- Nov 11, 2022
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What? I don't get it? Patreon essentially wants creators to stop linking to Patreon? How else is this supposed to work then?
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No, it's more about when you sign in with them, you also sign in your social media, so not only your game and your Patreon page must be squeaky clean, but also your social media.What? I don't get it? Patreon essentially wants creators to stop linking to Patreon? How else is this supposed to work then?
So they don't like that my Discord was linked here because F95 is "dirty" in short (though I don't know why they didn't ask me to put down the Patreon link, but I did it anyway, both because it was logical and because I want to be done with them).
- Jun 12, 2017
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TLDR : Patreon is too mainstream now and get pressured by Paypal and credit card to not have heavy stuff on their website. The whole "It's not on your website but click on it and you'll get" is still against their TSO so they are and will start cracking down more on those who make content with that stuff even if the creation itself is not hosted on their website. Be mad, call it censorship as much as you want, they don't give a shit and can kick you out for any reason.What? I don't get it? Patreon essentially wants creators to stop linking to Patreon? How else is this supposed to work then?
- Sep 3, 2022
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It is not the CC's. It is PayPal, they did it to Itch.io to, the CC's all denied it was them, and say PayPal's ham-fisted approach is bad.
If it was the CC's then SubscribeStar wouldn't accept them
- Jun 12, 2017
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SS is small fish. Not enough exposure to the public to do it. Patreon on the other hand is too mainstream to let them. But if one day SS become big you can bet they'll have the same kind of pressure to be squeaky clean as Patreon is trying to be.It is not the CC's. It is PayPal, they did it to Itch.io to, the CC's all denied it was them, and say PayPal's ham-fisted approach is bad.
If it was the CC's then SubscribeStar wouldn't accept them
Remember these companies don't actually give a shit about how they make money. They care about the appearance of how they make money. Patreon specifically has filed for an IPO back in 2021. Incest and Bestiality just isn't the kind of stuff you usually expect for a company listed and the New York Stock exchange.
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It is not the CC's. It is PayPal, they did it to Itch.io to, the CC's all denied it was them, and say PayPal's ham-fisted approach is bad.
If it was the CC's then SubscribeStar wouldn't accept them
SubscribeStar had Paypal in their payment method before but stop using it, they could have been pressured and refused to bend...
- Sep 3, 2022
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Nah, if you notice major porn sites accept CC fine (even bestiality and incest ones), but what you don't see is PayPal. As said above SS had PayPal at one point, but refused to "bend the knee". Itch.io on the other hand, bent the knee and kissed the ring and got rid of tons of adult content creators as they could not cash out PayPal. And no way for them to deal with CC payments directly.
A pretty smart strategy considering that the profit from the creators...
Don't mind ungrateful ones, mate. There are people who appreciate what you are doing. I started to play the game with incest and couldn't imagine switching to the "censored" version afterwards. So, everytime I look forward to your patch and try to be patient. You do a great job for all the people who want original spirit of the story to be preserved. Respecting your efforts and personal matters is the least we can do as a "thank you"Public reminder, the "resources" for the ipatch are the files and code inside the incest patch itself, my knowledge of Zorlun's code, and my thinking on how the incest element can be kept in the game without straying from the main line (though with some slight modifications in text for coherence) that Zorlun developed after Patreon's censorship intervention.
Which means, is all stuff one can get from the ipatch itself and from a bit of thinking and imagination. I always said that nothing prevented someone else to take over the incest patch, if they wanted to do so.
Note, I am not one for normally complaining about swear words, which I use often in IRL (though mostly not targeting anybody); I myself suggested that some game authors "milk the cow" (though not Zorlun, and cannot apply to me, because I get no money for the incest patch); in my mother tongue one can even use insults as a form of joke not only between friends but also colleagues without anybody taking offense (high context language), and I did not take badly complaints about having to wait for the incest patch, however...
Being told I am "mentally handicapped to take this long", "You should realize no one appreciates someone who is this lazy with a simple I-patch", 'Your "reasons" are invalid and easily debunked with just knowing code. And I do not want the assets because I have better things to work on', "You took accountability for doing the I-patch now you should take accountability that you suck at delivering on time or even within a week", "GTFO" (in case you don't know, it stands for "get the fuck out") and some other stuff in one message, is a bit too much, that kind of behaviour is going to be (and was) reported to the moderators without any reply to the author of such a message.
Up to the moderators to see if they decide that "anything goes", or maybe there should be a balance between avoiding censorship, allowing people to express themselves freely (occasional vulgarity included
Extra note, since the person tried to use some kind of formal language in the mist of the insults: "accountability" and "responsibility" can coincide in the same role or person, but they are not the same thing.
It could be said that I took the responsibiltiy for the incest patch, but the accountability is to be seen, since I depend on others (Zorlun, first of all) to be able to do it, and anyway, if one wants to go for that formalism, should also be remembered I said already the incest patch is done as "best effort", which means, it will not crash the game (aside incompatibility between mods), but other than that, there is no guarantee, included on timing.
Effectively, I am not even sure if the person really complains about not having it yet out for 5.02, or if it is a twisted reverse psychology attempt at making me stop doing the incest patch, but I am not going to waste energy on thinking more about that.
On the other end, last week-end I checked something with "the power to be" for Myriam for an idea I had for the next incest patch, so, there will be a "Dallas" style
So, take your time and don't worry. I'm sure there are more of us who is ready to wait without any complaints. We just stay silent and basically... wait. That's why it may seem there are more negative opinions around.
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Updated my android port.
Thank you, shared the link with the others on Discord.
For the people interested, the incest patch update is coming tomorrow evening (my time zone), I basically did it, but I need to check it tomorrow after work, now is bed time
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Sorry for my question but why does the game still need an incest patch considering that apparently the dev is no longer using PatreonFor the people interested, the incest patch update is coming tomorrow evening (my time zone), I basically did it, but I need to check it tomorrow after work, now is bed time
If he still has a Patreon account, disregard my question
- Apr 26, 2017
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It is not down right now, but if you want the whole story check the link on Zorlun's avatar. It is literally a few post above yours.
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I didn't know the story, thank you.It is not down right now, but if you want the whole story check the link on Zorlun's avatar. It is literally a few post above yours.
Would love to be done with Patreon, but once you're in it hard to shake it off, I will keep actively pushing supporters towards SubscribeStar, but I think it will take time, I'm giving myself at least towards the end of Project Myriam, in hope of starting the next game only on SubscribeStar.
We'll see as it goes.
Damn shame. Patreon sounds like a hijack malware.
Reminds me of the Al Pacino quote, 'Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in'