yourmomma

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Non NTR fans might as well stop supporting him or go to smaller tier if they REALLY want to support him even after all this.

If these minority voters decide to stop supporting it will still result in loss. Therefore 'Majority votes only' logic doesn't really apply here since his aim is to keep everyone around.
I see you're really struggling with the concept of voting and how it works. Your infantile and entitled outburst are noted, though.
 

jws_tex

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So, I don't really have a dog in the fight because I pitched in at a low tier and only for a few months. But why all the alternative content anyway? I stopped supporting because of the what if content coming out to begin with. If the main game has a NTR switch just add main game content, right? Then everyone is happy anyway. Also, doesn't the What if content just slow down main game development? Super dingy when it comes to this stuff and don't want to disrespect anyone, just straight-up curious.
 

yourmomma

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So, I don't really have a dog in the fight because I pitched in at a low tier and only for a few months. But why all the alternative content anyway? I stopped supporting because of the what if content coming out to begin with. If the main game has a NTR switch just add main game content, right? Then everyone is happy anyway. Also, doesn't the What if content just slow down main game development? Super dingy when it comes to this stuff and don't want to disrespect anyone, just straight-up curious.
The Dev has already explained he sets aside a certain amount of time each day for the main story line and works on the " What Ifs " on the side for a lot less time. The "What Ifs " are just a fun side project to keep excitement for the main game alive. That do not cut into the main game development or cannon.

I'm beginning to find the controversy surrounding the " What Ifs " as hilarious. It's really not that big of a deal. Quite frankly I enjoy them and even more so now knowing how many people get senselessly butthurt over them.

Lucky for you guys I have the day off and I'm getting wildly entertained by all of this. So I'm camping out here licking up all the delicious tears.
 

QuantumVNs

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Also, doesn't the What if content just slow down main game development?
As yourmomma said, the dev says the What If's are basically like a side project for him, and time spent on them would otherwise be put into non-game stuff.
From my perspective, making a game is a creative pursuit, and without a little distraction you can easily lose interest in the project or even burn out from being too single minded in a limited box. The What If's give the dev the opportunity to play around the world without the time investment needed for quality writing and cohesive story (which IMO is what separates Power Vacuum from most games in the genre). Plus it allows the dev to create and share new renders and animations, honing his own skills, giving us more to fap to, and improving the main game product.
I'm sure you'd agree that if WWG were to bust out more frequent main game updates with mundane writing and sloppy, generic animations it would be a net negative from the fappers perspective.
 

dartred

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So, I don't really have a dog in the fight because I pitched in at a low tier and only for a few months. But why all the alternative content anyway? I stopped supporting because of the what if content coming out to begin with. If the main game has a NTR switch just add main game content, right? Then everyone is happy anyway. Also, doesn't the What if content just slow down main game development? Super dingy when it comes to this stuff and don't want to disrespect anyone, just straight-up curious.
No one is answer this guys question. He's asking why the what ifs exist.

To put it simply, the Dev wanted to do more for the $20 tier to separate it from the other tiers. Before that, it was just getting the beta build a few days earlier. He did this to give his supporters more. He didn't have too and yet people who don't even pay, attack him for it. He could have been like many of the other patreon's that just give you the game a little early or a few pictures a month. Hell, WWG gives up to 7 pictures every 10 days. I've seen some devs that give you 1 or 3 pictures a month as a "status update".

people have to remember that the $20 tier what ifs is a "thank you" thing he does for people.
 
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herreraaa

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Being honest here, I really dont like the what if series, so I simply dont gownload it.
In the main game I could see NTR scenes were more elaborated, BUT on normal(vanilla?) rouye, everything is fine.
CH10 was magnificent for vaniilla lovers.
Sterling took 3 virginities(maybe 4, dunno if Ophelia ass was virgin)
Had 2 3somes
Discovered that asian mom husband is a cuckold.
Hotel girl will be fucked soon.
Cat will start help Sterling to "build" his family harem.

So in resume, no NTR plkayers should focus only in the main game.
 

Fayn Arawn

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CH10 was magnificent for vaniilla lovers.
Sterling took 3 virginities(maybe 4, dunno if Ophelia ass was virgin)
Ophelia's done anal before, but Sterling still took 4 virginities:

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He's doing pretty well for himself, in spite of arguments to the contrary!
 

ScareKing

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BTB has the voting for the next What If begun?
The next one will be release after Ch 11, so i believe dev probably its going to wait to make a voting because Ch 11 should give more options, like full sex with Ophelia and maybe some threesome between family.
 

MrJay

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The non-NTR path should completely delete the grandfather from the game. He's completely non-essential to the game and just ruins the rest of the content by appearing every so often. As a pure harem game experience, it's objectively detrimental to have a character like that.

That or just let us murder him already. As soon as he touched one of the girls he should've been dogmeat.
 

dartred

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The non-NTR path should completely delete the grandfather from the game. He's completely non-essential to the game and just ruins the rest of the content by appearing every so often. As a pure harem game experience, it's objectively detrimental to have a character like that.

That or just let us murder him already. As soon as he touched one of the girls he should've been dogmeat.
The dev said before that Hunter IS essential to the game's story. He was the driving force that put Sterling on the road to his harem and the body he has now lol. This story without a villain would be so bland.
 

ScareKing

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The non-NTR path should completely delete the grandfather from the game. He's completely non-essential to the game and just ruins the rest of the content by appearing every so often. As a pure harem game experience, it's objectively detrimental to have a character like that.

That or just let us murder him already. As soon as he touched one of the girls he should've been dogmeat.
Are you playing on skip mode? If Hunter didn't exist, MC would be a short skinny boy and all the girls in the family would fuck other guys, just pay attention to the story, hes the reason why MC fuck everyone.
 

Fayn Arawn

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The non-NTR path should completely delete the grandfather from the game. He's completely non-essential to the game and just ruins the rest of the content by appearing every so often. As a pure harem game experience, it's objectively detrimental to have a character like that.

That or just let us murder him already. As soon as he touched one of the girls he should've been dogmeat.
Let's see what happens if Hunter wasn't in the game:
  • The family loses their house because Hunter doesn't help with the payments.
  • Sterling stays short and skinny because Hunter doesn't give him growth hormones.
  • Sterling and the girls don't have sex because their inhibitions are not removed by Hunter's chemicals.
However, now that he's served his purpose, I look forward to Hunter's ultimate defeat.
 

MrJay

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The dev said before that Hunter IS essential to the game's story. He was the driving force that put Sterling on the road to his harem and the body he has now lol. This story without a villain would be so bland.
The exact same story gets told in every way that matters without some ugly crusty disgusting burn victim showing up every so often and getting near the girls.

In fact that character objectively isn't necessary at all, pretending like a simple rewrite where everything that happens because of the grandfather simply happens because of something else would be impossible is truly weird to me. Such a rewrite would be trivial.

The only reason to defend that character is if you explicitly want him there, want to look at that character and want to see him near the girls. OK, if that's your kink, fair enough, but save it for the NTR path. The character absolutely isn't essential in any other way.

At the very least be honest. Say that you actively want the grandfather there and that you enjoy the scenes when he's on screen and looming over the girls. Because if you don't feel that way, there's no reason for you to defend his existence.

Are you playing on skip mode? If Hunter didn't exist, MC would be a short skinny boy and all the girls in the family would fuck other guys, just pay attention to the story, hes the reason why MC fuck everyone.
And again, that exact same series of events could unfold without having to shove a puke-inducing turd of a grandfather in my face. In fact, the exact same series of events could unfold without a grandfather at all. Like all you need is 0.000001% imagination and you can come up with another way to explain everything. The ONLY reason to do it THIS SPECIFIC WAY, is if you like having the grandfather around. If you don't like that, you shouldn't be advocating for his character.

Let's see what happens if Hunter wasn't in the game:
  • The family loses their house because Hunter doesn't help with the payments.
  • Sterling stays short and skinny because Hunter doesn't give him growth hormones.
  • Sterling and the girls don't have sex because their inhibitions are not removed by Hunter's chemicals.
However, now that he's served his purpose, I look forward to Hunter's ultimate defeat.
There are a million different things that could happen that would fix the payments, or let the family move.

Do you honestly believe that grandfather is the only person in the entire world that has access to those growth hormones and there is no remote possibility of someone getting them from him in some other way even if that were the case? No, of course not.

See above but with chemicals. Or it happens some other way.


I'm so confused, I genuinely don't understand how you think? I'm not even trying to be mean, I'm just genuinely super confused. Do you REALLY believe that these events could only ever happen in this specific way? Have you NEVER seen a story and gone "Nah, this would be much better if they did it this other way instead"?? I... don't understand. It's like you've all assumed that everything written in the story could only ever have been written the way that they are, or not at all. Or what am I missing? Because we all know that fiction can be written in literally any way whatsoever, right? And that any part of a story that's bad can, and in fact SHOULD, just be removed. There's no such thing as a truly bad part of a story that is necessary to have the good parts. No, bad parts are just bad and could simply either be removed or replaced by good parts.

Again, the only reason for anyone to defend the grandfather character is if they genuinely enjoy him being there. To which I say; keep him around in the NTR path. For a pure harem route, which the non-NTR path supposedly is, a pseudo-NTR character lurking around is just truly bad.
 

Fayn Arawn

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I'm so confused, I genuinely don't understand how you think? I'm not even trying to be mean, I'm just genuinely super confused. Do you REALLY believe that these events could only ever happen in this specific way? Have you NEVER seen a story and gone "Nah, this would be much better if they did it this other way instead"?? I... don't understand. It's like you've all assumed that everything written in the story could only ever have been written the way that they are, or not at all. Or what am I missing? Because we all know that fiction can be written in literally any way whatsoever, right? And that any part of a story that's bad can, and in fact SHOULD, just be removed. There's no such thing as a truly bad part of a story that is necessary to have the good parts. No, bad parts are just bad and could simply either be removed or replaced by good parts.

Again, the only reason for anyone to defend the grandfather character is if they genuinely enjoy him being there. To which I say; keep him around in the NTR path. For a pure harem route, which the non-NTR path supposedly is, a pseudo-NTR character lurking around is just truly bad.
Alright, let me give this a shot:

Besides being intrinsically woven into too many aspects of the plot to be simply removed, Hunter serves as an antagonist. An antagonist is a plot device that challenges the protagonist, Sterling in this case, and creates conflict in the story. Without an antagonist, you have to find some other source of conflict to drive the plot, or else the story is boring.

You don't like Hunter, that's fine because he's designed not to be liked. What if we had a different antagonist: one who was charming and physically attractive to the ladies? He'd be an even bigger threat to the protagonist, as well as triggering to insecure players who self-insert as the protagonist and can't handle the idea of legitimate competition.

Another thing to remember is that Hunter's meddling helps absolve Sterling of moral responsibility for having sex with the girls. If Sterling had to use all of Hunter's tactics himself then he'd just be a monster and an unsympathetic character. But since Sterling is as much a victim as the girls are, he's not a total piece of shit like all the sleep-molesters we see in other games.

Look, if all you want is a fap and Hunter's that much of a boner-killer, I get it. But acting like he can just be removed from the story is like taking Joker out of Batman because you don't like clowns.
 

dartred

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Jesus... this guy's spending development time on "what if's" .... Guess we'll see the next actual update in mid-2023. :sleep:
Except it's already been confirmed for January if no unexpected delays happen. As much as you wish for it to be delayed, it's going to release early next year.

guys i can't find this scene, is it part of the main title or some volume of what if?
That's from What If 7.
 
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