Ren'Py Abandoned Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[ScareKing]

Along with the responses from fayn

Yeah, all the scenes with Katrina. The game is ~3 years newer one would hope pv has more content. Why would I pledge at 20 dollars if history has shown the what ifs are gonna almost exclusively be ntr? Why would anyone but the ntr crowd since they've cannibalized the game and changed the focus it had back in 2019/2020?

What Ifs its voted by who pledge 20 dollars, if you dont want to see more NTR on it, become one of then and try to change that, complaing about it when you got it for free, makes your opinion matter as much as nothing.

 

[Maestro91]

Along with the responses from fayn

Yeah, all the scenes with Katrina. The game is ~3 years newer one would hope pv has more content. Why would I pledge at 20 dollars if history has shown the what ifs are gonna almost exclusively be ntr? Why would anyone but the ntr crowd since they've cannibalized the game and changed the focus it had back in 2019/2020?

Ngl, some good bones on some of these suggestions. Good one.

Now...
You're missing my point, it doesn't matter how much longer the game has been in development, This game just had it's 10th episode, NMM has 8.
Now I'm not trying to shame a dev, but how much more content is there in PVs 8 episodes compared to NMMs 8 episodes. And all my other questions.

And now you're starting to lose me again, and grip on reality. Every runner up in the what if votes has had some forms of what you could call vanilla story, where were all the vanilla fans when those were on the block? Not voting that's for sure.
And that is a really, really poor point you're trying to make there at the end, and half of it's not even true.

It's the american election ffs. "Why should I vote democrat if republicans are gonna win anyway? Stupid, utter shite.

What do you even mean when you say the ntr crowd have "cannibalized" the game?

Changed the focus? That it had?
No-one has changed anything about anything,I repeat again, what WWG has repeated before: "The story has been laid out as it is from the start, everything happening has been planned", I am of course paraphrasing, but it's the gist of it.


The first episode is completely the same as it's current last episode. Apart from the set up of the story and the amount of scenes and characters we started with Hunter having bad ends and Sterling intervening coming out on top at the end of it all.

Same thing is happening now and has been so every episode.

That you can't seem to get that into your head is on you.

Edit:
I wonder how many times you're gonna change your signature before you think it's gonna fit your narrative...

"People are allowed to criticize things you like, it's the internet sweetie."

Yes, you are free to criticise things people like, But they are also free to respond back when all your arguments make no sense and point out that your bias has rotted your brain enough that you can't comprehend simple facts.

 

[Damneddaniel]

I know that E. Nigma is the name of the Riddler, but every time I read the new updates of this thread and see the arguements it is super funny to see you talk to the Riddler. Which begs the question, if Batman were real, what what if would he propose?

 

[ScareKing]

Ngl, some good bones on some of these suggestions. Good one.

Now...
You're missing my point, it doesn't matter how much longer the game has been in development, This game just had it's 10th episode, NMM has 8.
Now I'm not trying to shame a dev, but how much more content is there in PVs 8 episodes compared to NMMs 8 episodes. And all my other questions.

And now you're starting to lose me again, and grip on reality. Every runner up in the what if votes has had some forms of what you could call vanilla story, where were all the vanilla fans when those were on the block? Not voting that's for sure.
And that is a really, really poor point you're trying to make there at the end, and half of it's not even true.

It's the american election ffs. "Why should I vote democrat if republicans are gonna win anyway? Stupid, utter shite.

What do you even mean when you say the ntr crowd have "cannibalized" the game?

Changed the focus? That it had?
No-one has changed anything about anything,I repeat again, what WWG has repeated before: "The story has been laid out as it is from the start, everything happening has been planned", I am of course paraphrasing, but it's the gist of it.


The first episode is completely the same as it's current last episode. Apart from the set up of the story and the amount of scenes and characters we started with Hunter having bad ends and Sterling intervening coming out on top at the end of it all.

Same thing is happening now and has been so every episode.

That you can't seem to get that into your head is on you.

Edit:
I wonder how many times you're gonna change your signature before you think it's gonna fit your narrative...

"People are allowed to criticize things you like, it's the internet sweetie."

Yes, you are free to criticise things people like, But they are also free to respond back when all your arguments make no sense and point out that your bias has rotted your brain enough that you can't comprehend simple facts.

Lol, i just notice hes signature, i remember hes using one that say NTR are garbage or something like that, i guess hes got change after WWG say something about it. And this thread got block once because some people was crying to much about NTR in What Ifs, i wonder how long thoses dude are going to keep repeating the same senseless argument.

 

[I_Only_Support_Real_Onez]

Drew will NOT be in the harem. Drew is NOT an ally. Drew is planning to fuck every female and share them with Hunter. That's why he's there. Drew will never be the good guy. Everyone who thinks he is, doesn't get that's how he gets his women. Drew looks all innocent, right until he slips his big dick in. It's even said in-game that he's not a bottom, so why do you think he could ever be part of the harem?

That is until Sterling busts Drew wide open Flipping her/him to a bottom. At least hoping Sterling gets a little payback for his dad being his uncle/aunts bitch

 

[sorco2003]

I am talking about the main game.
The what ifs shouldn't matter to anyone. You are getting them literally for free and they have no bearing on the plot in the main story since they are, again, literally 'what ifs'.
If you want to see something specific in the what ifs then come up with a good suggestion and become a patron or give the idea to a patron if you don't want to pledge.


Comparing angles and scenes isn't even my argument, I was pandering to who I responded to to try to get people to see reason that share his views.
I don't give a shit how much content Hunter gets compared to the main character. To my mind it's all the same... Smut/filth/porn/etc... I have literally no preference over another when it comes to what kink gets represented in this game.

If you feel dedicated then play through the whole game and the what ifs and do a tally and see who has the most content.

I for one enjoy the humour in the game, the writing is well done and full of references to anything related to pop-culture. I never imagined that adult games and humor could work so good together like this without being super cringy. WWG has a vision and clearly has a pretty good idea of what he's doing.
If you have some critiques then my suggestion is make them constructive. Say what you wanna see and read instead of saying that you find the dialogue "boner-killing".
If the jokes are a problem to you then jerk off to the pretty pictures without reading them next time then. You must've really suffered till now since the jokes have been there from episode 1 and you've made it all the way to 10.

I am not trying to insult you, I am simply tired that people come on this thread and don't actually read more than what feels like three posts back before they come up with something to say, hence why I feel the need to vent every now and then.
A lot of the patrons on the discord wonder why some of us even bother correcting and writing anything here since almost no one seems to take anything constructive from it.

Edit:
sorco2003 Perfect example right here why the reaction system doesn't work, unless he comes up with a good arugment that is. Think the riddler will come up with something?

Quite the contrary my dear, how many have stretched an issue that should not even have been started? How many have replied to it in the space of one page making the issue now go on for two pages?
It just goes to show that no one is willing to pass up a single opportunity to answer and stretch issues that are not worth stretching.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

Which begs the question, if Batman were real, what what if would he propose?

What if Sterling's parents both died when he was a child, and Hunter was his butler?

That is until Sterling busts Drew wide open Flipping her/him to a bottom. At least hoping Sterling gets a little payback for his dad being his uncle/aunts bitch

I wonder if something like this would happen. It seems dependent on several things including whether WWG would even want to depict it, and whether Sterling would want to do it. I don't know if Sterling would have any sexual interest in Drew, and based on how much Sterling hated his dad, it doesn't look like he would care about "avenging" him in any way.

 

[SuddenReal]

based on how much Sterling hated his dad, it doesn't look like he would care about "avenging" him in any way.

Exactly, and if I recall correctly, when Sterling found out, all understanding towards his father he got after reading his father's letter went out the window and he got back to hating his old man.

 

[I_Only_Support_Real_Onez]

I wonder if something like this would happen. It seems dependent on several things including whether WWG would even want to depict it, and whether Sterling would want to do it. I don't know if Sterling would have any sexual interest in Drew, and based on how much Sterling hated his dad, it doesn't look like he would care about "avenging" him in any way.

It probably wont happen but it would be funny. I mean he's almost destroyed Hunter by Looney Tunes means already and the look on hunters messed up face walking in on Drew being destroyed by sterling would be epic.

 

[storm1105]

What if Sterling's parents both died when he was a child, and Hunter was his butler?

This is actually a better what if suggestion than most of the ones we get.

 

[DD69-1]

But the dev already replied to your post about Sterling's scene with Ophelia vs Hunter's. It was Hunter's single scene in the whole episode and he wanted to make it entertaining.
Meanwhile Sterling had the whole rest of the house to himself -Minus Tiff that also had a scene with Drew- so there's not really any discrepancy between bad end and canon story.
In the long run it won't matter at all how Hunter's scenes with any of the women in the household plays out, since Sterling will have just as much and more angles/length of scene(s).

Yeah, was talking specifically in terms of angles & scene length, Hunter's scene was long & had more angles compared to the sterlings & ophelia's night scene.. the argument that it was one scene... fact is that had more angles & screen time for Hunter+Ophelia compared to Night scenes for Sterling [where he got only angle] that's what I pointed out earlier as well, in dev's quest to make the Hunter's scene more interesting it turned out more amazing than the Sterling scene that's what I'm getting at, when you weigh it like that it doesn't balance... not talking about future updates here, because I don't know what's gonna happen then... only chapter 10 as of now

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[Maestro91]

I know that E. Nigma is the name of the Riddler, but every time I read the new updates of this thread and see the arguements it is super funny to see you talk to the Riddler. Which begs the question, if Batman were real, what what if would he propose?

What if my parents were alive?

 

[Deleted member 4887608]

What if my parents were alive?

Ask for a refund from the condom manufacturer?

 

[E_nigma]

This is actually a better what if suggestion than most of the ones we get.

I mean yeah, idea well is dry cause the only ideas that make it are all suggested by and voted for by the same people. The likely hood of an all original and unique what if at this point is infinitesimal as long as it's the same people voting and coming up with ideas.

 

[Fuxxzz]

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I mean yeah, idea well is dry cause the only ideas that make it are all suggested by and voted for by the same people. The likely hood of an all original and unique what if at this point is infinitesimal as long as it's the same people voting and coming up with ideas.

Your choice is futa and it's second right now so maybe if you insist a bit more, it can get to win the next time :^)

 

[E_nigma]

Your choice is futa and it's second right now so maybe if you insist a bit more, it can get to win the next time :^)

It's a screenshot of a screenshot, but not holding my breath either way

 

[john984]

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I mean yeah, idea well is dry cause the only ideas that make it are all suggested by and voted for by the same people. The likely hood of an all original and unique what if at this point is infinitesimal as long as it's the same people voting and coming up with ideas.

Can you share the detailed options? Thanks in advance.

 

[criestoomuch]

I know that E. Nigma is the name of the Riddler, but every time I read the new updates of this thread and see the arguements it is super funny to see you talk to the Riddler. Which begs the question, if Batman were real, what what if would he propose?

I think he'd be too busy doing a real life reenactment with himself as Sterling and Alfred as Hunter to worry about coming up with What If scenarios. At least that's what I'd do if I had Bruce Wayne money. I wouldn't film it. And I'd skip the dick breaking scene entirely.

In all seriousness I think he would find porn disgusting.

 

[drpavelcia]

In all seriousness I think he would find porn disgusting.

No, he'd find it a waste of time. He has to be fighting crime or training to fight crime.
Or banging supermodels.

 

[genericplant]

Played through the first chapter of this game and to be honest I'm a bit bored already, I don't know if I'll continue.

My question is about the NTR aspect with the (ugly af) grandpa. In the first chapter its basically: "choose the wrong option once and everything goes from 0 to 100 and you loose, choose right and you will never have to worry about it again".

is this gameplay element the same all through the game? It seems a bit dumb as of now, with no gradual loss, everything just comes down to one single choice and we never get to see the old man slowly corrupting the family as the MC race to get there before him.