without letting Sterling finally fuck her pussy. Wishful thinking, or educated guess?

I mean, this game started in 2019 and is just now finally starting to get main girl penetration, no more money is a little over a year old and has almost as many chapters and while there isn't the main girl stuff there yet it's a bit premature to say it blueballs. I mean I think I speak for a lot people when I say it's about time we get to the main event, I'd err on the side of educated guess since ugly bastard got her this time it follows a trend that next chapter sterling finally does

 

[ScareKing]

I don't think so. With What Ifs being more frequent and development time for the main game taking longer with each version, I think Hunter scenes might surpass Sterling's by a hefty amount. Cuz What Ifs generally feature Hunter scenes than anything.

Also I don't think angles/length of scenes are actually fair to compare chapterwise because Sterling gets some with all the girls while Hunter got 1. The most boner killing moments for me were the dialogues, e.g:- squeal like a pig, gift cards argument etc. I know these are supposed to humorous but they kinda ruin the mood, well at least for me. Although I quite liked the scenes with Tiffany & Lucia probably because the dialogues in these had less weird jokes.

What Ifs now will take longer to be ready, lets say that chapter 11 take 8 months to be release, 4 more What Ifs, how 4 scenes make Hunter got more scenes then MC? And i feel the same about the weird jokes but i just stop reading lol.

 

[E_nigma]

What Ifs now will take longer to be ready, lets say that chapter 11 take 8 months to be release, 4 more What Ifs, how 4 scenes make Hunter got more scenes then MC? And i feel the same about the weird jokes but i just stop reading lol.

Cause it'll be a repeat of the what like year straight of only ntr content. If what ifs are gonna be the only pv content til like january or w/e it's gonna be another wave of backlash over the appearance of impropriety

 

[Maestro91]

I don't think so. With What Ifs being more frequent and development time for the main game taking longer with each version, I think Hunter scenes might surpass Sterling's by a hefty amount. Cuz What Ifs generally feature Hunter scenes than anything.

Also I don't think angles/length of scenes are actually fair to compare chapterwise because Sterling gets some with all the girls while Hunter got 1. The most boner killing moments for me were the dialogues, e.g:- squeal like a pig, gift cards argument etc. I know these are supposed to humorous but they kinda ruin the mood, well at least for me. Although I quite liked the scenes with Tiffany & Lucia probably because the dialogues in these had less weird jokes.

I am talking about the main game.
The what ifs shouldn't matter to anyone. You are getting them literally for free and they have no bearing on the plot in the main story since they are, again, literally 'what ifs'.
If you want to see something specific in the what ifs then come up with a good suggestion and become a patron or give the idea to a patron if you don't want to pledge.


Comparing angles and scenes isn't even my argument, I was pandering to who I responded to to try to get people to see reason that share his views.
I don't give a shit how much content Hunter gets compared to the main character. To my mind it's all the same... Smut/filth/porn/etc... I have literally no preference over another when it comes to what kink gets represented in this game.

If you feel dedicated then play through the whole game and the what ifs and do a tally and see who has the most content.

I for one enjoy the humour in the game, the writing is well done and full of references to anything related to pop-culture. I never imagined that adult games and humor could work so good together like this without being super cringy. WWG has a vision and clearly has a pretty good idea of what he's doing.
If you have some critiques then my suggestion is make them constructive. Say what you wanna see and read instead of saying that you find the dialogue "boner-killing".
If the jokes are a problem to you then jerk off to the pretty pictures without reading them next time then. You must've really suffered till now since the jokes have been there from episode 1 and you've made it all the way to 10.

I am not trying to insult you, I am simply tired that people come on this thread and don't actually read more than what feels like three posts back before they come up with something to say, hence why I feel the need to vent every now and then.
A lot of the patrons on the discord wonder why some of us even bother correcting and writing anything here since almost no one seems to take anything constructive from it.

Edit:
sorco2003 Perfect example right here why the reaction system doesn't work, unless he comes up with a good arugment that is. Think the riddler will come up with something?

 

[Maestro91]

I mean, this game started in 2019 and is just now finally starting to get main girl penetration, no more money is a little over a year old and has almost as many chapters and while there isn't the main girl stuff there yet it's a bit premature to say it blueballs. I mean I think I speak for a lot people when I say it's about time we get to the main event, I'd err on the side of educated guess since ugly bastard got her this time it follows a trend that next chapter sterling finally does

Tell me riddler, how much content does NMM have compared to PV? how does the art compare? How exciting is the story and writing? Any sex scenes that stand out that you can think of right now that makes your dick tingle?

Cause it'll be a repeat of the what like year straight of only ntr content. If what ifs are gonna be the only pv content til like january or w/e it's gonna be another wave of backlash over the appearance of impropriety

I didn't realize I was talking to a psychic. I hope all this complaining of yours is actually warranted and you are infact a high pledger and are actively coming up with suggestions that you share on the what if posts. Otherwise this is just another case of a severe entitlement gone horribly wrong.

Whether it's the case or not, please come up with some good suggestions and post them here and if they're intriguing enough I give you my word right now that I'll post them when the next what if post comes around.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

The most boner killing moments for me were the dialogues, e.g:- squeal like a pig, gift cards argument etc. I know these are supposed to humorous but they kinda ruin the mood, well at least for me.

Honestly I get what you mean, about the gift card jokes at least. Sometimes when you want to focus on the sex it's distracting to read a conversation like that. On the other hand, I'd argue that conversation was natural because a lot of Aliza and Sterling's relationship is based on humor, and the jokes during sex was like a way for her to be more mentally comfortable with fucking him. That's how it came across to me anyway.

I mean, this game started in 2019 and is just now finally starting to get main girl penetration, no more money is a little over a year old and has almost as many chapters and while there isn't the main girl stuff there yet it's a bit premature to say it blueballs. I mean I think I speak for a lot people when I say it's about time we get to the main event, I'd err on the side of educated guess since ugly bastard got her this time it follows a trend that next chapter sterling finally does

That's fair. All I meant when comparing NMM was in that game the mom/son relationship is "hot and cold", which may be "realistic" but can be frustrating when progress is not increasing linearly. In PV the relationship gets hotter in each chapter. That's why I'm more confident in predicting vaginal sex with Ophelia, because we've come so far that anything else would be redundant or a de-escalation.

 

[andy maxxx]

What Ifs now will take longer to be ready, lets say that chapter 11 take 8 months to be release, 4 more What Ifs, how 4 scenes make Hunter got more scenes then MC? And i feel the same about the weird jokes but i just stop reading lol.

Sorry I forgot that What Ifs are bi monthly now. But as we see that recent What Ifs feature Hunter with main girls(Brenna and Ophelia) mostly. Upcoming ones will surely feature Hunter-Ophelia more than others. Now I haven't calculated and compared contents but Hunter might just(Once again I said might just") surpass Sterling regarding the scenes with Ophelia & Brenna. That's what what I meant.

The what ifs shouldn't matter to anyone. You are getting them literally for free and they have no bearing on the plot in the main story since they are, again, literally 'what ifs'.

The ntr scenes in the main games wouldn't matter either, because they are also non-canon. I was talking about content and who gets more but since it's all " Smut/filth/porn/etc... " to you, I don't think there's much to discuss about it you either since you are disregarding my opinion because I'm a pirate talking about the what ifs. So peace out.

You must've really suffered till now

Yes, life is suffering

 

[andy maxxx]

Honestly I get what you mean, about the gift card jokes at least. Sometimes when you want to focus on the sex it's distracting to read a conversation like that. On the other hand, I'd argue that conversation was natural because a lot of Aliza and Sterling's relationship is based on humor, and the jokes during sex was like a way for her to be more mentally comfortable with fucking him. That's how it came across to me anyway.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the humor during normal scenes (sometimes in the sex scenes also). But the gift cards dialogue was a bit too much for me lol. But yeah, your theory/explanation is sound with the mental comfortability thing.

 

[ScareKing]

Along with the responses from fayn

Yeah, all the scenes with Katrina. The game is ~3 years newer one would hope pv has more content. Why would I pledge at 20 dollars if history has shown the what ifs are gonna almost exclusively be ntr? Why would anyone but the ntr crowd since they've cannibalized the game and changed the focus it had back in 2019/2020?

What Ifs its voted by who pledge 20 dollars, if you dont want to see more NTR on it, become one of then and try to change that, complaing about it when you got it for free, makes your opinion matter as much as nothing.

 

[Maestro91]

Along with the responses from fayn

Yeah, all the scenes with Katrina. The game is ~3 years newer one would hope pv has more content. Why would I pledge at 20 dollars if history has shown the what ifs are gonna almost exclusively be ntr? Why would anyone but the ntr crowd since they've cannibalized the game and changed the focus it had back in 2019/2020?

Ngl, some good bones on some of these suggestions. Good one.

Now...
You're missing my point, it doesn't matter how much longer the game has been in development, This game just had it's 10th episode, NMM has 8.
Now I'm not trying to shame a dev, but how much more content is there in PVs 8 episodes compared to NMMs 8 episodes. And all my other questions.

And now you're starting to lose me again, and grip on reality. Every runner up in the what if votes has had some forms of what you could call vanilla story, where were all the vanilla fans when those were on the block? Not voting that's for sure.
And that is a really, really poor point you're trying to make there at the end, and half of it's not even true.

It's the american election ffs. "Why should I vote democrat if republicans are gonna win anyway? Stupid, utter shite.

What do you even mean when you say the ntr crowd have "cannibalized" the game?

Changed the focus? That it had?
No-one has changed anything about anything,I repeat again, what WWG has repeated before: "The story has been laid out as it is from the start, everything happening has been planned", I am of course paraphrasing, but it's the gist of it.


The first episode is completely the same as it's current last episode. Apart from the set up of the story and the amount of scenes and characters we started with Hunter having bad ends and Sterling intervening coming out on top at the end of it all.

Same thing is happening now and has been so every episode.

That you can't seem to get that into your head is on you.

Edit:
I wonder how many times you're gonna change your signature before you think it's gonna fit your narrative...

"People are allowed to criticize things you like, it's the internet sweetie."

Yes, you are free to criticise things people like, But they are also free to respond back when all your arguments make no sense and point out that your bias has rotted your brain enough that you can't comprehend simple facts.

 

[Damneddaniel]

I know that E. Nigma is the name of the Riddler, but every time I read the new updates of this thread and see the arguements it is super funny to see you talk to the Riddler. Which begs the question, if Batman were real, what what if would he propose?

 

[ScareKing]

Ngl, some good bones on some of these suggestions. Good one.

Now...
You're missing my point, it doesn't matter how much longer the game has been in development, This game just had it's 10th episode, NMM has 8.
Now I'm not trying to shame a dev, but how much more content is there in PVs 8 episodes compared to NMMs 8 episodes. And all my other questions.

And now you're starting to lose me again, and grip on reality. Every runner up in the what if votes has had some forms of what you could call vanilla story, where were all the vanilla fans when those were on the block? Not voting that's for sure.
And that is a really, really poor point you're trying to make there at the end, and half of it's not even true.

It's the american election ffs. "Why should I vote democrat if republicans are gonna win anyway? Stupid, utter shite.

What do you even mean when you say the ntr crowd have "cannibalized" the game?

Changed the focus? That it had?
No-one has changed anything about anything,I repeat again, what WWG has repeated before: "The story has been laid out as it is from the start, everything happening has been planned", I am of course paraphrasing, but it's the gist of it.


The first episode is completely the same as it's current last episode. Apart from the set up of the story and the amount of scenes and characters we started with Hunter having bad ends and Sterling intervening coming out on top at the end of it all.

Same thing is happening now and has been so every episode.

That you can't seem to get that into your head is on you.

Edit:
I wonder how many times you're gonna change your signature before you think it's gonna fit your narrative...

"People are allowed to criticize things you like, it's the internet sweetie."

Yes, you are free to criticise things people like, But they are also free to respond back when all your arguments make no sense and point out that your bias has rotted your brain enough that you can't comprehend simple facts.

Lol, i just notice hes signature, i remember hes using one that say NTR are garbage or something like that, i guess hes got change after WWG say something about it. And this thread got block once because some people was crying to much about NTR in What Ifs, i wonder how long thoses dude are going to keep repeating the same senseless argument.

 

[I_Only_Support_Real_Onez]

Drew will NOT be in the harem. Drew is NOT an ally. Drew is planning to fuck every female and share them with Hunter. That's why he's there. Drew will never be the good guy. Everyone who thinks he is, doesn't get that's how he gets his women. Drew looks all innocent, right until he slips his big dick in. It's even said in-game that he's not a bottom, so why do you think he could ever be part of the harem?

That is until Sterling busts Drew wide open Flipping her/him to a bottom. At least hoping Sterling gets a little payback for his dad being his uncle/aunts bitch

 

[sorco2003]

I am talking about the main game.
The what ifs shouldn't matter to anyone. You are getting them literally for free and they have no bearing on the plot in the main story since they are, again, literally 'what ifs'.
If you want to see something specific in the what ifs then come up with a good suggestion and become a patron or give the idea to a patron if you don't want to pledge.


Comparing angles and scenes isn't even my argument, I was pandering to who I responded to to try to get people to see reason that share his views.
I don't give a shit how much content Hunter gets compared to the main character. To my mind it's all the same... Smut/filth/porn/etc... I have literally no preference over another when it comes to what kink gets represented in this game.

If you feel dedicated then play through the whole game and the what ifs and do a tally and see who has the most content.

I for one enjoy the humour in the game, the writing is well done and full of references to anything related to pop-culture. I never imagined that adult games and humor could work so good together like this without being super cringy. WWG has a vision and clearly has a pretty good idea of what he's doing.
If you have some critiques then my suggestion is make them constructive. Say what you wanna see and read instead of saying that you find the dialogue "boner-killing".
If the jokes are a problem to you then jerk off to the pretty pictures without reading them next time then. You must've really suffered till now since the jokes have been there from episode 1 and you've made it all the way to 10.

I am not trying to insult you, I am simply tired that people come on this thread and don't actually read more than what feels like three posts back before they come up with something to say, hence why I feel the need to vent every now and then.
A lot of the patrons on the discord wonder why some of us even bother correcting and writing anything here since almost no one seems to take anything constructive from it.

Edit:
sorco2003 Perfect example right here why the reaction system doesn't work, unless he comes up with a good arugment that is. Think the riddler will come up with something?

Quite the contrary my dear, how many have stretched an issue that should not even have been started? How many have replied to it in the space of one page making the issue now go on for two pages?
It just goes to show that no one is willing to pass up a single opportunity to answer and stretch issues that are not worth stretching.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

Which begs the question, if Batman were real, what what if would he propose?

What if Sterling's parents both died when he was a child, and Hunter was his butler?

That is until Sterling busts Drew wide open Flipping her/him to a bottom. At least hoping Sterling gets a little payback for his dad being his uncle/aunts bitch

I wonder if something like this would happen. It seems dependent on several things including whether WWG would even want to depict it, and whether Sterling would want to do it. I don't know if Sterling would have any sexual interest in Drew, and based on how much Sterling hated his dad, it doesn't look like he would care about "avenging" him in any way.

 

[SuddenReal]

based on how much Sterling hated his dad, it doesn't look like he would care about "avenging" him in any way.

Exactly, and if I recall correctly, when Sterling found out, all understanding towards his father he got after reading his father's letter went out the window and he got back to hating his old man.

 

[I_Only_Support_Real_Onez]

I wonder if something like this would happen. It seems dependent on several things including whether WWG would even want to depict it, and whether Sterling would want to do it. I don't know if Sterling would have any sexual interest in Drew, and based on how much Sterling hated his dad, it doesn't look like he would care about "avenging" him in any way.

It probably wont happen but it would be funny. I mean he's almost destroyed Hunter by Looney Tunes means already and the look on hunters messed up face walking in on Drew being destroyed by sterling would be epic.