dolfe67

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Something has been bugging me. If you don't want it to bug you too, don't read this.
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Only the eye color bugged you ? not even triplets with different hair color, blonde, redhead and brunette ? It's an artistic choice for a porn game, you're nitpicking for nothing, there are other parts less believable than this
 

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Only the eye color bugged you ? not even triplets with different hair color, blonde, redhead and brunette ? It's an artistic choice for a porn game, you're nitpicking for nothing, there are other parts less believable than this
It's the only thing that I remember from the genetics section from biology class. ;)

I can accept that they are fraternal twins, not identical. There are enough differences between them to make that believable.

As to your statement about other parts that are less believable, everything else has a non-zero chance of occurring unlike the eye color, so try again. (notwithstanding the possibility that hair color might have the same issue as eye color)
 
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It's the only thing that I remember from the genetics section from biology class. ;)

I can accept that they are fraternal twins, not identical. There are enough differences between them to make that believable.

As to your statement about other parts that are less believable, everything else has a non-zero chance of occurring unlike the eye color, so try again. (notwithstanding the possibility that hair color might have the same issue as eye color)
I couldn't even remember that and had to look it up.^^
Remember there are no genetics in porno land or everybody would have a high probability of hereditary deceases. ;)
 

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While I personally do not care about the eye colors, I actually do get while it would bug you once you notice. (Hair genetics by the way do allow for all combinations in offspring - the dominant-recessive is less complicated there - as would skin color, there's been twins where one is dark ebony and the other a pale northern type) Of course that is the level of mistakes of which absolutely dorky nerds (like me) love reading lists how a knight uses 13th century armor with 15th century weaponry and similar.

All that doesn't take away from the fact that if you notice something like this, it has already suspended suspicion of disbelief for you, that is not a choice but something that happens involuntarily, even if many others can live with it happily. So let's go easy on localhost - it is not his choice to be bugged by it and he is factually correct. And he is not saying that the game sucks or similar.

(My pet peeve which always takes me out of a game, but so far never has stopped me enjoying something I enjoyed, is props in scenes which are obviously locally wrong - most often by having writing in the wrong language)
 
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iolkj

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I'm pretty sure you're wrong on the eye color thing and, as with the hair color, it is actully possible (while perhaps rather unlikely) for all these eye colors to occur in this scenario. This is what Wikipedia says about it:
The genetics and inheritance of eye color in humans is complicated. So far, as many as 15 genes have been associated with eye color inheritance. Some of the eye-color genes include OCA2 and HERC2. The earlier belief that blue eye color is a simple recessive trait has been shown to be incorrect.
Also keep in mind that, again while unlikely, it is possible for a single mutation to occur in one offspring that could lead to a different phenotype than expected from the parents genotypes.
 

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I'm pretty sure you're wrong on the eye color thing and, as with the hair color, it is actully possible (while perhaps rather unlikely) for all these eye colors to occur in this scenario. This is what Wikipedia says about it:

Also keep in mind that, again while unlikely, it is possible for a single mutation to occur in one offspring that could lead to a different phenotype than expected from the parents genotypes.
Yeah, I figured there might be an exception to the simplified version we all get in high school. How else could a women have a bigger dick than me in a lot of these games. ;)
 

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I'm pretty sure you're wrong on the eye color thing and, as with the hair color, it is actully possible (while perhaps rather unlikely) for all these eye colors to occur in this scenario. This is what Wikipedia says about it:

Also keep in mind that, again while unlikely, it is possible for a single mutation to occur in one offspring that could lead to a different phenotype than expected from the parents genotypes.
You beat me to it. I was going to point out random mutations as well.
If those didn't happen, everybody everywhere would have the same eye colour.
 

Cartageno

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You beat me to it. I was going to point out random mutations as well.
If those didn't happen, everybody everywhere would have the same eye colour.
While that is technically true, the odds of a random mutation in a single individual spontaneously creating a change of eye color is negligible. If it was frequently enough to take into consideration, genetics tables would be useless and it would be probable that there were way more.

But maybe, just maybe, we're putting too much thought into it and deviating from the main topic of the thread which is either accusing the devs of milking or waiting for the next story development to happen, your choice.
 

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Sure, the odds of a random mutation doing that are extremly low. I just added that because localhost said that everything had a non-zero chance but this. And I'd say it's non-zero as well. Just very, very, very unlikely.
The other argument may be more likely though. Sure, genetics table get you quite far at least with most people, but if there are several genes involved with multiple variants, there might just be a few combinations of mother and father where this could happen.
And I certainly enjoy this more than accusing the devs. At least it is some nice conversation while waiting, don't you think? ;)
 

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Sure, the odds of a random mutation doing that are extremly low. I just added that because localhost said that everything had a non-zero chance but this. And I'd say it's non-zero as well. Just very, very, very unlikely.
The other argument may be more likely though. Sure, genetics table get you quite far at least with most people, but if there are several genes involved with multiple variants, there might just be a few combinations of mother and father where this could happen.
And I certainly enjoy this more than accusing the devs. At least it is some nice conversation while waiting, don't you think? ;)
I guess the lesson for devs is let the parents manifest dominate traits so any regressive traits are masked and still likely in offspring.

And, yes, this conversation is a good time filler as we wait for the next update! (at least for a nerd like me)
 

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Sometimes children inherit their Grandparents eyes and hair. So there's always that. As we don't know what colours the MC's parents had, it's theoretically possible - especially as we're dealing with trizygotic triplets.
 

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last time I played this the only H scene was the initial after prom sex scene and one of the triplets sleepwalking seminude or something - has it been updated since then?

I dont remember how long back i played ....
 

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Sometimes children inherit their Grandparents eyes and hair. So there's always that. As we don't know what colours the MC's parents had, it's theoretically possible - especially as we're dealing with trizygotic triplets.
Well, they always inherit everything from their parents, which of course inherited their traits from their own parents, the children's grandparents, which were just not visible in their parents. But certain things cannot happen with dominant/recessive pairs. Example: people can have green or yellow earlobes, green is dominant meaning that in case you got both traits you will get green earlobes. However, the "dominant" trait does not have to be happening particularily often so it does not have to be what you see in people the most.

So if all four of grandparents are green/yellow each, they would all look green but would be capable to pass on any combination. So they can pass on yellow/yellow to their kids, the parents of our original child, which would make them yellow despite their parents being green. However, since yellow/yellow is the only trait combination that allows for yellow earlobes, there would be no "green" trait for the final kids to get green earlobes they can only inherit yellow/yellow and have yellow earlobes.

So dominant genes always include some impossibilities. If both parents seem green (dominant) their children may well look like their grandparents or even further up the line and get yellow. However if both parents look yellow (recessive) there is no way their kid can turn out green. spontaneous mutations notwithstanding.

Eye color is a bit more complicated since it depends on more than one genome, so in a simplified way it is a two step dom/rec check, but some combinations cannot occur no matter how the grandparents looked.
 
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Well, they always inherit everything from their parents, which of course inherited their traits from their own parents, the children's grandparents, which were just not visible in their parents. But certain things cannot happen with dominant/recessive pairs. Example: people can have green or yellow earlobes, green is dominant meaning that in case you got both traits you will get green earlobes. However, the "dominant" trait does not have to be happening particularily often so it does not have to be what you see in people the most.

So if all four of grandparents are green/yellow each, they would all look green but would be capable to pass on any combination. So they can pass on yellow/yellow to their kids, the parents of our original child, which would make them yellow despite their parents being green. However, since yellow/yellow is the only trait combination that allows for yellow earlobes, there would be no "green" trait for the final kids to get green earlobes they can only inherit yellow/yellow and have yellow earlobes.

So dominant genes always include some impossibilities. If both parents seem green (dominant) their children may well look like their grandparents or even further up the line and get yellow. However if both parents look yellow (recessive) there is no way their kid can turn out green. spontaneous mutations notwithstanding.

Eye color is a bit more complicated since it depends on more than one genome, so in a simplified way it is a two step dom/rec check, but some combinations cannot occur no matter how the grandparents looked.
Okay. I can accept this.
As was said earlier, we are getting farther and farther off topic here. Surprisingly, we have some understanding of genetics here but as to why we're trying to make sense from a porn game standpoint is anyone's guess. -_^
 
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Here's a first attempt at some Maddie fan art I made (hope that's OK - there's no separate thread for it yet, so Mods feel free to move). Not quite the right morphs and things in Daz. Couldn't find the right hair, not enough freckles, and probably looks a bit older than the real thing. Just think of it as Madison aged 24. Any feedback? Particular bits I didn't get right?
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