VN Ren'Py Project Myriam - Life and Explorations [Ch. 5.08a+p] [Zorlun]

[aj1120]

Incest patch for 3.12 (updated) below

As usual, caveat emptor (even if your are not actually buying anything )

Mega

Previous version already eliminated, to save space and avoid mistakes.

Please notice, the walkthrough mod and this patch are not compatible, because both modify the code.

Also, I did not have time to check it as much as I would have liked (though I did correct something from chapter 0 that was pointed out to me), so, in case something is still a bit messed up... The case against Anthony due to the actions towards Kimberley is a criminal trial, thus "Anthony's trial", the case between Myriam and Anthony is about custody for one of the children (Anthony has given up on Katherine) in a divorce, thus the reference to "hearing" and "case" rather than "trial"

Incest patch for 3.12 (updated) below

As usual, caveat emptor (even if your are not actually buying anything )

Mega

Previous version already eliminated, to save space and avoid mistakes.

Please notice, the walkthrough mod and this patch are not compatible, because both modify the code.

Also, I did not have time to check it as much as I would have liked (though I did correct something from chapter 0 that was pointed out to me), so, in case something is still a bit messed up... The case against Anthony due to the actions towards Kimberley is a criminal trial, thus "Anthony's trial", the case between Myriam and Anthony is about custody for one of the children (Anthony has given up on Katherine) in a divorce, thus the reference to "hearing" and "case" rather than "trial"

how to install bro copy to where?

 

[ouch2020]

how to install bro copy to where?

Read the readme , need to copy the files in the "game" folder in the zip to the "game" folder in the folder where you have put Project Myriam

 

[xapican]

how to install bro copy to where?

What I do with RenPy games is that I directly unpack the "game" folder into the Directory where "Project Myriam Live and exploration" is and overwrite when asked

 

[Snugglepuff]

What I do with RenPy games is that I directly unpack the "game" folder into the Directory where "Project Myriam Live and exploration" is and overwrite when asked

When that's an option, yes.
It does seem to be becoming more of a thing though, which is good.

 

[xapican]

When that's an option, yes.
It does seem to be becoming more of a thing though, which is good.

*lightly blushed with shame* Snugglepuff sorry but somehow the meanig of your post, flew by understanding,
Why would that be not an option ? (Does 7z not give this option everytime?) Isn't it usally that the patches with the corresponding archives are packed inside a game folder ?
and what is becoming a thing ?

 

[Snugglepuff]

*lightly blushed with shame* Snugglepuff sorry but somehow the meanig of your post, flew by understanding,
Why would that be not an option ? (Does 7z not give this option everytime?) Isn't it usally that the patches with the corresponding archives are packed inside a game folder ?
and what is becoming a thing ?

It's nothing to do with 7zip.
It's whether or not the person providing said file(s) put it/them a folder called game, before compressing them.

Like when downloading a single file, it'll either be in a folder of its own inside the archive, or just the file itself.

 

[ouch2020]

Without wanting to restart the flames about this subject, got a mail from Patreon about their new "privacy" policy (with the privacy between quotes, because it is more a "big brother" policy, and not only for creators, I will need to send an e-mail with some question to their DPO).
That said, since they also updated their policy for creators, look what I found in it, which I guess is their BS excuse for trying to "police the Internet" (the threat to Zorlun about activities outside Patreon).
"If you are a creator earning money on Patreon, we may be exposed to risk based on what you do with those funds. As a result, we may also look at what you do outside of Patreon", and " We also investigate reports of potential violations. These investigations may take a while to resolve and, primarily because Patreon may be exposed to risk based on what is done with funds earned on Patreon, may include reviewing activity outside of Patreon. " and "Because you are raising funds on Patreon, we may be held accountable for what you do with those funds, so we may also look at what you do with your membership off our platform. As a result when we talk about “On Patreon,” it means the creations you are funding on and through Patreon. When reviewing a page, we look at how creations are shared, where the page is linked to and where the traffic comes from."

If you wonder why I call it "BS excuse" ? Even in USA, where they are based, the only case in which they could be held responsible is 1) if they knowledgeably help you sell stolen stuff; 2) if they were willfully giving you money to do a criminal activity, or knowledgeably allowing you to use their service to get the funding for such criminal activity.
In any other case, even if someone was using the money they make on Patreon to create a drug cartel (doubt many can claim making that kind of money on Patreon), insofar as their activity on Patreon was legal, Patreon would have no legal responsibility, till when they are not warned, and certainly no authority to try go doing any kind of investingation, that is what police and security forces are for.
Patreon is not a bank, plus, even banks, when using the "Know Your Customer" ask for documents and information from the customer and relevant and legal source, do not try to go and "play cop" (which in more than one country, is a crime in itself).
It seems like they decided they are the FBI and go around investigating :-D

 

[Viressa]

Without wanting to restart the flames about this subject, got a mail from Patreon about their new "privacy" policy (with the privacy between quotes, because it is more a "big brother" policy, and not only for creators, I will need to send an e-mail with some question to their DPO).
That said, since they also updated their policy for creators, look what I found in it, which I guess is their BS excuse for trying to "police the Internet" (the threat to Zorlun about activities outside Patreon).
"If you are a creator earning money on Patreon, we may be exposed to risk based on what you do with those funds. As a result, we may also look at what you do outside of Patreon", and " We also investigate reports of potential violations. These investigations may take a while to resolve and, primarily because Patreon may be exposed to risk based on what is done with funds earned on Patreon, may include reviewing activity outside of Patreon. " and "Because you are raising funds on Patreon, we may be held accountable for what you do with those funds, so we may also look at what you do with your membership off our platform. As a result when we talk about “On Patreon,” it means the creations you are funding on and through Patreon. When reviewing a page, we look at how creations are shared, where the page is linked to and where the traffic comes from."

If you wonder why I call it "BS excuse" ? Even in USA, where they are based, the only case in which they could be held responsible is 1) if they knowledgeably help you sell stolen stuff; 2) if they were willfully giving you money to do a criminal activity, or knowledgeably allowing you to use their service to get the funding for such criminal activity.
In any other case, even if someone was using the money they make on Patreon to create a drug cartel (doubt many can claim making that kind of money on Patreon), insofar as their activity on Patreon was legal, Patreon would have no legal responsibility, till when they are not warned, and certainly no authority to try go doing any kind of investingation, that is what police and security forces are for.
Patreon is not a bank, plus, even banks, when using the "Know Your Customer" ask for documents and information from the customer and relevant and legal source, do not try to go and "play cop" (which in more than one country, is a crime in itself).
It seems like they decided they are the FBI and go around investigating :-D

This has been Patreon policy for a while, it's why they sometimes ban creators for having Verboten Art on their twitters.

 

[Kassan06969]

That is total bullshit. Forget the FBI, Patreon is the fucking GESTAPO!

 

[doccop63]

This has been Patreon policy for a while, it's why they sometimes ban creators for having Verboten Art on their twitters.

So here's a suggestion. Why don't all of the creators and devs create their own site? It could be a site For creators, devs and writers, By said artists. If they want support, why not have individual Cash app accounts within the site? That way you can create pretty much how to you envision your work without the handicaps associated with Patreon (within reason ofc). Seems like the simplest solution to me.

 

[Charlie78]

Hhmmm.... longer updates would be very nice!

 

[Viressa]

So here's a suggestion. Why don't all of the creators and devs create their own site? It could be a site For creators, devs and writers, By said artists. If they want support, why not have individual Cash app accounts within the site? That way you can create pretty much how to you envision your work without the handicaps associated with Patreon (within reason ofc). Seems like the simplest solution to me.

The problem is these restrictions are demanded by paypal and other payment processors. Creating a new platform without agreeing to this censorship means said processors will refuse to work with you. And it's a simple fact of the market that most people, if they encounter a site that won't let them make a payment in the usual way, will simply not bother rather than work out a compatible payment method. This is the basic idea behind subscribestar: We'll make a censorship-free platform for porn artists, and just accept the cost of turning away many customers due to not having the payment processor they're used to. (And in some countries it's literally not possible to use the alternatives that Substar accepts legally.) Though I do think it would be better for such a platform to be controlled by the artists directly in a sort of worker-owned cooperative rather than by a corporation.

Zorlun could have abandoned patreon to go substar-only instead but that would have required leaving a huge portion of his income on the table, most of his patreon patrons would simply stop subscribing rather than switch over to substar.

(And you could say, "well, why don't we start our own payment processor" but that's a lot harder than it sounds, national governments take anything that facilitates the international transfer of money *dead* seriously and operating everywhere means you have to give in to the contradictory demands of a hundred different states. And you still run into the problem substar does where most people will simply refuse to use your service rather than use anything other than paypal.)

 

[Cabrini Green]

Is there a way to accidentally miss certain scenes?

First run through I basically went massive slut mode.

And then I did a second run through that was a bit more restrained and I found a new encounter in the park with Brutus and another dog.

So by taking a shit ton of scenes, is it possible to miss other scenes/not get the prompts for other scenes?

 

[Zephea]

Is there a way to accidentally miss certain scenes?

First run through I basically went massive slut mode.

And then I did a second run through that was a bit more restrained and I found a new encounter in the park with Brutus and another dog.

So by taking a shit ton of scenes, is it possible to miss other scenes/not get the prompts for other scenes?

You will never see all scenes on a single play through. Just not possible. Zorlun loves to keep us entertained at many levels... just play how you like, make Myriam your character and have fun! :>)

 

[ouch2020]

(And you could say, "well, why don't we start our own payment processor" but that's a lot harder than it sounds, national governments take anything that facilitates the international transfer of money *dead* seriously and operating everywhere means you have to give in to the contradictory demands of a hundred different states. And you still run into the problem substar does where most people will simply refuse to use your service rather than use anything other than paypal.)

Actually, I worked in the financial sector in the past, including card transanctions. It is not only the legal requirements of the country authorities, though you are correct in that you have to deal with them and can be complicated. And it is not only the specific authorities for payments/financial sector, when they exist.
There is still also the issue of the credit card/payment companies.
Despite what we just said about all the rules and regulations of countries, they are an example of the kind of power big companies can become, a bit like energy companies, and big tech companies like Facebook and Alpha (Google) and banks.
If you the card issuer does not allow you to connect to their service, you can call yourself a processor, have all the knowledge and the tech, but you will process very little.

On the other hand, about subscribestar, unfortunately I am also supporting something else on Patreon aside Myriam, but considering that Patreon says they "may" get from paypal (full name and address), plus all the other information they collect, I honestly think I will give a look at subscribestar as well, the whole idea of Patreon accepting Paypal is the don't your personal information, in reality, between what Paypal "may" give them, and what they collect themselves, they may even ask you directly to send them a picture of your id (and yes, I know they do it for authors, but I am not author).

 

[ouch2020]

Is there a way to accidentally miss certain scenes?

First run through I basically went massive slut mode.

And then I did a second run through that was a bit more restrained and I found a new encounter in the park with Brutus and another dog.

So by taking a shit ton of scenes, is it possible to miss other scenes/not get the prompts for other scenes?

Certainly.
As was just said, just play the way you want, save a lot, and go back to your saves making different choices.
Or you can use anoter way, which, however, I suggest you mix and use only if you feel +/- confident in what you are doing. The way Zorlun made the game, the choices you make can be registered by increasing a variable, e.g. "Dominance", but in each chapter there are also variables that register e.g. if you did the date with the two cops.
By using URM and searching for the right variable, you can play around either by changing the variable that decides the branching, or by change the value of e.g. "Trust" so that a path not open becomes open, so you need less saves to be actually explore lots of possible paths and scenes.

 

[Zorlun]

Is there a way to accidentally miss certain scenes?

First run through I basically went massive slut mode.

And then I did a second run through that was a bit more restrained and I found a new encounter in the park with Brutus and another dog.

So by taking a shit ton of scenes, is it possible to miss other scenes/not get the prompts for other scenes?

Short answer, yes, you can definitely miss things.

As you were answered, depending on some choices, you will see or miss some scenes, have different branching scenes, same with the stats, depending on how you play Myriam, you will be offered some choices or not, etc... For now, it's relatively straight forward, but there will be more of this as the game goes on, I chose to make choices matter in the game.
Of course not all choices will bring you a special scene, some are just here for flavor, some for building Myriam and some to lead her to some scenes or not. But in any way, as you were told, it's impossible to see everything in one playthrough, you simply can't make Myriam do and be everything.

 

[Night Hacker]

Is there a way to accidentally miss certain scenes?

First run through I basically went massive slut mode.

And then I did a second run through that was a bit more restrained and I found a new encounter in the park with Brutus and another dog.

So by taking a shit ton of scenes, is it possible to miss other scenes/not get the prompts for other scenes?

Don't help Bobo (the homeless guy at the start) and you will have a chance with a relationship with William instead.

There's variations on some scenes depending on whether you are submissive or dominant as well (like with Mark).

I have several different saves for different routes.

 

[TheLecher]

Don't help Bobo (the homeless guy at the start) and you will have a chance with a relationship with William instead.

I believe that Myriam can still get with William later on, even if she helps Bobo. If I'm not mistaken, helping Bobo just cuts off the earlier content with William. After his mother goes into the hospital, I think there's a second chance.

 

[Viressa]

I believe that Myriam can still get with William later on, even if she helps Bobo. If I'm not mistaken, helping Bobo just cuts off the earlier content with William. After his mother goes into the hospital, I think there's a second chance.

I'd have to look at the game code to make sure but every playthrough where I help Bobo and miss that initial William scene, all of his content is inaccessible forever more.