Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[chanceman]

Is the android update up yet? Who's in charge of the android version?

 

[rhcp725]

The is no official android for the beta. All the porters that do unofficial ports are not going to waste their time porting the beta when the full version will be here in the next couple days. Wait on the full release and I'm sure there will be at least one unofficial compressed android version to go along with the likely official version as well. You waited this long no harm waiting a few more days.

 

[NachoAndCheez]

Honestly, he could have stopped her at any point during that shitshow or even before that. The fact that he kept going on with the flow until the end doesn't give him a free pass at all. He is either an hypocritical piece of shit, a moronic brother that just goes with the flow because he either doesn't care or is just that much of a beta, or even worse, he could be someone just as twisted as her. Leaving aside all the incest an dubious activities on account to who knows what specific amount of drugs they've been exposed to, Sterling's moral compass seems to be pretty crooked at this point (even though some of the shenanigans his family members have pulled off make him look like some sort of saint).

Darted will correct me if I'm wrong on this one but isn't this scene AFTER Hunter comes back and explicitly states that he is going to go all out with the drugs and some that just affect males, after that scene YES Sterling's moral compass goes down the drain, he is handsy at all times, his dirty talk is starting to become denegrating, he kissed Lucia something she told him to never do, he went "sorry I'm raping you but I can't control myself" on Brenna's dinner scene. By this point he is higher than a kite and the only thing in his mind is getting laid, and what did Brenna promised him if he went along with it? GET LAID, get real if you think seeing a swastika is this big sobering experience to a guy that could sell his blood to junkies.

(And by the way, he did sober up enough after to feel disgusted by it, something that RAPING his sister hasn't done by now)

And all this from a guy that let me remind you WOULDN'T EVEN STEP FOOT INTO SOMEONE'S BEDROOM WITHOUT EXPLICIT PERMISSION ON CHAPTER 1, yes the drugs are having a big BIG influence in every character.

 

[gizmoqvack]

Does anyone else have a problem running the Cathrine Gym Event?

 

[jond2760]

I don't watch the NTR scenes so maybe I am wrong but aren't the girls drugged in almost all of the NTR scenes since the beginning?

They have been, yeah, but I still kind of want to see the corruption.

 

[NachoAndCheez]

Does anyone else have a problem running the Cathrine Gym Event?

Download and apply the mandatory patch on the first post of this thread, below the game downloads (on the same post) there is a link that says "mandatory uncensored patch" download and apply that one, everything will run smoothly after.

 

[Hercule_Poirot]

So as long as he scolds someone for doing something disgusting after the fact, which by the way, he also witnessed and didn't stop at any moment and he was also complicit of, you consider the MC's moral compass not crooked at all? Good to know.

 

[dartred]

So as long as he scolds someone for doing something disgusting after the fact, which by the way, he also witnessed and didn't stop at any moment and he was also complicit of, you consider the MC's moral compass not crooked at all? Good to know.

No, i consider that he hated what she was doing and what it stood for, as MC having a good moral compass. He let it play out because Brenna kept telling him it was part of a plan. A plan that MC couldn't know what it would involve. He saw the plan and hated it. That's good morals. Bad morals would be if he liked any part of the plan.

so again, people are ignoring that MC hated what Brenna did.

 

[NachoAndCheez]

So as long as he scolds someone for doing something disgusting after the fact, which by the way, he also witnessed and didn't stop at any moment and he was also complicit of, you consider the MC's moral compass not crooked at all? Good to know.

I said that he is a person with a good moral compass that isn't really himself right now.

 

[Rabbit6605]

GOOD update. thank you for making the DOG sceene, the sterling morph scene, avoidable. and the nazi shit could have did without that.
NOW WE NEED A OPHELIA GETS FUCKED BY KEVIN WHAT IF.

 

[Duke4515]

I get your point, but WWG is known to foreshadow events long before they happen. These are two different scenes from CH 5. Bestiality talk has been in the game for a while. second image might not be direct bestiality talk, but it can be used as an easy tie in. So who it happens with you can say it was random, but that it happened at all, not so much.

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In my opinion those examples don't really constitute strong foreshadowing to the level that we got.

The first one is them playing a game where they seem to just be doing wacky things so I can't say it's foreshadowing. It seemed to me like just some random bullshitting on a game none of them had a stake in personally. I was fine with that. Nothing of this convo to me insinuates a future where an unavoidable LI would be into dogs.

I can't recall the context of the second one but I also don't think it hints hard in that direction either.

 

[rash69]

How long until the official release?

 

[Hercule_Poirot]

I said that he is a person with a good moral compass that isn't really himself right now.

My reply was an answer to what dartred previously said. Maybe I should have quoted him directly in order to avoid any misunderstanding. I feel like there's no point continuing arguing about this topic, since apparently following someone with blind faith and becoming an accomplice to a crime is all nice&well as long a you express your displeasure after the fact and blaming it all on drugs seems like a bullet proof defense too...

 

[dartred]

In my opinion those examples don't really constitute strong foreshadowing to the level that we got.

The first one is them playing a game where they seem to just be doing wacky things so I can't say it's foreshadowing. It seemed to me like just some random bullshitting on a game none of them had a stake in personally. I was fine with that. Nothing of this convo to me insinuates a future where an unavoidable LI would be into dogs.

I can't recall the context of the second one but I also don't think it hints hard in that direction either.

Even if it's not strong, the smallest amount of foreshadowing is enough. Also in CH 5, they foreshadow bears are near. CH 10, Sterling is killed by a bear. You wouldn't have thought a bear would ever show up from that little conversation, but it's just to tell the readers that it's there.

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You really never know what in a conversation will ever be brought up again later. So it's just safe to assume that if they talk about it, be open to it showing up again.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

My reply was an answer to what dartred previously said. Maybe I should have quoted him directly in order to avoid any misunderstanding. I feel like there's no point continuing arguing about this topic, since apparently following someone with blind faith and becoming an accomplice to a crime is all nice&well as long a you express your displeasure after the fact and blaming it all on drugs seems like a bullet proof defense too...

We should bear in mind the sequence of events.

Brenna didn't tell Sterling what she was drawing, and he didn't figure it out until she was almost done. She didn't tell him the details of her plan.

It stands to reason that Sterling would've been more resistant had he known these things sooner. That's his defense, if one is needed.

 

[Hercule_Poirot]

That's a really paper thin defense...

 

[thatguyfoot007]

The dog part...Yeah, didn't see that coming. Far from the worst thing I've come across, but still not great. At least there was a choice at the end of that to keep it from going all in. Literally.

The neo-Nazi thing, yeah. Her drawing a swastika on him, and him still going with it long enough to get laid? Yeah, that's not a great look for him. Yes, he was pissed after it, but Brenna going that far was the first time I have genuinely not liked part of this game. No, I don't do the NTR scenes, they're not my thing. At all. But for the main game? Yeah.

 

[Fayn Arawn]

That's a really paper thin defense...

Au contraire, detective, it speaks to the defendant's intent.

Edit: And for any who are unaware, it is not illegal in the US to display a swastika on your body. It makes you an asshole, but not a criminal.

 

[DanteRed]

I get your point, but WWG is known to foreshadow events long before they happen. These are two different scenes from CH 5. Bestiality talk has been in the game for a while. second image might not be direct bestiality talk, but it can be used as an easy tie in. So who it happens with you can say it was random, but that it happened at all, not so much.

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Eh, I get what you're saying and I agree that WWG is usually pretty good on the foreshadowing front. But those two examples that you gave are ... not pretty good. The first one is just a joke and the one from Aliza is a comment that should remind us that what? dogs exist in this world?
I'll give you about the one with the bears though. That one was solid. Still, while Rebecca isn't an important character, I don't really see the point of having that scene. I wasn't bothered by it since I played worse. It just felt out of place for this game. Although seeing Sterling eaten by a bear was kind of out of place as well.

 

[Hercule_Poirot]

Good to know blackmailing isn't illegal in the US, even though they were kind of blackmailed before, although the time Brenna mentioned didn't feel like that much of a threat.