Ren'Py Abandoned Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

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dartred said:
It's not advertised as a non-ntr game. as a matter a fact. this game wasn't advertised as anything. It was never said to be pure vanilla or pure NTR. But it has been Vanilla focused from the start. i had broken it down many times how much NTR to Vanilla content there's been per chapter and NTR has always been a small %.

let me also put it this way, since you called out the last chapter being 40% NTR (we don't even know for sure) making this game NTR.

if the first 12 chapters were 20% (and they aren't) with the last chapter is 40% NTR.

say we have 12 beers we are mixing together at 20% alcohol. we add in a third bottle to the mix with 40% alcohol. the entire mixture doesn't suddenly become 40% alcohol. The alcohol total is now only 21.54%. The total game is still much less NTR then it is vanilla.

Again though, it was never advertised as non-ntr. we knew NTR was in the game since CH1 and polls from CH 1 and 2 on patreon were voted to keep NTR in. the support for NTR has always been strong from the start.

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But some people are confuse about this game if there is NTR in it but to my observation it is only BAD ending which really is part of the game and to be infact about what a pure NTR games are Cultured shock, Mad Turn or any game that has NTR story progression .. which in PV from the start is Vanilla route with if you choose bad ending which lead to NTR and in the process it will stay only at BAD END not entirely progressing as an NTR story so yeah this game is not NTR xD AHHAHAHH

ntr haters doesn't know what NTR games xD!! just compare it to japanesse H-games that has bad ending route and vanilla route.
 
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dartred said:
It's not advertised as a non-ntr game. as a matter a fact. this game wasn't advertised as anything. It was never said to be pure vanilla or pure NTR. But it has been Vanilla focused from the start. i had broken it down many times how much NTR to Vanilla content there's been per chapter and NTR has always been a small %.

let me also put it this way, since you called out the last chapter being 40% NTR (we don't even know for sure) making this game NTR.

if the first 12 chapters were 20% (and they aren't) with the last chapter is 40% NTR.

say we have 12 beers we are mixing together at 20% alcohol. we add in a third bottle to the mix with 40% alcohol. the entire mixture doesn't suddenly become 40% alcohol. The alcohol total is now only 21.54%. The total game is still much less NTR then it is vanilla.

Again though, it was never advertised as non-ntr. we knew NTR was in the game since CH1 and polls from CH 1 and 2 on patreon were voted to keep NTR in. the support for NTR has always been strong from the start.

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Thank you for replying.

When you say the % of the content of any chapter, I'm assuming you mean the sex scenes that are present in that chapter because if you just mention something like so much % of this chapter is NTR, without mentioning the non-ntr sex scenes % in that chapter it kind of leans towards not giving full information, because most the earlier chapters were towards story building and didn't have any sex scenes for non-ntr and still had bad ends.

I'm aware of the poll which you've shared... I saw this when I was subbed when chapter 9 had rolled out and stopped sub after Chp. 10; I think because of the scenes distribution.

The reason I'm saying that it's falsely advertised is because of the last chance polls and what if's, so WWG had to stop the what if's because those were coming in between the development time and probably he needed some time to rest, so he introduced the last chance polls to make up for the missing what if's for his top patrons, because if he hadn't done the last chance and had continued the game towards non-ntr and story progression there would be more vanilla scenes; the game would've had more solo scenes between the main lead characters and Sterling, but he made the last chance still knowing what would happen when he'd made that and it was obvious that NTR content would win most votes, and chapter 13 will have at least 8-9 NTR scenes.

While you're saying that the non-ntr path will get their epilogue; the quantity & quality of sex content that non-ntr/cannon will have in chapter 13 needs to be seen in conjunction with the first epilogue on the amount of videos and renders it has, because he mentioned a dev-time for roughly a month for those character endings, if the length of the epilogue is less or equal to the what if stories, then his heart is just not in it. That's why I'm waiting for a few updates to drop before I sub back since I don't want to pay for content that the developer himself has no interest in.

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It's probably be said a lot but i remember playing the newest chapter last year....was kinda disappointed that Sterling was having sex with Ophelia off screen..given the amount of build up it took to finally bang Ophelia actual penetration scenes are less compared to Brenna with the next chapter having more ntr I hope we get atleast some great scenes and even impregnation with the main girls and not off screen action being mentioned... Ophelia's model is used in a lot of games but only in this one it's perfect. Maybe it's because of her character. Looking forward to more Brenna/Ophelia scenes
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Hope it happens, solo scenes as well though :)
 
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DD69-1 said:
because if he hadn't done the last chance and had continued the game towards non-ntr and story progression there would be more vanilla scenes; the game would've had more solo scenes between the main lead characters and Sterling
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That's not how it works! It's still the same amount! There's the story. The original story. That doesn't change! If you add stuff that's not part of the original story, the original story doesn't change. Now, if you DON'T add that stuff, the original story STILL DOESN'T CHANGE! So no! There wouldn't have been more solo scenes between the main lead characters and Sterling.
 
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DD69-1 said:
but he made the last chance still knowing what would happen when he'd made that and it was obvious that NTR content would win most votes, and chapter 13 will have at least 8-9 NTR scenes.
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To be fair, most of the NTR scenes were not Last Chance winners, and most of the Last Chance winners were vanilla. So far there are only three NTR scenes that were voted on, and one more that hasn't been teased yet (Lucia x Hunter), unless it was part of "Best/Worst Day". Keep in mind that the Last Chance rules said that non-main characters could each only win one poll, and there are only so many NTR characters, so there were going to be more vanilla winners by default...

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To be fair, most of the NTR scenes were not Last Chance winners, and most of the Last Chance winners were vanilla. So far there are only three NTR scenes that were voted on, and one more that hasn't been teased yet (Lucia x Hunter), unless it was part of "Best/Worst Day". Keep in mind that the Last Chance rules said that non-main characters could each only win one poll, and there are only so many NTR characters, so there were going to be more vanilla winners by default...

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When I realize Sean went to waste :FacePalm:
 
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Fayn Arawn said:
To be fair, most of the NTR scenes were not Last Chance winners, and most of the Last Chance winners were vanilla. So far there are only three NTR scenes that were voted on, and one more that hasn't been teased yet (Lucia x Hunter), unless it was part of "Best/Worst Day". Keep in mind that the Last Chance rules said that non-main characters could each only win one poll, and there are only so many NTR characters, so there were going to be more vanilla winners by default...

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well the NTR for Lucia x Hunter was already been featured when Caths Birthday event.. well it was a nice tragic NTR revelation about lucia's Origin xD but in the end it wasn't hunters child Nhahahah
 
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well the NTR for Lucia x Hunter was already been featured when Caths Birthday event.. well it was a nice tragic NTR revelation about lucia's Origin xD but in the end it wasn't hunters child Nhahahah
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Well, yes and no. True, there was already a Lucia x Hunter scene earlier in the game. But people thought it was too short, and so they voted in the Last Chance polls for ANOTHER Lucia x Hunter scene to happen in Chapter 13.

Similarly, Brenna x Kevin also won a Last Chance poll and are getting a scene in Chapter 13, even though we already saw a glimpse of them having sex in the Ophelia/Kevin "bad end" in Chapter 12.
 
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Deyn21 said:
I wonder if dev is already planning a new game. Can't wait for new girls!
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He is. he has mentioned it very briefly on discord.

MC is the only male. exact reason is unknown. it will be family friendly just like PV is. he's starting developing the characters already. don't know if he's finalized them yet though.
 
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MAGO-DAG said:
What don't do to for avoid problems from patreon agents :HideThePain:
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All jokes aside, that's assuming they're idiots, which sadly they're not.
Malicious cunts, yes. Not idiots.
It's bad enough that tag's up there in this case, but there's been plenty of instances where they've been malicious enough to persecute a creator/dev just for a genuinely third-party incest mod/patch being available for their game here.

Keeping our fingers crossed that they don't play the game at all, including a certain thing available through the OP that makes drastic changes to the game as available on Patreon itself, would be just as beneficial as not saying certain words.
 
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