Ren'Py Abandoned Private Community [v0.1.9c] [Boomatica]

[Netgear]

While I still am disappointed in the lack of progress regarding Private Community, it is me hope and prayer that someday soon this game is continued and eventually finished. Furthermore, disappointed or not, I can - and do - fully recommend this game to future potential players.

I do wish myself to see this game progress, cause it's a damn good game, but i'm sure Boom will eventually return to this game and finish it, guees we just have to be patient.

 

[nwoguy]

Hello all!

Some of the comments that have been made about no updates on the situation are correct...
I really should have posted an update on the situation publicly by now and for that, I am sorry.

The truth is, I simply didn't want to...

<SNIP>

Honestly, as soon as anything changes a post will be made to update everyone on the situation.
But until then... I'm just taking it one day at a time...

Boom, you just do what you need to do, take care of your family member, we understand.

 

[XSilverxdragon]

I finish raise affection for Bella second scene not showing is that soppost to be glitch?

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

I finish raise affection for Bella second scene not showing is that soppost to be glitch?

You're seeing an "Under Construction" message when you try to level Belle up and get the next event with her, right? I don't believe the current version has a level 2 event for her; the "Under Construction" means it's the end of her content right now. This is on hold while Boom (the developer) is taking care of IRL issues (search this thread for more specifics). Until Boom's free again to continue working on this, that will be the end of Belle content for this game; she currently only has a Level 1 event, although when you finish, her Profile in your phone will indicate she's at Level 2. But you can't actually progress any further right now.

 

[konabwo]

i chatter abit...tweaked stats to max (via cheats)...chatted abit again... overall got only 2 xxx scenes with hotel gials (not counting couple of gials masturbating)...is it about so or i did everything wrong?

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

i chatter abit...tweaked stats to max (via cheats)...chatted abit again... overall got only 2 xxx scenes with hotel gials (not counting couple of gials masturbating)...is it about so or i did everything wrong?

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[konabwo]

i assume i skipped some events because of cheating/love level raising ( there must have been xxx events opening further progression) and maybe there are some on trigger (like dunno, phone call i need to react to/go somewhere)

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

i assume i skipped some events because of cheating/love level raising ( there must have been xxx events opening further progression) and maybe there are some on trigger (like dunno, phone call i need to react to/go somewhere)

Very possibly. Cheating stats in games often can break them or limit what you get in them, depending on how the games are coded. Since the events in this game are based on relationship level with other characters, I would assume some events get missed if you jump to a higher level. I haven't looked at the code or anything, but it's possible an event uses something like if h_level == 2 to trigger an event. If that's how it's done, for example, there wouldn't be a chance to get the event unless you were at exactly level 2.

 

[rafa30]

That's a shame.... would have been nice to see.
I really hope it wasn't a member of staff that deleted the comment.



Do you mean the situation ?
If so, I don't think you quite understand the definition of the word "Suddenly".

If you mean my "sudden" reply?
If so, I'm pretty sure I answered that in the actual post... "I Didn't want to..."

But it is apparent that won't be enough for you, so let me explain what lead me to actually post something.
I was notified by several users on discord back in March that someone had made a statement in this thread about my situation, that someone from my team, as well as others had answered and corrected their statement but they weren't accepting the responses.

"Considering this is a public forum, that is to be expected, people don't like to be proven wrong"

Two days ago, I finally got a couple of hours to myself, so I logged into discord to catch up with my team and responed to comments / messages, this didn't take as long as it usually does so I decided to log into F95zone to check out posts and reply to comments that fans/my team hadn't got to yet.

This, is when I came across yours and realised you were the person the users on discord were talking about.
After reading your messages I realised that you were right "I really need to post an update on the situation"
The rest however, is in correct and my team did a fantastic job on correcting you on this, sadly, you were not convinced.

Hence why I'm here again, wasting the very little presious time I do get to myself, having to clear up miss information.

So here goes :




First of all : "HIS" / "In charge"
Yes, The patreon page / Projects are mine, aka, under my name, this does not mean I am the only one working on them.
Just because a project is under "Ba-Games", does not mean I am the only one working on it.
Hence the reason we changed the pages name from "Boom's attic games" to "Ba-Games" as it's a group effort.

a) If you mean, "In charge" as in, who can fire who, then yes, If i wanted to be an idiot and fire JD, I could.
b) If you mean, "In charge" as in, of the project (Sweet Affection) then no, JD is the lead developer on that project.

Second : "Me working on Sweet Affection"
a) If you mean, "Working on" as in spending 5 minitues writing a progress report + posting the update, then yes.
b) If you mean, "working on" as in spending 1 evening at the end of the month compiling the builds, then yes.
Anything else, Nope, you're wrong, that's (95% JD - Art, Writing, Animations) + (5% Quonix - Coding).

Third : "I worked on Sweet Affection while JD was sick - Proof : The Content + Name change"
I'm very, very confused by this... by any chance, did you miss read something?

Sep 13th :

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Sep 23rd :

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Oct 9th :

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So please tell, after I told my supporters that no one was working on Sweet Affection + no update will be released.
How did you possibly come to the conclusion that I worked on it while JD was sick?

If you mean by the amount of content that went into build (0.6.10) "1548 images",
- This has been the avarge for the past 13 months...

If you mean the name change / menu change
- This happend 3 months after JD was sick... we released (0.6.11) + (0.6.12) before that even happend.

Forth : Final Thought on the first part
Just because I use the word "we" does not mean I'm including myself,
I use "We" as a term which is used when referring to a group of people, in this case, BA-games.



First : "No update on the situation"
- Already apologized and stated why here.
As a side note, thank you all that actually took the time to reach out to me privately and ask if I was okay, how the situation was going and if there was any news on the subject instead of posting false information about it on a public forum.

I know my replies were a couple of days late, but I made sure to reply to everyone that asked, whether that was on Discord, Patreon or here on F95zone.

Second : "Has enough time out of his busy schedule to to work on Sweet Affection"
- Already answered in this post.
But just to clarify, that's (3-5 days a month in total to myself) "no, not full days, An hour here / 25 minitues there"
I spend very little of this time actually on myself, it's mainly spent catching up with my team or answering comments, emails or private messages... Like now..

The only time I spend more than an hour behind my computer is at the end of the month.
When I'm compiling the latest update to (Sweet Affection) / setting the uploads off.
During this time, I'm also catching up with my team + implemeting any bug fixes into the build at the last moment.

So No, I'm not exactly using it to contribute content into (Sweet Affection) while refusing to work on this one...
So Please, stop saying this, it's diminishing the amount of hard work JD actually puts into the other game all by himself.



First : "As a supporter originally"
I've sent you a private message.

Second : "His words and actions"
I've just cleared up / corrected your interpretation of my words/actions,
if you have anymore, I'd be more than happy to clear up / correct those too.

Third : "working on other people's games"
If you're an experienced reviewer and critic of porn games,
I'd very much suggest possibly doing some actual research on the games you're reviewing / critiquing on.

Besids the "Working on" topic which I've cleared up / corrected you on multiple times now.

The (Other peoples games) you're referring to, is in fact, "MY" game...
That I started alone, worked on alone, hired JD to work on with me and now still paying JD to work on in my absense.
Which prompted me to make him the lead developer on said game, yet remaining under BA-games.



First : "THIS game had, and really still has, a great deal of potential"
Oh, Finally something I don't need to clear up / correct you on.

Second : "but I would seriously recommend no one bother with ANY of Boomatica's games"
Well, what can I say, we or "I" am not going to please everyone.
I do hope though that after you've read this reply and have had everything cleared up enough for you to understand,
that you change your mind on the subject.

Oh wait... there's more...



First : "Working on Sweet Affection aka "RIA"
Well, I've already cleared this up, but I'm still mind boggled how you possibly came to this conclusion.

Besides the fact that the game is released through my patreon page, "Which, we're a group, not just me"
I see no indicator of how you possibly came to it...

I mean, in my very

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about having to put the game on hold, I let everyone know what was going to happen.



First : " Spend one month working on RIA then one month on Private Community "
Again, the "working on"...
You're really fixated on this aspect, your whole opinion / speculation seems to be based on something 100% false.
Anyway... besides that fact that I personally am not working on anything, as stated above, several times now.

I myself have already explained this, as well as my team, here on f95zone, Patreon and Discord.

Learning Daz3d "Which we use for Private Community" is a whole nother level and very time consuming.
Not only does it take much longer to learn, but it's also very expensive, as you need to pay for all the assets that are used as well as having a decent system to render the images.

Considering the income we make from the page bearly covers living costs,
it's not like we're splashing out on these kind of things.

JD is currently working on Sweet Affection full time and does not have the system, assets or time to learn / render images for Private Community, believe me when I say this, as we have spoken about this in lenth several times.

So when we see someone like you say, "why not just work on both", it's not that simple.
We really wish it was, but it's not and to be blunt, if you think otherwise then you're deluding yourself.

Now let me be clear about something, (which I also have in the past)

When I say "Team"
I'm not referring to 10-50 people in an office, I'm referring to 5 people working from home some of which arn't full time.
1. Me (that is currently on the sidelines)
2. JD (Working full time)
3. Quonix (Coder, works 2-3 days for us when the build is ready)
4. Outsider (Musician : Freelancer, as and when we need him/her)
5. BloodyFace (PR : Not even being paid, just being a fantastic person, so we count them as a team memeber)

So when you see me use the word "Team" it's to show respect to those that have/are doing work for us!
Only 1 person is working full time creating content and holding down the fort, and that is JD.


I hope this clears up the very apparent confusion.

When will we have a private community update?
a year and a half waiting
you could do alternating updates
one month private community and the other sweet affection
would please everyone like that

 

[EsperanzaDeltoro]

When will we have a private community update?
a year and a half waiting
you could do alternating updates
one month private community and the other sweet affection
would please everyone like that

Private community is on hold until the situation changes with Boom's family member. While I would love an update to this game, I also understand that family comes first. The only reason Sweet affection is still being update is because JD is the one handling that. Private Community needs Boom so while it would be great if your idea could work, it sadly can't without Boom. We all just need to be patient and understanding. I'm sure if you were in the same situation you would hope for the same.

 

[rafa30]

Private community is on hold until the situation changes with Boom's family member. While I would love an update to this game, I also understand that family comes first. The only reason Sweet affection is still being update is because JD is the one handling that. Private Community needs Boom so while it would be great if your idea could work, it sadly can't without Boom. We all just need to be patient and understanding. I'm sure if you were in the same situation you would hope for the same.

I understand
I didn't know about Boom's family member's situation.

 

[BloodyFace]

I understand
I didn't know about Boom's family member's situation.

If you want to read about everything that's going on - here's a post from Boom.

It was an answer to someone else, but it contains a ton of details and all links needed to understand the situation.

 

[Rory Smith]

Not one of the best games. But still good

 

[seamanq]

I haven't looked at the code or anything, but it's possible an event uses something like if h_level == 2 to trigger an event. If that's how it's done, for example, there wouldn't be a chance to get the event unless you were at exactly level 2.

If that wasn't bad enough, some developers create double limits, like

if h_level > 3 AND if h_level <7

which ultimately means that you had tweaked the h_level variable from say 2 to 8, then anything within these limits would be skipped/ignored. I don't know that this is the case with this game, but I have seen it in other games, and in my (not so humble) opinion, it is bad game design.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

If that wasn't bad enough, some developers create double limits, like

if h_level > 3 AND if h_level <7

which ultimately means that you had tweaked the h_level variable from say 2 to 8, then anything within these limits would be skipped/ignored. I don't know that this is the case with this game, but I have seen it in other games, and in my (not so humble) opinion, it is bad game design.

I don't feel qualified to talk about good or bad game design in terms of what's coded, although I will say that I can see a developer doing that on purpose to counter potential cheats. I think it's probably not a good idea, and I think it's really unnecessary, because people who want to cheat will find a way anyway.

 

[seamanq]

I don't feel qualified to talk about good or bad game design in terms of what's coded, although I will say that I can see a developer doing that on purpose to counter potential cheats. I think it's probably not a good idea, and I think it's really unnecessary, because people who want to cheat will find a way anyway.

In the game that I saw this, there were multiple checkpoints that if you missed either of them you missed the content. It would be very easy to miss the content because the player was trying to build stat points to get to the next level but didn't know where the cutoff was, so they could be ok on one stat point, but outside the window on the other (multiple stats needed to trigger content). I figure anything in game design that is complicated enough to prevent people from getting to the naughty bits is bad design, because ultimately, people play porn games for the porn, doggone it. If they want a game, they can go play Sims 4, Skyrim, or any one of a gazillion titles out there that are massively better than anything a home-grown developer (especially a first timer) is going to build.

Gets off of soap box and puts it back in the corner, ready for the next rant.

 

[myuhinny]

I actually played skyrim for the porn. You have HDT bodies tons of nude bodies multiple animation mods and sex mods.

 

[seamanq]

I actually played skyrim for the porn. You have HDT bodies tons of nude bodies multiple animation mods and sex mods.

I can neither confirm nor deny playing Skyrim for the porn. I plead the fifth. Same for Sims 4. Sims 4 (and its' many mods) is actually how I discovered F95zone and the world of erotic VNs in the first place.

 

[Master of Puppets]

If that wasn't bad enough, some developers create double limits, like

if h_level > 3 AND if h_level <7

which ultimately means that you had tweaked the h_level variable from say 2 to 8, then anything within these limits would be skipped/ignored. I don't know that this is the case with this game, but I have seen it in other games, and in my (not so humble) opinion, it is bad game design.

Yeah something like that should only really ever happen as part of an elif stack.

if h_level > 3 and if h_level <7:
    # Do stuff
elif h_level < 10:
    # Other stuff
else:
    # More stuff

With the trailing else being important.

 

[seamanq]

Yeah something like that should only really ever happen as part of an elif stack.

if h_level > 3 and if h_level <7:
    # Do stuff
elif h_level < 10:
    # Other stuff
else:
    # More stuff

With the trailing else being important.

Yeah. Like that.