pitao

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Interesting, I'm thinking about making a save with Nat's route and another with Maggie too, thanks friend, if you can later make your pdf with the routes available I'd appreciate it because I rarely play with mods.
There is a great PDF Walkthrough in the OP from MrBubu, it is in a diagram style, for me is easier to read and understand and even backtrack on some variable using the search you can use on pdf's, of course if you play always in Portuguese it can be a problem, personally I always play this games in English. Some may have to get used to the style of it but once you get how they work you won't want to use any other style :LOL:. The link is in the Opening Post by "PDF Walkthrough" but I'll put here a fast link for you https://f95zone.to/threads/race-of-life-ep-3-2-extra-fix3-underground-studio.130096/post-11824061
 
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Except he wasn't trapped. If his wife wasn't giving him what he wanted and refused to communicate or compromise, just walk away. He had a good job, could have left his wife anytime he wanted, got his own place and sorted out co-parenting.

Instead, he chose the nuclear option of having an affair with someone that worked with him and his wife, resulting in him losing his job, his marriage and damaging his wife's friendship with Cammie because he lied to Coop.

I'm kinda worried about society, when you betray someone and a lot of voices are like "but he/she wasn't happy, so it's not solely his/her fault".
If you honestly think this, you don't understand the male mentality when it comes to dealing with women in the modern age.

I'm worried about society too, when people like you expect people to confront all their fears at once, like a goddamn robot.
 

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I'm worried about society too, when people like you expect people to confront all their fears at once, like a goddamn robot.
I can see both sides. I can also forgive a lot, but if you betray me, you're done. There's no 2nd chances, it's over and you're gone.

That said, a hard dick has no conscience. Men are impacted by their hormones no less so than women, who have literally used their period to get away with murder. Why are men held to the higher standards of behavior?
 
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xXwankerXx

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HE cheated. If he was unhappy in his marriage, he could have separated. Instead he chose to remain married, cheat with someone they both worked with
he then tried to conceal it and lied to his friends who believed him, which when it turned to be true, fractured Allie's friendship with Coop and Cammie.
If his wife wasn't giving him what he wanted and refused to communicate or compromise, just walk away. He had a good job, could have left his wife anytime he wanted, got his own place and sorted out co-parenting.
even if you aren't happy you can at least treat your spouse like a human being and leave rather than betray
Again with the 'simply walk-away and throw everything out the window in the process' argument ??:ROFLMAO::KEK: Let me repeat myself here, good luck using this kinda bullshit in court and still hoping to win the case. At worst, even the judge will laugh his ass off hearing this nonsensical excuse and favor the wife, and if you unlucky enough to stand before a female judge, well, just keep hoping she ain't a feminist. Just a lil something to think about.

Understand this kids, MC and Allison's divorce is something that has happened and, sadly, still happens IRL a lot, and the same reason that led to Allison divorcing the MC here is invoked in most cases as a convenient excuse for a quick separation or a quick cash grab, depending on who the couple is and how much $$$ the two of them have.

I do agree that the MC should've divorced her first before hooking up with other women, since he ain't exactly the richest guy in his own damn neighborhood to make losing half of his shit that much of a problem for him, not being able to spend as much time as he wanted to with his daughter however, is a legit concern to why divorcing Allison wasn't a good idea.

Many real couples seem to forget this and just proceed with the divorce without second-guessing their decision and how it would impact their children's future, but in our story, the MC obviously only stayed for Lily. This is why that spiteful bitch did everything she could to keeping him away from her as much as possible and also threatened to take Lily away so he won't see her again. If you guys wanna call this rational behavior from an adult or something a true mother would do, I say we end this conversation here, cuz it's pointless to continue it.

As for V, her involvement in the project boils down to formatting the documentation.
Might wanna replay the game and focus on her path instead of ignoring it and throwing stones at the character for the lolz. I assure you she did way more than that, while Allison was forced to tolerate the MC for their daughter's sake. Don't pretend she'd give a flying fuck about Jake's mean lil battery on steroids side hustle if Lily wasn't in the delicate situation she's in.

His actions led to her losing friends and her being pitied by her colleagues, so yeah, she had every right to be pissed.
It's not worse than the bitch doing her best to prevent him to see his daughter, openly insulting him in front of her and threatening to take her away so he won't see her again. Unless you tell me that her precious "friends" and colleagues' opinion about her is more important than her daughter's future, mental health and wellbeing, I'd say it's a W for me here.

Also, no actual 'friend' on this planet would cut ties with someone, be they man or woman, who got cheated on. No, only an idiot or a very insensitive, narrow-minded fuck would do that. A real friend who deserves to be called that would offer their full emotional support and try to do everything they can to help this person, not gossip behind their back or stop talking to them. At least, that's how I see it and exactly what I'd do for someone I call a friend who went through this delicate problem.

I have no sympathy for cheaters irl.
Sure hope you're not a V hater, cuz you'd be contradicting and trolling yourself if you were. Just sayin'. You'll find in the story, on her path why I said this and why I think she gets way too much negativity than she really deserves.:p

Its useless to argue with them about it
All these guys excusing the cheating
They behave like the possibility of breaking up didnt exist
So, you ppl hate cheaters and cheating in general, even when the ppl you try to defend have a part of the blame in the cheating, defend a spiteful bitch like Allison, who, apparently, is always the victim, but go all nuclear on V for being cheated on and/or potentially used as recreational one-night stand or casual fling at least a few times before ?? Lol, make it make sense, cuz math ain't mathing here at all.

I understand not liking her body proportions and/or her sometimes immature jealous outbursts, clingy, desperate and unreasonably insecure personality cuz of tastes and preferences, but when claiming to hate cheaters soo much, you automatically imply you sympathize with the person who got cheated on and think they deserve all the love and support they can get, and funny enough you then proceed to bash, troll and humiliate a character that's exactly this, an actual victim of cheating and/or at least one abusive relationship. It don't make sense, bois. There's an obvious double standard in this logic of yours.:whistle:
 

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Again with the 'simply walk-away and throw everything out the window in the process' argument ??:ROFLMAO::KEK: Let me repeat myself here, good luck using this kinda bullshit in court and still hoping to win the case. At worst, even the judge will laugh his ass off hearing this nonsensical excuse and favor the wife, and if you unlucky enough to stand before a female judge, well, just keep hoping she ain't a feminist. Just a lil something to think about.

Understand this kids, MC and Allison's divorce is something that has happened and, sadly, still happens IRL a lot, and the same reason that led to Allison divorcing the MC here is invoked in most cases as a convenient excuse for a quick separation or a quick cash grab, depending on who the couple is and how much $$$ the two of them have.

I do agree that the MC should've divorced her first before hooking up with other women, since he ain't exactly the richest guy in his own damn neighborhood to make losing half of his shit that much of a problem for him, not being able to spend as much time as he wanted to with his daughter however, is a legit concern to why divorcing Allison wasn't a good idea.

Many real couples seem to forget this and just proceed with the divorce without second-guessing their decision and how it would impact their children's future, but in our story, the MC obviously only stayed for Lily. This is why that spiteful bitch did everything she could to keeping him away from her as much as possible and also threatened to take Lily away so he won't see her again. If you guys wanna call this rational behavior from an adult or something a true mother would do, I say we end this conversation here, cuz it's pointless to continue it.



Might wanna replay the game and focus on her path instead of ignoring it and throwing stones at the character for the lolz. I assure you she did way more than that, while Allison was forced to tolerate the MC for their daughter's sake. Don't pretend she'd give a flying fuck about Jake's mean lil battery on steroids side hustle if Lily wasn't in the delicate situation she's in.



It's not worse than the bitch doing her best to prevent him to see his daughter, openly insulting him in front of her and threatening to take her away so he won't see her again. Unless you tell me that her precious "friends" and colleagues' opinion about her is more important than her daughter's future, mental health and wellbeing, I'd say it's a W for me here.

Also, no actual 'friend' on this planet would cut ties with someone, be they man or woman, who got cheated on. No, only an idiot or a very insensitive, narrow-minded fuck would do that. A real friend who deserves to be called that would offer their full emotional support and try to do everything they can to help this person, not gossip behind their back or stop talking to them. At least, that's how I see it and exactly what I'd do for someone I call a friend who went through this delicate problem.



Sure hope you're not a V hater, cuz you'd be contradicting and trolling yourself if you were. Just sayin'. You'll find in the story, on her path why I said this and why I think she gets way too much negativity than she really deserves.:p





So, you ppl hate cheaters and cheating in general, even when the ppl you try to defend have a part of the blame in the cheating, defend a spiteful bitch like Allison, who, apparently, is always the victim, but go all nuclear on V for being cheated on and/or potentially used as recreational one-night stand or casual fling at least a few times before ?? Lol, make it make sense, cuz math ain't mathing here at all.

I understand not liking her body proportions and/or her sometimes immature jealous outbursts, clingy, desperate and unreasonably insecure personality cuz of tastes and preferences, but when claiming to hate cheaters soo much, you automatically imply you sympathize with the person who got cheated on and think they deserve all the love and support they can get, and funny enough you then proceed to bash, troll and humiliate a character that's exactly this, an actual victim of cheating and/or at least one abusive relationship. It don't make sense, bois. There's an obvious double standard in this logic of yours.:whistle:
this is adorable, just accept that people disagree with you and move on :)
 

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this is adorable, just accept that people disagree with you and move on :)
His whole thing boils down to "If he divorced her, he'd lose half his shit". It's funny because the cheating led to divorce and his ex-wife despising him and using his actions to alienate his daughter.

I'm done here, it's pushing into "his wife is his property" territory. The man could do no wrong, it's his wife's fault, he had to go elsewhere for pussy.
 

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this is adorable, just accept that people disagree with you and move on :)
and this is the reason I rarely like to talk about V vs Allie anymore in this thread at least when he shows up. I will usually state my opinion at times and rarely get involved beyond 1-3 replies. Instead of having a mild disagreement or discussion he always turns it into something more than it needs to be ( a Allie Vs V war) because of his hatred for Allie
 

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His whole thing boils down to "If he divorced her, he'd lose half his shit". It's funny because the cheating led to divorce and his ex-wife despising him and using his actions to alienate his daughter.

I'm done here, it's pushing into "his wife is his property" territory. The man could do no wrong, it's his wife's fault, he had to go elsewhere for pussy.
Losing half your stuff in divorce is NOT an unfounded fear, and pretending it isn't is the epitome of reductive stupidity.

Men are expected to be the breadwinner for a family. The MC was the one for his. Divorce court incentivizes women to ruin men in court. Are you HONESTLY going to tell me that shouldn't be a factor?
 
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Losing half your stuff in divorce is NOT an unfounded fear, and pretending it isn't is the epitome of reductive stupidity.

Men are expected to be the breadwinner for a family. The MC was the one for his. Divorce court incentivizes women to ruin men in court. Are you HONESTLY going to tell me that shouldn't be a factor?
The MC held a lower position than his wife in the same company. So your argument holds no weight.
 

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Losing half your stuff in divorce is NOT an unfounded fear, and pretending it isn't is the epitome of reductive stupidity.

Men are expected to be the breadwinner for a family. The MC was the one for his. Divorce court incentivizes women to ruin men in court. Are you HONESTLY going to tell me that shouldn't be a factor?
Wait what? Allison was higher up than him when they worked together. At best case they were at least equal pay wise, with her realistically probably making more.
 

xXwankerXx

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this is adorable, just accept that people disagree with you and move on :)
There's no need for backhanded flattery. You could ignore the post and move on yourself. Nobody's forcing you to read it.;):WeSmart:

I'm not asking anyone to agree or disagree with me, when most things I mentioned are explicitly stated in the story. Was just trying to point out the hypocrisy in their 'logic'.

His whole thing boils down to "If he divorced her, he'd lose half his shit".
Actually, no, my whole point boils down to "things ain't always black or white, there's a lot of grey areas in between them", and that's exactly the case in this fictional example.

it's pushing into "his wife is his property" territory. The man could do no wrong, it's his wife's fault, he had to go elsewhere for pussy.
Oh, I see how it is. It's never the woman's fault for doing what she blamed Jake for, minus the cheating part, and having all sorts of other priorities except their marriage, it's always his, the man's fault. Nice. Kamala and Biden are proud of you for saying this.

There are people actually arguing that choice 3 was the correct one.
Think you need to stop living in a fantasy world and come back to Earth, where all sorts of stupid shit happens every day simply bcz ppl don't think or don't give a shit about the consequences of their actions. I kindly recommend you go take a look on a few stats to see how many marriages and long-term relationships fail, who initiates most divorces and breakups between men and women, and what the most convenient excuses used for this are.

It's plain obvious to anyone that option 3 is the stupidest option on the list, Captain Obvious, but I'd argue here that in an already-failing marriage with kids like theirs, anyone who has options to cheat will cheat... anyone without exception.

Stop living in the 50's and come back to 2024-2025, where hookup culture, online or 'traditional' prostitution and all sorts of bullshit are promoted and even glorified. Btw, hope you also know that picking this option means by default we wouldn't be having a story to follow, so don't blame me or any of these ppl you mentioned for the devs' use of porn 'logic', cuz I'm not a cheater and would never cheat on my girl like Jake did to Allison.
 

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The MC had 3 choices:

1. Try to work on his marriage which we learn was futile
2. Divorce his wife, keep his job, perhaps have the chance of an amicable separation
3. Cheat on his wife, divorce, lose his job, have his ex-wife hate him

There are people actually arguing that choice 3 was the correct one. :KEK:
...and ofc Jake chose the 3rd one. I told you guys, he is an absolute idiot. :FacePalm:

I mean, since it's canon it's safe to say this...

Jake went to this:

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From this:

bae.jpg

The biggest downgrade in the AVN history, if you ask me. :KEK:

 

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So, you ppl hate cheaters and cheating in general, even when the ppl you try to defend have a part of the blame in the cheating, defend a spiteful bitch like Allison, who, apparently, is always the victim, but go all nuclear on V for being cheated on and/or potentially used as recreational one-night stand or casual fling at least a few times before ?? Lol, make it make sense, cuz math ain't mathing here at all.

I understand not liking her body proportions and/or her sometimes immature jealous outbursts, clingy, desperate and unreasonably insecure personality cuz of tastes and preferences, but when claiming to hate cheaters soo much, you automatically imply you sympathize with the person who got cheated on and think they deserve all the love and support they can get, and funny enough you then proceed to bash, troll and humiliate a character that's exactly this, an actual victim of cheating and/or at least one abusive relationship. It don't make sense, bois. There's an obvious double standard in this logic of yours.:whistle:
Yes, about everything else: blablablablabla fuck these lame excuses

If you think your woman treats you badly, break up and move on. Simple as that. Cheating makes the situation worse for everyone included, even for the cheater, just for short term satisfaction.
 

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...and ofc Jake chose the 3rd one. I told you guys, he is an absolute idiot. :FacePalm:

I mean, since it's canon it's safe to say this...

Jake went to this:

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From this:

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The biggest downgrade in the AVN history, if you ask me. :KEK:

LOL
Ok, that made me chuckle... a lot)
I hope you're just trolling) If not.. well :LOL::FacePalm:

If I met those two women - l would choose V over Allison in a heartbeat, it's simply a matter of taste.
Or maybe you think everybody has the same taste as you?)
 

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LOL
Ok, that made me chuckle... a lot)
I hope you're just trolling) If not.. well :LOL::FacePalm:

If I met those two women - l would choose V over Allison in a heartbeat, it's simply a matter of taste.
Or maybe you think everybody has the same taste as you?)
Same :LOL: also laughed a lot, it ends up always on personal taste, if I could chose between a curvy latina or a slim blonde bombshell I would always chose the curvy latina (not knowing their personalities ofc). Not that I don't like slim blondes too hehe but I always prefer something to grab on :ROFLMAO:.
 
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LOL
Ok, that made me chuckle... a lot)
I hope you're just trolling) If not.. well :LOL::FacePalm:

If I met those two women - l would choose V over Allison in a heartbeat, it's simply a matter of taste.
Or maybe you think everybody has the same taste as you?)
haha im a weirdo I never found V physically attractive for me but I have with characters not nearly as hot never understood why and this was on my first playthrough before I changed my mind about Allie and she became my favorite LI in this game and top 3 for AVN's in general
 
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