VN Ren'Py Project Myriam - Life and Explorations [Ch. 5.02+p] [Zorlun]

[cold_arctus]

...??? hang on; so you're telling me, that if a legal-aged guy was fucking a legal-aged girl, n they're unrelated by blood, n both have separate sets of divorced parents, if 1 of their parents winds up marrying 1 of the other's parents, their relationship goes from being legal to illegal, under the definition of the laws in the UK??!! that is just TOTALLY FUBAR...

The UK law is a bit outdated. The point of the law is this passage:

[...] if both the parties have attained the age of twenty-one at the time of the marriage and the younger party has not at any time before attaining the age of eighteen been a child of the family in relation to the other party.

(5) In this section “child of the family” in relation to any person, means a child who has lived in the same household as that person and been treated by that person as a child of his family.

You can marry your step-mother if you are 21 or older and never lived with her under the same roof. In other cases you are not allowed to marry her.

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[ouch2020]

It is classified as incest for the purposes of a criminal act, which depending on circumstances allows for other similar charges to be applied separately.

OK, that makes more sense, also legally, in light of the reference I found. It is not a matter of being legally defined as, but rather, considered and punished as if.
The sexual offenders registration can come from a big number of things, that are not related to blood relations, that why I was wondering.

Which is incredibly ironic given the genealogical history of the monarchy

Oh, it is not only the UK one. Someone already joked about the "German blood", remember the tragedy for Queen Victoria was that she had tried to place all members in the family in the thrones around Europe, and pretty much succeeded, but then, WWI was basically a war between cousins.
The emophilia of the Zarevich Alexander in Russia, was directly linked to too much inbreeding between closely related people, first degree cousins.
Is the reason there is at least one country I know of, where "incest" is stricly only for blood relations (other crimes can apply if there is a legal tutor/adopted father or mother relation), but that included (and AFAIK still includes) up to first degree cousins, which instead the UK law from 1956 I quoted conveniently ;-) excluded.

 

[ouch2020]

dammit...didn't realize i signed up for an interpretive law class online; i just wanna get back to fapping, n empty my nutz

No, much worst , you signed up for a class covering and mixing international comparative law, national marriage law, divorce law, criminal law (in most countries classified as the part that goes under "sexual crimes" or "crimes against the person", but in some maybe still referred as "crimes against morality", etc.), plus, because we are including USA, also state law and its interaction with the federal one for the same country .

Though till none of us takes our exchange too much to the extreme seriousness, I think is funny , and only reinforces the "bottom line".

We should not try to figure out the logic in Patreon bugging Zorlun (and others in future, probably), just accept it is their policy, and see how we can move on from there (the patches, one already promised, and one more or less also).

 

[fuckmymamarunnin]

OK, that makes more sense, also legally, in light of the reference I found. It is not a matter of being legally defined as, but rather, considered and punished as if.
The sexual offenders registration can come from a big number of things, that are not related to blood relations, that why I was wondering.


Oh, it is not only the UK one. Someone already joked about the "German blood", remember the tragedy for Queen Victoria was that she had tried to place all members in the family in the thrones around Europe, and pretty much succeeded, but then, WWI was basically a war between cousins.
The emophilia of the Zarevich Alexander in Russia, was directly linked to too much inbreeding between closely related people, first degree cousins.
Is the reason there is at least one country I know of, where "incest" is stricly only for blood relations (other crimes can apply if there is a legal tutor/adopted father or mother relation), but that included (and AFAIK still includes) up to first degree cousins, which instead the UK law from 1956 I quoted conveniently ;-) excluded.

my head hurts now...can i just please see a family orgy w/Anthony, Myriam, Kat, Marc, n Eve? i need a scotch...

Not really a mess and easy to understand as you just explained it. Some states have it where if you are close enough in age you can have sex. I assume this was to stop people who are seventeen from banging people who are twelve, but as always some idiot can interpret it differently. As for marriage, that always requires court emancipation or parental approval. It is only a thing in some states though. Eighteen isn't even the age of consent throughout most of the country, if I recall, just the federal age and states like CA and NY. However, you can't cross statelines to sex someone under 18. It's all just things devised because one person "took advantage" of "holes". Only issue is if you believe that the whole country is the same as the two states I mentioned.

OW OW OW OW...

 

[clowns234]

Free speech only applies to the government can't take action on your speech (with exceptions - no threats or false advertising, for example.) It doesn't mean you can say what you want on someone else's platform, just like you can't tell your boss to fuck off and expect to still have a job.

That's why I added the disclaimers, 'in a perfect world' and 'or some shit like that'
Perhaps I should have put 'in my perfect world'.

 

[MGUltimate]

Sex between 1st cousins is legal in most US states. In a few, marriage is legal. Not all redneck states, either. Hawaii is one where marriage is legal.

 

[bradleycooper69]

Zorlun Btw I found where Marc called her "Mom" instead of "Mi" in chapter 2, since we're talking about cleaning it up for Patreon.

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[PhazeUFO]

Well, about the different rules, I undestand what you mean, you can check the my post when I checked the age of consent in USA.

In short, man, you have a mess, and if you know two young persons who want to have any kind of sexual activity, I would stronly advise they check with a specialised lawyer ! :-D

You even states that prohibit anything below 18 even if consensual and both below 18; states that have an age of consent, but then allow someone below the age of consent to consent if the partner is less than two or less than three years older, to the point that would accept consent from 13 year old if the partner is 14 or (not yet, if I recall well) 15; one in which one can have sex with someone below age of consent, if they are legally married (and how do you marry in a legally valid way if they are below the age to consent to marriage ?)...

But still, I doubt they will use so freely the "incest" label, the same way in which in USA they do not want to use the "statutory rape" label, although they apply widely in practice (and with the mess both you and I already referred to ).

Not really a mess and easy to understand as you just explained it. Some states have it where if you are close enough in age you can have sex. I assume this was to stop people who are seventeen from banging people who are twelve, but as always some idiot can interpret it differently. As for marriage, that always requires court emancipation or parental approval. It is only a thing in some states though. Eighteen isn't even the age of consent throughout most of the country, if I recall, just the federal age and states like CA and NY. However, you can't cross statelines to sex someone under 18. It's all just things devised because one person "took advantage" of "holes". Only issue is if you believe that the whole country is the same as the two states I mentioned.

 

[Zorlun]

Holy smoke... I feel that we're starting to go a bit out of subject here with all this incest talk... ^^

Zorlun Btw I found where Marc called her "Mom" instead of "Mi" in chapter 2, since we're talking about cleaning it up for Patreon.

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Thanks, corrected! ^^

 

[rlreddit86]

Can we something in the future get a gloryhole scene with Miriam? I think you can hit a lot of her kinks with that and there is a serious lack of good games with gloryhole content on here.

 

[Zorlun]

Can we something in the future get a gloryhole scene with Miriam? I think you can hit a lot of her kinks with that and there is a serious lack of good games with gloryhole content on here.

Gloryholes will definitely happen.

 

[michelita]

Very entertaining legal talk that unfortunately won't bring incest back in the game. To achieve this the goal should be to get Zorlun move away from patreon once his subscribestar numbers allow it. Then maybe Zorlun can give patreon the finger instead of the other way around. It's looking good since last time I checked with 307 patreons and 191 subscribestars. Almost 3-2. It was 2-1 a couple weeks ago.

Maybe Zorlun is done with the whole incest subject but it's clear from this thread that we (or at least most) want more. It was only getting good!

 

[PhazeUFO]

Very entertaining legal talk that unfortunately won't bring incest back in the game. To achieve this the goal should be to get Zorlun move away from patreon once his subscribestar numbers allow it. Then maybe Zorlun can give patreon the finger instead of the other way around. It's looking good since last time I checked with 307 patreons and 191 subscribestars. Almost 3-2. It was 2-1 a couple weeks ago.

Maybe Zorlun is done with the whole incest subject but it's clear from this thread that we (or at least most) want more. It was only getting good!

Usually I just see fans make patches that add them back in so the creator is in the clear. Same with loli and other banned things.

 

[michelita]

Usually I just see fans make patches that add them back in so the creator is in the clear. Same with loli and other banned things.

AFAIK only Marc will get content and it may not make sense even with a patch according to zorlun's narrative. Also no scenes with katherine as she is still Myriam's daughter

 

[Nappi]

hey the bestiality patch will it come back? and is there any new content in this category in the futur?

 

[PhazeUFO]

AFAIK only Marc will get content and it may not make sense even with a patch according to zorlun's narrative. Also no scenes with katherine as she is still Myriam's daughter

That's rough. I can see where one with a fetish for it would be upset.

 

[Sexy Afrodita]

hey the bestiality patch will it come back? and is there any new content in this category in the futur?

Not until developer releases the patched version, this dev is very nice and very active in this thread, he/she/they always share the version with prometeus patch, just wait some days after the patreon release.

 

[Zorlun]

hey the bestiality patch will it come back? and is there any new content in this category in the futur?

It's still there, Prometheus' patch is shared with the game here on F95zone, Discord and SubecribeStar.
And it will keep be shared this way in the future, when Prometheus share his patch with me.

 

[Nappi]

It's still there, Prometheus' patch is shared with the game here on F95zone, Discord and SubecribeStar.
And it will keep be shared this way in the future, when Prometheus share his patch with me.

thanks for the quick answer

 

[Darkmessiah30]

i have a question for Zorlun will this game have trans/futa content like free pass does?