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breeper

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I'm glad you enjoyed the update! Thanks for the feedback.

This is not a bug, however, as it's normal for the *first* step in her dark path to be specific to players who initially rejected her.

Players who opted to date her, however, will later be able to activate her dark path via a different choice.

You will see this quite often, as there are various ways to unlock/activate or close off/deactivate the different relationship paths throughout the game... some specific to choices you've made earlier on, some specific to your stats with that girl, etc.
Oh I see...nvm then :)
 

breeper

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I can see a good spanking on the dark route though, but nothing too extreme with her. And even that would create an inconsistency with the MC's personality, if he was really "dark" he would have spanked her right away after she hit his balls.
I don't fully agree. If MC is dark and quick to provoke, then it would as you say, create an inconsistency if he didn't spank her immediately.

But if MC is dark and semi-smart(which he is), then he would recognize that there are too many unknowns(Who?What?Why?) in that situation. Plus if he just had his balls drained, aggression would drop post cum. I don't think it would be inconsistent if he didn't spank her immediately.

But there definitely could be some lines that internally furiously curse at her for doing that if MC is on the dark path. Maybe even during when she apologizes. Accept the apology but internally(mc's mind) he's fuming.

Also it'd be great if there's an Ecchi-Sensei-esque Dark Mind patch off of patreon. For those that want to go very dark.
 

CHAD-MAN

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It's been 10 years and these girls are 18 years old Super logic
We should do a list of crazy plot shit this game has been doing for the lols. Here, I'll start:

- Brooke decide to go virgin Mary and artificial prego herself because she was "lonely". Thats the dumbest reason I've ever heard to a girl get pregnant, especially artificially... I mean doesn't this dumb idiot ever heard of adoption?

- The MC kills a dude and his mother now wants to bang him, after trying to murder him. Excuse me, first you need to build a sexual tension by inviting said dude to do the usual sexy massage. Maybe if she has another one son the MC could end, things would go even faster...?

- The cops wife apparently can car theft. Its totally fine of her to trespass, break into the MC AND car. Its not enough she's married to a lunatic, since she's clearly one herself... but hey, she has tits, so fuck it, right? She only wants to "help" the MC.

Now you guys...
 
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CarbChoke

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So... the point system is (so far) completely meaningless or broken beyond belief. On one run-through.


Red: None, 0, 10, 0
Blonde: Darkness, 0, 3, 3
Brunette: Darkness, 0, 1, 14

On another.

Red: None, 2, 1, 8
Blonde: None, 0, 8, 0
Brunette: None, 5, 1, 0

So 3 points is enough to trigger darkness path for the blonde but 8 isn't enough for the red head? I dislike forced pathing as it makes for a meh game.
 

CitDCypher

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So I caved and played the complete game so far. I don't know what to tell yall but I just like Brooke. I most likely won't play it after that though. The reason for that is that so far you can't really reject your daughters. While it is possible to stop Liv from kissing you, later on during the talk out about it you have to admit sexual feelings for her. There is no way to reject her there. Don't even get me started the blonde daughter (lol forgot the name). Maddie is the only one that seems to be on a good (father/daughter) path. While I do understand that this is primarily a 'cest game you do have non 'cest LI options. So why not include a loving father path? I really like the Brooke path so far and would like to continue it but not at the price of fooling around with my daughters. Even when I think of playing the non 'cest version I feel like taking advantage of them. I just can't do it. Don't know if the creator of the game is going to read this but maybe think about implementing a loving Father + Brooke path.
 

ToxicMelody1

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This game would be in my top 10 but it takes forever and a day for them to make new content.... I miss my little triplets.
 

Skode

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Story has suffered a lot since the emotional and high impact debut in all honesty - making the MILF love interest character a virgin despite being a mother flies in face of more realistic writing the game started with (it took liberties but it was about a short love affair where the MC must face consequences of his actions with both parenthood and redemption with a mom to whom lost her son because of his said actions... that was different). She would have been just as adorable as a single mom who was wary of stating as much to the MC unsure of how he would react to her romantic interests as a single mom (more common than you'd think).

The obsessive neighbour was a red flag as it felt like nefarious bad guy shoe horned in far too fast without any build up (and same with the wife) and the mom who even considered taking your life issue was resolved far too fast and even is a love interest already.

Game is great but i feel like ive missed a couple of chapters never written - the neighbours wife would have been awesome if we had met her a few times and felt sympathetic to how withdrawn or miserable she seemed but distant because she knows her hubbie hates you and secretly she isnt happy with him either. A few dates with the victims mom wouldnt have gone amiss where your not wooing her but naturally you bond and find that connection despite circumstance to fall for one another and move on from sadness and remorse. Vanessa doing a complete 180 from horny waitress cucking your date to deep down shes a sweetheart in a single update was again far too fast a progression than its more jarring than wholesome. Daughters are progressing really fast too but i cant at least attribute that to their age, emotional state and circumstances so theyre not used to men, their sexual desires regarding them and all of a sudden a loving dependable male figure being there to look after them and bring joy back to their lives.

Yeah after replaying the game i cant fault this game as anything but a good game but its a very rushed one. Perhaps due to how impatient people are for updates and progress with characters. Chapter 3 should have been chapter 8 or 9 and even if your focus is the daughters then i think they too would have benefited the paths more from slower burn too (wanna corrupt the ditzy blonde, sure lets do it slowly and surely so shes not only onboard but unaware of it or romance the red head? sure lets romance her so she develops feelings for you in the romantic path vs what is basically a crush your capitalizing on yet presuming it a naturally developed romance). This should have been DMD Triplets in pace and i never thought id ever encourage anyone to follow THAT kind of VN creation given how slow and how much its dragged but these devs are great at what they do. I just fear theyre feeling too much pressure to deliver too much too fast by people who just cant help themselves (even recently here people are moping about how often the game is updated and would prob be happy if game turned to absolute dogshit so long as they didnt have to wait so long to fap to the pretty renders).
 

ION0G0

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Well, this is a pleasant surprise. As good as the art is, the writing is just as good IMO. Things move pretty quickly, but that is fine. Could this be a game where the Pure path is as good or better than the Lust path? I think maybe so.
 

Cartageno

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So... the point system is (so far) completely meaningless or broken beyond belief. On one run-through.


Red: None, 0, 10, 0
Blonde: Darkness, 0, 3, 3
Brunette: Darkness, 0, 1, 14

On another.

Red: None, 2, 1, 8
Blonde: None, 0, 8, 0
Brunette: None, 5, 1, 0

So 3 points is enough to trigger darkness path for the blonde but 8 isn't enough for the red head? I dislike forced pathing as it makes for a meh game.
Kinda torn on this one. On the one hand you are correct, it does take away any idea from the player at what a point means if they're different across girls and/or paths in their impact. Was already wondering about that with the results of the all-in screenshots earlier. Thus I will agree with "meaningless" (to the player).

"Broken" however I'd say it ain't. There is no logical reason - apart from the "transparency" issue - to have everything work on the same scale.

But yeah, it would help. Generally games with attributes will have them all on a 0-100 (or 0-20 or 1-12 or whatever) scale. We're kinda used to it.
 

yudas51

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We should do a list of crazy plot shit this game has been doing for the lols. Here, I'll start:

- Brooke decide to go virgin Mary and artificial prego herself because she was "lonely". Thats the dumbest reason I've ever heard to a girl get pregnant, especially artificially... I mean doesn't this dumb idiot ever heard of adoption?

- The MC kills a dude and his mother now wants to bang him, after trying to murder him. Excuse me, first you need to build a sexual tension by inviting said dude to do the usual sexy massage. Maybe if she has another one son the MC could end, things would go even faster...?

- The cops wife apparently can car theft. Its totally fine of her to trespass, break into the MC AND car. Its not enough she's married to a lunatic, since she's clearly one herself... but hey, she has tits, so fuck it, right? She only wants to "help" the MC.

Now you guys...
I kinda get the feeling Damned knows what he's doing and he actually writes a porn parody. I mean, everything, almost everything pointed to this from the beginning. The Chad at the party, the Redneck Daddy, the complete Situation with the triplets, the heineken Virus, the Cop in the beetle, the overly flirty waitress, the stuff you can do to Maddie while she masturbates/showers, most of the interactions with Allie, the love at first sieht with Liv, the whole thing with Nathalie, the Sackerpunch from Norah... Damned called it a porn fantasy game, but probably just have chosen the wrong word. Porn Fantasy is something like Maou Sama. And while going parody he is going the way of Scrubs which adds a sprinkle of drama.
 

Meushi

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So... the point system is (so far) completely meaningless or broken beyond belief.
"Broken" however I'd say it ain't. There is no logical reason - apart from the "transparency" issue - to have everything work on the same scale.

But yeah, it would help. Generally games with attributes will have them all on a 0-100 (or 0-20 or 1-12 or whatever) scale. We're kinda used to it.
As far as I can tell it's neither broken nor a scale issue.

At this point the relationships are being set when you make specific choices, rather than directly by a points threshold.

The only ones which can currently be set are:
alidark - take advantage of Allie when she's flaunting her butt in Ch.3
maddark - punish Maddie for not cleaning up in Ch.2 (spanking scene) [Requires dark >= 5 or mad_dark >=3 to get this scene]

Dammed previously explained the points don't have much impact this early in the game:
As for your request: this is more or less the main reason I created the Psyche and Relationship systems... and Pure/Lust/Dark are just one small facet of these systems as eventually these variables can combine and even work together. However... it's normal that you aren't seeing a lot of impact from your Psyche-profile on the plot just yet: I'm basically affording time for players stats/choices to register/build/grow so that there's no glaring conflicts or problems. Now that we're moving beyond Chapter 3 you'll start to see the Psyche-system's impact on the dialogue/flavor text more often as well as greater impact from your decisions and choices.
 
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I worry about negative criticism in this thread because I know some Devs get demoralized and it leads to abandoned games -- that would be a damn shame because this game has so much going for it.

All it'll take is a triplet heavy update and I bet my last dollar this comment section will be filled with slob-knobbing praise for the Dev team.
 
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SrRK

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So... the point system is (so far) completely meaningless or broken beyond belief. On one run-through.


Red: None, 0, 10, 0
Blonde: Darkness, 0, 3, 3
Brunette: Darkness, 0, 1, 14

On another.

Red: None, 2, 1, 8
Blonde: None, 0, 8, 0
Brunette: None, 5, 1, 0

So 3 points is enough to trigger darkness path for the blonde but 8 isn't enough for the red head? I dislike forced pathing as it makes for a meh game.
You not understanding something doesn't mean it's broken.

The "Relationship points" you can accumulate with each individual girl are not for the sole intent and purpose of triggering their "Relationship paths." These points will serve various functions & purposes and unlocking the Relationship paths is not the only one.

Instead, early on in the game, it is possible to "early-unlock" these Relationship paths through Crucial Relationship Choices (aka you're not forced into anything). It is also important to note that once you're on one of these paths, it is still possible to get off it and move onto a different path... aka one of the ways the points system can come into play later on in the game. There's nothing "meaningless" or "broken" about it as you will see as we get further into the game.

As for why you'll have more points with some girls and less with others: the answer to that is simple. Relationship points are often triggered by relationship choices. So naturally girls with whom you've made less relationship choices with will have less points. Please note you're playing a game that is "in early-access," meaning it's not yet completed and you therefore won't understand how everything works or what it's there for.

I worry about negative criticism in this thread because I know some Devs get demoralized and it leads to abandoned games -- that would be a damn shame because this game has so much going for it.

All it'll take is a triplet heavy update and I bet my last dollar this comment section will be filled with slob-knobbing praise for the Dev team.
No worries my friend. I've said it before and I'll say it again: the obnoxious and non-constructive criticism we receive here holds literally 0 weight and merit: and is often just pessimistic and mean-spirited ridicule by scorned ex-players who are upset that we didn't push out updates quickly enough.

It's a bit of an echo chamber in the sense that people get wrapped up in the back-to-back negative replies and assume that said replies reflect the majority opinion, or that it's an indication that we've done something wrong or "failed." In actuality it's just a tiny handful of people who frequent the thread & comment repeatedly... making it seem far worse than it is. Meanwhile, on a much grander scale, the number of people who love/enjoy the game vastly outweighs them. Stepping outside of F95Zone thread replies for even one minute will prove this to anyone who's skeptical.

The tiny number of people who frequent this place to complain fail to realize that they're severely outnumbered outside of their echo chamber. You just don't see many of our supporters commenting here often for obvious reasons... but they exist and there's far more of them than there are these guys.

The thousands of people who play our game, the 300+ new patrons we get every update, the 5,000+ Discord members, and the droves upon droves of positive feedback we receive will always be more important to us than 10-20 bitter ex-players/frequent forum users. As much as they wish that what I'm about to say wasn't true: their opinions have zero influence on our ability to create, our player-base, our player's opinion of the game, or the huge amount of support we receive.

No amount of screeching into the endless void will ever change that, making it little more than an effective waste of time.
 
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Spatenklopper

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lease note you're playing a game that is "in early-access,"
I then have an indirect question about that
Have you ever thought about realizing your goals that you set on patreon?

Specifically meant here is the search for team members and resources in order to be able to work on radiant in a more targeted and faster manner.

Because what you have planned for the game and the time between updates I do not know how long this will go well.
I honestly doubt the people on Patreon will be loyal to you long enough if this continues, I wish that it stays that way,
but a 0.3 version in 15 months is really not a great achievement, or do you really believe that people will wait 6 - 8 years for a "finished" game?

Please don't get it wrong now, because i love your work and the game so far, i'm just afraid that in a matter of time this will be a dead one.
 
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nchung2701

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I then have an indirect question about that
Have you ever thought about realizing your goals that you set on patreon?

Specifically meant here is the search for team members and resources in order to be able to work on radiant in a more targeted and faster manner.

Because what you have planned for the game and the time between updates I do not know how long this will go well.
I honestly doubt the people on Patreon will be loyal to you long enough if this continues, I wish that it stays that way,
but a 0.3 version in 15 months is really not a great achievement, or do you really believe that people will wait 6 - 8 years for a "finished" game?

Please don't get it wrong now, because i love your work and the game so far, i'm just afraid that in a matter of time this will be a dead one.
Of course Devs do not care if their fans will wait more than 4,5 years for a completed game. They only care how much they earn each month until the game is finished or abandoned. So this is the once per year update game, take it or leave it dude.
 

Skode

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Of course Devs do not care if their fans will wait more than 4,5 years for a completed game. They only care how much they earn each month until the game is finished or abandoned. So this is the once per year update game, take it or leave it dude.
Most us dont play porn games seeking the "complete" game. In fact the games i most enjoy including the ones i back on Patreon are the ones i never want to end - as long as i enjoy the content they can keep going for as long as they wish. Its never as black as white as "finished" or "abandoned" irrelevant of money they may or may not acquire on a month to month basis and this is the side project of the devs, its not like theyre working on other projects at the same time so consider all the facts before you take or leave anything including throwing shade at them on random forums lol
 
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Cartageno

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Most us dont play porn games seeking the "complete" game. In fact the games i most enjoy including the ones i back on Patreon are the ones i never want to end - as long as i enjoy the content they can keep going for as long as they wish. Its never as black as white as "finished" or "abandoned" irrelevant of money they may or may not acquire on a month to month basis and this is the side project of the devs, its not like theyre working on other projects at the same time so consider all the facts before you take or leave anything including throwing shade at them on random forums lol
I see where you're getting at, but I beg to differ. For one, it is also nice to have a conclusion to a story. Then again the "as long as I enjoy the content" is a pretty harsh thing. I could name a couple of games (DmD as a prime example) which - at least to me - have outstayed their welcome and in hindsight diminished the fun I had because it is less satisfying again without a conclusion.

That being said, I do enjoy the "ride" of a game in development. How things turn out (not always the way I would have preferred). But in the end, a finished game is what I am looking for, and the prospect of a finished game will make me overlook some of the more annoying aspects that may pop up during development of a game.
 

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The updates are really long but 0.3 was decent sized. Hopefully the devs can move closer to their planned update timing of about 4 months for the next updates.

Again great renders and love the trips.
 
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