clowns234

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If I have to rely on reading a pirate forum to learn what the game's possibilities are, that's bad game design.

The full Cassius scene: the missing option is right there, greyed out. I know it's there. I know I have to do something to make it happen. That's good design.

That knowing William is a possible fuckable object is opaque to the player is bad game design. Just one fucking line of text. "I want to help Bobo, but I really need to get home." and it's all better. The resistance to this is, honestly, impressive.
Is your goal here to get people to agree with you, because I'm fairly certain that's not going to happen.
The fact that you won't let it go is 'impressive'. :)
 

Zorlun

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Are there any plans for the daughter? Is she going to be like her mother?
Yes, there is plans for the daughter, though I don't know what you mean specifically when you say like her mother.
If you mean making her a MC as well, the answer is no, for now I have planned a few roads for her, depending on the player preferences and choices, with the possibility of ending up with different partners (or none), but it will always in the end be a way to work on the MC, Myriam and deepen her character, revolving around the relation mother/daughter.
Will she be able to help realize herself and avoid her mistakes? Will she encourage her curiosity and love? etc...

And just in passing, sorry for all the people asking for the "enslaving" of the daughter and corruption via the mother, but it's not in the cards (for now anyway).
 

CassidyPRO

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You know, it's kinda hilarious.

"I want to keep helping Bobo, but I need to get home."

That's it. That's all that's necessary to reveal the William scene.

People want an entirely new game, apparently written by me, to discover this apparently incomprehensible gameplay element.
The one in which the player's shown what they're missing...like in the Cassius scene, in which the greyed-out option tells everyone that there's something they're missing.

But, y'know, that's impossible anywhere else in the game, because reasons.

Man, being a porn game dev must be hell on earth..

God you guys are annoying.
 

Zorlun

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Zorlun I think you're doing a bang up job and keep doing what you're doing. As long as I can keep using and abusing Myriam you are top notch in my book.

Though another ROUGH sex scene would be great... maybe a gangbang with the college guys gets really rough
We cannot confirm or deny any scene(s) of this sort in the update... :whistle:
 

armion82

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If I have to rely on reading a pirate forum to learn what the game's possibilities are, that's bad game design.

The full Cassius scene: the missing option is right there, greyed out. I know it's there. I know I have to do something to make it happen. That's good design.

That knowing William is a possible fuckable object is opaque to the player is bad game design. Just one fucking line of text. "I want to help Bobo, but I really need to get home." and it's all better. The resistance to this is, honestly, impressive.
You obviously never play a game-book.Or even some video games.I don't remember any game-book pointing to me that if I choose A I will miss scene 5,but if choose B I will get scene 5 but not scene 7,for example.Same thing with video games.Or board and card games.
 
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Seanthiar

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You obviously never play a game-book.Or even some video games.I don't remember any game-book pointing to me that if I choose A I will miss scene 5,but if choose B I will get scene 5 but not scene 7,for example.Same thing with video games.Or board and card games.
If you mean "Choose-your-adventure"-books or RPG-Game-Books you are partially right, but videogames today are more of the sandbox type and because of that what Segnbora said is felt by many gamers most games today give you a big warning if you are at a point in the game where your decision is game changing like "if you kill this person you'll never get into group y" - for example Fallout 4 is that type game. And in Online games ESO Online is the same type. Your decisions change your fame, status etc. .And the NPC change their behavior because of your actions in the past of the game.
RPG-Books aka pen and paper are more like a suggestion for new gamemasters and if you are the gamemaster you can change the suggested story as you like. But you need experience for something like that. RPG-Books are no fixed stories.
 
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preferences and choices, with the possibility of ending up with different partners (or none), but it will always in the end be a way to work on the MC, Myriam and deepen her character, revolving around the relation mother/daughter.
Will she be able to help realize herself and avoid her mistakes? Will she encourage her curiosity and love? etc...

And just in passing, sorry for all the people asking for the "enslaving" of the daughter and corruption via the mother, but it's not in the cards (for now anyway).
Well, pity for for the "not in the cards" in term of number of possibilities, though I have to admit personally it is anyway not the path I would have preferred (though maybe I would have tried to see how it was).
But excluding that, would not exclude other possibilities.

If Myriam does not have the stats to stop Marc's behaviour (to put it in that way), one leverage Marc (or anybody else, for what matters) could use to convince Myriam to do stuff, would be that otherwise something could happen to Katherine. That does not even really require anything to happen with Katherine and Marc.
Yep, I know, it does not look like a great depiction of Marc, but it does not seem to go against his depiction so far either.
Plus, it does not even need to be Marc. Myriam has already met at least two characters (actualy, four, the motel owner and the three from the underpass) that probably would have no problem to do something to her daughter (or just threaten to do it) to get to the mother, and others may appear to be more neutral, but they were introduced on a very light way, and there can be others to come.
It would not even require to make everybody a bad guy, and the game tags even have already "blackmail" and even "rape", though both can apply to easily to Myriam, Evely, Katherine, Jennifer - and for certain situations to (potentially) happen, even if one has made the choice to push for Katherine as lesbian, it is irrelevant.
So, it all depends on how you have planned the possible paths in the story.

But since you are in the mood for spoilers :p ;-), even if by saying something is not in the cards...
Given there is already the incest tag, and given the description you had posted about Jennifer, would you say the possibility of, let's say, a certain reinforcement of the mother/daughter relationship ;-) is also not in the card ?
It would not stop Myriam from helping Katherine develop her own path.
 
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joy.stick

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No, you're right; I didn't, at first, realize I could push the scene until the "spend more time" (or whatever) choice. So it's very true that you can be nice to Bobo and still get William. But, again, my objection isn't to the branching, which I fully support. It's to the opacity of the choice. Once I became aware that it existed, I bailed on Bobo ASAP (because, again, I don't enjoy this sort of content in corruption games), but if I'd known I could be relatively kind and still get William, I would have. So Myriam acted like an asshole when she didn't have to, but in my defense: how was I supposed to know she didn't have to without looking at the code? Without doing so, it's an either/or choice.
Thanks for the hint, instead of <going to see what happens- bobo scene> went home and had the scene with the boy and another one after gymnastics at school. Is it possible to have bobo content too?
 
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