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So, to clarify...
Let me ask you a question. Detached from fantasy. Your daughter is in a coma. You need a shit tonne of cash. You are 98% of the way to figuring out your tech. You have people helping you with this. Do you:

A: Make damn sure you figure it out...guaranteeing you the money you need....or:
B. Gamble with what little money you actually do have (and by gamble I actually mean, gamble...chance) and go illegal street racing with a car (with I might add, if you know 'anything' about cars or motor sport), is not suitable, requires money spending on it and could in itself, guarantee you never make the money (or see your daughter again...you know, the single most important thing in your life) because you either got arrested, killed a pedestrian or probably yourself (thus breaking your promise to your ex-wife..you know,, said mother of your child). The very fact you have agency in the races and not win a single one...just shows what a pointless plot device it really is.

Answers on the back of a postcard....

No need to actually answer this btw....because anyone with an ounce of intelligence and common sense knows the answer....
Suffice to say, I think we are not going to find common ground there.
Ahhh...so what you're actually (politely and underhandedly) saying is you agree to disagree? Well, we all know what that really means don't we? ;)

You have a good day sir.
 
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maxthruster

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Let me ask you a question. Detached from fantasy. Your daughter is in a coma. You need a shit tonne of cash. You are 98% of the way to figuring out your tech. You have people helping you with this. Do you:

A: Make damn sure you figure it out...guaranteeing you the money you need....or:
B. Gamble with what little money you actually do have (and by gamble I actually mean, gamble...chance) and go illegal street race with a car (with I might add, if you know 'anything' about cars or motor sport), is not suitable, requires money spending on it and could in itself, guarantee you never make the money (or see your daughter again..you know, the single most important thing in your life) because you either got arrested, killed a pedestrian or probably yourself (thus breaking your promise to your ex-wife)...
(Except that he isn't 98% of the way there, especially not at the time of the accident, and he needs money much faster than the battery project can sell equity)

Don't get me wrong, it is a contrived plotline... in the same way that Breaking Bad is contrived because most people who get cancer don't start a meth empire to pay for treatment. That is kind of the point of fiction, to tell extraordinary stories with human centers. That's why we have suspension of disbelief; it lets us accept less than normal circumstances because they're all in service to a greater narrative. So long as there are threads of logic stitching it all together, the fabric will hold.
 

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Let me ask you a question. Detached from fantasy. Your daughter is in a coma. You need a shit tonne of cash. You are 98% of the way to figuring out your tech. You have people helping you with this. Do you:

A: Make damn sure you figure it out...guaranteeing you the money you need....or:
B. Gamble with what little money you actually do have (and by gamble I actually mean, gamble...chance) and go illegal street racing with a car (with I might add, if you know 'anything' about cars or motor sport), is not suitable, requires money spending on it and could in itself, guarantee you never make the money (or see your daughter again...you know, the single most important thing in your life) because you either got arrested, killed a pedestrian or probably yourself (thus breaking your promise to your ex-wife..you know,, said mother of your child)...

Answers on the back of a postcard....

No need to actually answer this btw....because anyone with an ounce of intelligence and common sense knows the answer....
Reality doesn't apply in this case. In RL, you choose A, buuuuut in a video game, you choose B because it is an exciting risk with potential high reward that you wouldn't do in RL.

If this was RL simulator about a white collar cashing in his check from his 9-5 job, we wouldn't be interested in it. But because we can gamble our money on racing to save our daughter, we do it with gusto.

Sure we can fail, but then we just reset or are aware that it isn't real.

You totally missed the appeal of video games and fiction.
 

Idontplay

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The whole entire plot....just another stupid crime/revenge/thriller wrapped up in something that came from left field. So many VN's do it and none of them need it. The battery tech storyline alone is more than enough to carry this VN totally unbelievable and erasable from the plot.

I won't even get into the why of how fucking stupid the whole illegal street-racing part of this VN is.
Fixed.
 

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Reality doesn't apply in this case. In RL, you choose A, buuuuut in a video game, you choose B because it is an exciting risk with potential high reward that you wouldn't do in RL.

If this was RL simulator about a white collar cashing in his check from his 9-5 job, we wouldn't be interested in it. But because we can gamble our money on racing to save our daughter, we do it with gusto.

Sure we can fail, but then we just reset or are aware that it isn't real.

You totally missed the appeal of video games and fiction.
I have seen too many people ruin themselves, trying to solve their financial trouble or trying to become rich doing stupid things like start to gamble. So it isn't unrealistic if a desperate man tries to make a lot of money with the illegal street racing, above all if this miraculous battery is still prototype with a lot of potential, but no actual commercial use; like it is in this moment of the game.
 
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Ilhares

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Like, if you turn her down early and she ghosts you, she just straight up disappears from almost every scene and it makes zero impact on the story.
I think you nailed it right here. She's the fucking Jared Leto of the game. Sure, there are some fans, but most of the time if they're completely removed from the project things are either the same or improved by their absence.
 

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I think you nailed it right here. She's the fucking Jared Leto of the game. Sure, there are some fans, but most of the time if they're completely removed from the project things are either the same or improved by their absence.
That's probably the most brutally scathing remark I've seen about any LI in any game.
A+.
 

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The very fact you have agency in the races and not win a single one...just shows what a pointless plot device it really is.
Actually wait, hold up. I just noticed this.

I think you must've missed something crucial when playing the game and maybe that's why you think the racing aspect is so pointless, because you very much can win the races. I lost the first one on my very first playthrough because I didn't quite understand the mechanic yet but once I figured it out I redid it and it was pretty easy. Haven't lost any since then. I'd strongly suggest giving it another whirl if that's something you struggled with.
 

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Been trying to find these two scenes for a while, only missing these... Can anybody tell me what it is I'm missing?
What you're missing are different versions of the scenes with V and Nat with Jassmine.
The V one would be doing the mini-game without doing it perfectly, or vice versa. I don't know exactly which one you have unlocked. And the other one is being on Nat's path, without having had a relationship with Jasmine, if I remember correctly.
 
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What you're missing are different versions of the scenes with V and Nat with Jassmine.
The V one would be doing the mini-game without doing it perfectly, or vice versa. I don't know exactly which one you have unlocked. And the other one is being on Nat's path, without having had a relationship with Jasmine, if I remember correctly.
I appreciate it so much! Couldn't get to them for the life of me!
 
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Dr.TSoni

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V being agressive/insecure towards other women? There's a reason for that.
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It wasn't Jasmine who created V but V who created Jasmine.
It was Veronica who went crazy for no reason when Jasmine and MC weren't doing anything illicit or even remotely compromising and started calling Jasmine a whore. Veronica has no justification since any "seduction" by Jasmine begins after that event.
 

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only read some of that. Honestly I never liked V and still don't the Jasmine shit doesn't bother at all cause it always rubbed me the wrong way how V asked for a serious relationship again not long after Lilly's accident. I always thought Jasmine fucking with V was funny and kind of not a big deal to me I need to replay the game but didn't V kind of start it? While yeah she should of not done it all and it's a minor negative for her character to me. Tho I don't see Jas as a slut I think Nat and Alexa are more slutty than Jas personally. Tho the last update where Jasmine kicked the MC out of her room after the sex scene super faster maybe somewhat dislike her.

Either way V and Jas don't compare to Allie and Maggie for me
 

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There are people who don't like V? I get the forced LI hate but come on, she's a voluptous vixen ready to do anything for you.
On the MC taking part on street races and what not.
Yeah, he's a researcher professor or whatever, but at the same time he cheated on the mother of his child. Now he's involved with alumni (If you take that path) which is a very bad idea when the life of your child depends on your work. Illegal street racing is the least of his problems imo.
The dude is an idiot savant.
 

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There are people who don't like V? I get the forced LI hate but come on, she's a voluptous vixen ready to do anything for you.
never have from the first time I played the game haha. While I also dislike her character also for me V is the least attractive when it comes to looks I never really liked how she looked from the first time I played especially compared to every other LI in the game. I mean don't get me wrong she doesn't look bad or anything just something about her looks is not my cup of tea and doesn't work for me not sure what it is either maybe the face idk.
 

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Imagine for one second that there were boys in Jake classroom. Obvioulsy they would try to flirt with Jasmine. How would you feel ? Probably like V feels.
I'd like to see boys from Veronica's class hitting on her. Perhaps even successfully if you choose to dump her
 
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never have from the first time I played the game haha. While I also dislike her character also for me V is the least attractive when it comes to looks I never really liked how she looked from the first time I played especially compared to every other LI in the game. I mean don't get me wrong she doesn't look bad or anything just something about her looks is not my cup of tea and doesn't work for me not sure what it is either maybe the face idk.
yep, just gimme that sexy slim Allie already, and I'll die happy. Hottest woman in the game. Jammin comes close though
 

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never have from the first time I played the game haha. While I also dislike her character also for me V is the least attractive when it comes to looks I never really liked how she looked from the first time I played especially compared to every other LI in the game. I mean don't get me wrong she doesn't look bad or anything just something about her looks is not my cup of tea and doesn't work for me not sure what it is either maybe the face idk.
I always find her quite attractive when she puts her hair up, but it doesn't look that flattering when it's down. I dunno, maybe it just makes her head look wider or something I guess.
 

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Imagine for one second that there were boys in Jake classroom. Obvioulsy they would try to flirt with Jasmine. How would you feel ? Probably like V feels.
That's the a false equivalency though, there's no flirting between Jasmine and MC in front of Veronica before she goes into bunny boiler mode.

A correct question would simply be:

Imagine for one second that there were boys in Jake classroom. How would you feel ? Probably like V feels.
And the answer to that is no, I wouldn't feel like she feels just because there's boys in the same room as Jasmine. Other college AVNs have mixed gender classes with LIs in the classroom with male NPCs and I have absolutely zero problem with that.
 
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