dartred

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Ehm....

WHAT IF #1 -> NTR
WHAT IF #2 -> NTR
WHAT IF #3 -> Vanilla
WHAT IF #4 -> NTR
WHAT IF #5 -> NTR
WHAT IF #6 -> NTR
WHAT IF #7 -> NTR
WHAT IF #8 -> NTR

It seems that the "mandatoy rule" wasn't mandatory xD
It was lifted after what if 4 or 5, so the next vanilla that was mandatory was instead replaced by whatever the community wanted and yeah, NTR won.
 

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As someone who is not a fan of NTR, my only disappointment is that we didn't get a scene where MC does Ophelia from behind while she rails another girl.
I would have done a rage ass-fuck when Ophelia took Sterling's place in fucking Aliza, leave her unconscious for too much cumming and then leave the house for good.
 

d_pedestrian

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Anyway the What If Episodes are not really NTR to me anyway..
That's what dev is doing. He is keeping NTR guys happy by giving NTR what ifs every month and at the same time keeping non NTR guys happy by hiding behind the excuse of non canon.

All I'm saying is those small votes should let dev know that there are people who want non NTR what ifs and he shouldn't neglect them since they are also supporting.
 

yourmomma

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Well, yes, they are strangers and cannibals, so you can expect such behaviour (from Hunter as well).
Ophelia is his mom, and yet she didn't give a fuck about her son's feelings at all, she was even proud of herself, yes one can blame the side effect of pill, but still..... that's why I found more "cruel" this over that.
Bro,
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You have a funny sense of cruelty as well as a bizarre emotional attachment to Sterling's well being.
 
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dartred

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That's what dev is doing. He is keeping NTR guys happy by giving NTR what ifs every month and at the same time keeping non NTR guys happy by hiding behind the excuse of non canon.

All I'm saying is those small votes should let dev know that there are people who want non NTR what ifs and he shouldn't neglect them since they are also supporting.
This is false information. The community decided the what if we get. It gets suggested by the community and voted by the community. Dev only develops it, but he doesn't choose the one to make. He is keeping the majority of his paying costumers happy. The paying majority is NTR, so yeah, in that way he is keeping them happy.

But again, Dev doesn't just create NTR what ifs because he feels like it, but because we are the ones suggesting and voting for it.
 

yourmomma

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I would have stopped supporting him if I were in your place, let alone be one of his highest tier supporters.

You guys are seriously getting sidelined every month and you get the final game after waiting for months. You guys should really be vocal about things.

There should be alternate NTR and non NTR what ifs because even though non NTR votes are less these votes still mean something. Developer ignoring your votes and not giving you guys anything between main updates just shows that he don't really give a fuck about you non NTR folks.

I know that dev should try to earn as much as he can but you should also put your money where you and your opinion is valued.
Apperantly you don't understand how voting works. It's not a please everyone mechanism. Majority rules. Period.
 

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So the minority paying costumers should just fuck off? They don't mean shit? They shouldn't get ANYTHING? It's fair to sideline them?
Um yeah, thats basically how "majority rules" works, the majority liking get slut Ophelia, pregnant Ophelia, even Ophelia with a dick, while the others get "Maybe next year, No promises tho!"
 
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dartred

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So the minority paying costumers should just fuck off? They don't mean shit? They shouldn't get ANYTHING? It's fair to sideline them?
That's how voting works, like the guy two post above me said. What do you want dev to do? Make 2 what ifs? For a minority and the people who pirate the game? Then you have a real reason to cry that what ifs cut into development time.

If you say force the every once in a while it has to be a Vanilla, then you might lose pledges those months. You would be asking the dev to again, cut his finances to please a minority.
 
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So the minority paying costumers should just fuck off? They don't mean shit? They shouldn't get ANYTHING? It's fair to sideline them?
Apperantly you don't understand how voting works. It's not a please everyone mechanism. Majority rules. Period.
It seems a lot of people who voted against "futa Ophelia" were still entertained by it, I've only seen a few that vehemently disliked it. When your choice doesn't win, but you end up enjoying the winner anyway, it feels like less of a personal defeat. That being said, if enough supporters feel strongly about it, perhaps a compromise could be found. Simply saying "the majority rules" is foolish if a large enough minority decides to withdraw support.

EDIT: Also it should be noted that while "futa Ophelia" won the last poll, it was only by simple majority and was the closest result thus far: 47% vs 42% vs 12% (rounded). Viewed this way, the majority actually voted against "futa Ophelia".
 
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Apperantly you don't understand how voting works. It's not a please everyone mechanism. Majority rules. Period.
Um yeah, thats basically how "majority rules" works, the majority liking get slut Ophelia, pregnant Ophelia, even Ophelia with a dick, while the others get "Maybe next year, No promises tho!"
That's how voting works, like the guy two post above me said. What do you want dev to do? Make 2 what ifs? For a minority and the people who pirate the game? Then you have a real reason to cry that what ifs cut into development time.

If you say force the every once in a while it has to be a Vanilla, then you might lose pledges those months. You would be asking the dev to again, cut his finances to please a minority.
Non NTR fans might as well stop supporting him or go to smaller tier if they REALLY want to support him even after all this.

If these minority voters decide to stop supporting it will still result in loss. Therefore 'Majority votes only' logic doesn't really apply here since his aim is to keep everyone around.
 

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Non NTR fans might as well stop supporting him or go to smaller tier if they REALLY want to support him even after all this.

If these minority voters decide to stop supporting it will still result in loss. Therefore 'Majority votes only' logic doesn't really apply here since his aim is to keep everyone around.
This has been the way for over a year now. It's not like it just happened recently. They are still their supporting the tier because that tier supports the dev the most. They might not even be at that tierr for the what ifs. Like hypnosoul said, he doesn't like NTR but he's pledged at the highest tier.

Yet you are here pirating the game and telling people to stop supporting. Who are you to tell others how to spend their money when you don't.
 
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yourmomma

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Non NTR fans might as well stop supporting him or go to smaller tier if they REALLY want to support him even after all this.

If these minority voters decide to stop supporting it will still result in loss. Therefore 'Majority votes only' logic doesn't really apply here since his aim is to keep everyone around.
I see you're really struggling with the concept of voting and how it works. Your infantile and entitled outburst are noted, though.
 

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So, I don't really have a dog in the fight because I pitched in at a low tier and only for a few months. But why all the alternative content anyway? I stopped supporting because of the what if content coming out to begin with. If the main game has a NTR switch just add main game content, right? Then everyone is happy anyway. Also, doesn't the What if content just slow down main game development? Super dingy when it comes to this stuff and don't want to disrespect anyone, just straight-up curious.
 

yourmomma

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So, I don't really have a dog in the fight because I pitched in at a low tier and only for a few months. But why all the alternative content anyway? I stopped supporting because of the what if content coming out to begin with. If the main game has a NTR switch just add main game content, right? Then everyone is happy anyway. Also, doesn't the What if content just slow down main game development? Super dingy when it comes to this stuff and don't want to disrespect anyone, just straight-up curious.
The Dev has already explained he sets aside a certain amount of time each day for the main story line and works on the " What Ifs " on the side for a lot less time. The "What Ifs " are just a fun side project to keep excitement for the main game alive. That do not cut into the main game development or cannon.

I'm beginning to find the controversy surrounding the " What Ifs " as hilarious. It's really not that big of a deal. Quite frankly I enjoy them and even more so now knowing how many people get senselessly butthurt over them.

Lucky for you guys I have the day off and I'm getting wildly entertained by all of this. So I'm camping out here licking up all the delicious tears.
 
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