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Oh sure, a babysitter better educates a child than a workaholic mother ;)
School educates, babysitters watch children when parents aren't at home. Even married couples need babysitters sometimes. Sometimes both parents have to work multiple jobs and aren't able to spend a lot of time with their children. None of that makes them bad parents.

Stop trying to shame a single parent. There are many reasons for people being single parents, most of them are not a reflection of someone's suitability to be a parent. I don't think someone wanting to be a single parent automatically makes them a bad one. As long as she cares for her daughter and gives her a safe and supportive environment to grow up in, she's a pretty good parent. There are way too many married parents who don't do that for their children.
 

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School educates, babysitters watch children when parents aren't at home. Even married couples need babysitters sometimes. Sometimes both parents have to work multiple jobs and aren't able to spend a lot of time with their children. None of that makes them bad parents.

Stop trying to shame a single parent. There are many reasons for people being single parents, most of them are not a reflection of someone's suitability to be a parent. I don't think someone wanting to be a single parent automatically makes them a bad one. As long as she cares for her daughter and gives her a safe and supportive environment to grow up in, she's a pretty good parent. There are way too many married parents who don't do that for their children.
Sorry, I can’t agree with you, and I would argue on this topic gladly, but my English is not so good so I will remain with my opinion, and you with yours.
 
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We don't have to be a writer to criticize them. Even though the premise is a little bit silly (triplets after only one shot), I was expecting something more after the v0.1; but in the end it's just porn parody with a few emotional moments. The waitress that want to bang you just by seeing you even though you're on a date is pure porn trope. A virgin mother, seriously ? The cop's subplot is ridiculous, it's just a joke. And the mother of the guy you killed is falling in love with you after only a few words exchanged. Do you really cope with loss like that ?

The emotional moments are very well done though, but the rest is too silly to take it seriously, it's not even funny. But it's just my opinion. I'll continue to play it but now I expect nothing more than regular porn.

Im not saying people can't have their opinions. nor do they have to like the game, but a lot of the complaints are from people expecting the MC to jump on his daughters and visa versa within 10 minutes. I respect your right to not enjoy the game, and my comments were not directed at people with legitimate complaints about story elements. more at the people who are annoyed that he hasnt bedded and knocked up every woman he met within 10 frames of meeting them and saying the game sucks as a result.

Also of course their will be moments that require you to exercise a little suspension of disbelief. but a few of your points are not insane as you might think imo, allow me to elaborate. Read on if you are interested in my opinion. Wont be offended if you dont :)

1- virgin mother, in 1950 that was impossible in 2021 its a routine medical procedure. not that unbelievable at all

2- Waitress, sure a bit of a stretch but if that is hardly outside the realm of possibility. Being hit on while on a date is not all that crazy, psychologically speaking, it puts some people at ease to see you on a date. its the same phenomenon that married people deal with, they appear "safe" and stable and good "mate" material since another person found you worthy of their trust etc, and while I doubt most would jump you in the bathroom, its not crazy to get hit on while on a date. Its an actual phenomenon that has been studied. Some people even wear fake rings for that very reason. Im also sure at least a few people reading this have gotten back their customer copy of the dinner check with a phone number penciled in under the thank you note from the waitress ;)

3- The cop is being written out of the story from what I understand, Ill give you that, it was very forced and jarring.

4- the mother, its been 18+ years, grief makes you do weird things and prolonged grief even stranger, its not impossible to believe that she feels some kind of connection to the MC, she has spent 18 years with all that anger and grief bottled up before boiling over when she tries to kill him and when the MC isnt the total monster she imagined him to be all those years it probably throws her whole world on its head and he is the last "connection" she has to her dead son. Its hard to determine how the mind would cope with that. Im not saying its a healthy emotion for her to have but its hardly going to spoil the game or have me label it as "yeah right!"

5- Triplets, allow me to be a statistics nerd for a moment. in 2019 there were a confirmed 3136 triplet births in the US alone. that year it was about 88 triplet births in the US per 100k births. On average 1 in 10k natural pregnancies (without any fertility drugs etc) result in triplets (odds go way up with fertility aids), about 380,000 births per day around the world means a potential of around 38 triplet births a day worldwide. 13,870 a year (roughly). So while its very rare, and those are just rough numbers, its not as rare as people think.

anyway I digress, I enjoy a good debate so I got a bit off track but then again not really since these were issues brought up as story speed bumps.
 
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Im not saying people can't have their opinions. nor do they have to like the game, but a lot of the complaints are from people expecting the MC to jump on his daughters and visa versa within 10 minutes. I respect your right to not enjoy the game, and my comments were not directed at people with legitimate complaints about story elements. more at the people who are annoyed that he hasnt bedded and knocked up every woman he met within 10 frames of meeting them and saying the game sucks as a result.

Also of course their will be moments that require you to exercise a little suspension of disbelief. but a few of your points are not insane as you might think imo, allow me to elaborate. Read on if you are interested in my opinion. Wont be offended if you dont :)

1- virgin mother, in 1950 that was impossible in 2021 its a routine medical procedure. not that unbelievable at all

2- Waitress, sure a bit of a stretch but if that is hardly outside the realm of possibility. Being hit on while on a date is not all that crazy, psychologically speaking, it puts some people at ease to see you on a date. its the same phenomenon that married people deal with, they appear "safe" and stable and good "mate" material since another person found you worthy of their trust etc, and while I doubt most would jump you in the bathroom, its not crazy to get hit on while on a date. Its an actual phenomenon that has been studied. Some people even wear fake rings for that very reason. Im also sure at least a few people reading this have gotten back their customer copy of the dinner check with a phone number penciled in under the thank you note from the waitress ;)

3- The cop is being written out of the story from what I understand, Ill give you that, it was very forced and jarring.

4- the mother, its been 18+ years, grief makes you do weird things and prolonged grief even stranger, its not impossible to believe that she feels some kind of connection to the MC, she has spent 18 years with all that anger and grief bottled up before boiling over when she tries to kill him and when the MC isnt the total monster she imagined him to be all those years it probably throws her whole world on its head and he is the last "connection" she has to her dead son. Its hard to determine how the mind would cope with that. Im not saying its a healthy emotion for her to have but its hardly going to spoil the game or have me label it as "yeah right!"

5- Triplets, allow me to be a statistics nerd for a moment. in 2019 there were a confirmed 3136 triplet births in the US alone. that year it was about 88 triplet births in the US per 100k births. On average 1 in 10k natural pregnancies (without any fertility drugs etc) result in triplets (odds go way up with fertility aids), about 380,000 births per day around the world means a potential of around 38 triplet births a day worldwide. 13,870 a year (roughly). So while its very rare, and those are just rough numbers, its not as rare as people think.

anyway I digress, I enjoy a good debate so I got a bit off track but then again not really since these were issues brought up as story speed bumps.
I actually find #3, the cop, to be the most believable. Some become cops because they believe they can help society and some become comes because of they want the power. So a power tripping cop is totally realistic. His wife on the other hand is pure silliness
 
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I actually find #3, the cop, to be the most believable. Some become cops because they believe they can help society and some become comes because of they want the power. So a power tripping cop is totally realistic. His wife on the other hand is pure silliness
(Not only directed at you, more of a general observation) However, I would say a story element should find a good balance of "realistic" and "helpful to the story". There is a certain amount of disbelief suspension we are all willing to have, especially for story premises. Magic, scifi, superpowers, evil conspiracies, benevolent conspiracies. However, it is sometimes difficult to keep going on if something gets too out of hand in details. Sure, let our hero have two lottery wins in two consecutive weeks, that's what makes him the hero of our story in the first place. Give him three more - without any good in-story explanation about a rigged lottery or similar - and we don't want it anymore.

The other thing however is benefit to the story. A bad cop certainly is the exception rather than the rule, but occurs way more often than a lottery win, so it is well within the realms of possibility and many great stories - books, movies, TV, games - feed on that. But does it help the story here? IMO not, at least as it stands right now. It just doesn't feel as an organic element of the world to me, it is just a random obstacle. Could it be woven in? Certainly, many great movies have B plots around something not too intertwined with the A plot (even though often enough later it turns out there was a connection after all). But here it is as of now completely disconnected. We could just as well have an athletics meeting coming up and our hero needs to win the half marathon. Nothing to do with anything else. I think that - combined with the feeling of "let us spend quality time with the girls first please" (where I don't mean "quality time" as a euphemism for lewds or similar, just getting to know the characters better) - is one of the main reasons the cop line is so unpopular with the crowd.
 
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Im not saying people can't have their opinions. nor do they have to like the game, but a lot of the complaints are from people expecting the MC to jump on his daughters and visa versa within 10 minutes. I respect your right to not enjoy the game, and my comments were not directed at people with legitimate complaints about story elements. more at the people who are annoyed that he hasnt bedded and knocked up every woman he met within 10 frames of meeting them and saying the game sucks as a result.

Also of course their will be moments that require you to exercise a little suspension of disbelief. but a few of your points are not insane as you might think imo, allow me to elaborate. Read on if you are interested in my opinion. Wont be offended if you dont :)

1- virgin mother, in 1950 that was impossible in 2021 its a routine medical procedure. not that unbelievable at all

2- Waitress, sure a bit of a stretch but if that is hardly outside the realm of possibility. Being hit on while on a date is not all that crazy, psychologically speaking, it puts some people at ease to see you on a date. its the same phenomenon that married people deal with, they appear "safe" and stable and good "mate" material since another person found you worthy of their trust etc, and while I doubt most would jump you in the bathroom, its not crazy to get hit on while on a date. Its an actual phenomenon that has been studied. Some people even wear fake rings for that very reason. Im also sure at least a few people reading this have gotten back their customer copy of the dinner check with a phone number penciled in under the thank you note from the waitress ;)

3- The cop is being written out of the story from what I understand, Ill give you that, it was very forced and jarring.

4- the mother, its been 18+ years, grief makes you do weird things and prolonged grief even stranger, its not impossible to believe that she feels some kind of connection to the MC, she has spent 18 years with all that anger and grief bottled up before boiling over when she tries to kill him and when the MC isnt the total monster she imagined him to be all those years it probably throws her whole world on its head and he is the last "connection" she has to her dead son. Its hard to determine how the mind would cope with that. Im not saying its a healthy emotion for her to have but its hardly going to spoil the game or have me label it as "yeah right!"

5- Triplets, allow me to be a statistics nerd for a moment. in 2019 there were a confirmed 3136 triplet births in the US alone. that year it was about 88 triplet births in the US per 100k births. On average 1 in 10k natural pregnancies (without any fertility drugs etc) result in triplets (odds go way up with fertility aids), about 380,000 births per day around the world means a potential of around 38 triplet births a day worldwide. 13,870 a year (roughly). So while its very rare, and those are just rough numbers, its not as rare as people think.

anyway I digress, I enjoy a good debate so I got a bit off track but then again not really since these were issues brought up as story speed bumps.
I'm ok with a couple silly situations that might happen rarely irl, but when a lot of those happen to the same guy within a few days it's too much for me.

1- I'm not ok with single mother conceiving without a male, but it's just my opinion. I hope it won't become more of a thing in the future irl. But when she's virgin on top of that it's really ridiculous. It's just to appeal to some porn kink. And what about a single man who want to become a father ? don't talk to me about gender equality then, feminists.

2- Sure I can see that, but the waitress was being a jerk to your date, is it a good point to get you ? If you're also a jerk, why not... And the sex with her was only to avoid "blue-ball" in the first chapter, it's nothing more than a porn game.

3- The worst part about the cop and him taking photos of MC and Olivia is the dev is anti-ntr, so we know nothing bad will happen with him, he serves no real purpose.

4- I'm not convinced, I can see her liking the MC bit by bit, but the way it happened in game with that massage was ridiculous.

5- And how many cases where the triplets are all females and 1 blonde, 1 redhead and 1 brunette ? :)
 

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I'm ok with a couple silly situations that might happen rarely irl, but when a lot of those happen to the same guy within a few days it's too much for me.

1- I'm not ok with single mother conceiving without a male, but it's just my opinion. I hope it won't become more of a thing in the future irl. But when she's virgin on top of that it's really ridiculous. It's just to appeal to some porn kink. And what about a single man who want to become a father ? don't talk to me about gender equality then, feminists.

2- Sure I can see that, but the waitress was being a jerk to your date, is it a good point to get you ? If you're also a jerk, why not... And the sex with her was only to avoid "blue-ball" in the first chapter, it's nothing more than a porn game.

3- The worst part about the cop and him taking photos of MC and Olivia is the dev is anti-ntr, so we know nothing bad will happen with him, he serves no real purpose.

4- I'm not convinced, I can see her liking the MC bit by bit, but the way it happened in game with that massage was ridiculous.

5- And how many cases where the triplets are all females and 1 blonde, 1 redhead and 1 brunette ? :)
1- :rolleyes:

2- No one forces you to have sex with her. Meeting up with her later is also a choice. Isn't it?

3- Sure. That's a problem with devs being basically forced to make their position on NTR known. It takes some mystery out of the game.

4- Hair dye? We don't know that those are their natural hair colors.
 

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5- And how many cases where the triplets are all females and 1 blonde, 1 redhead and 1 brunette ? :)
There is a 1/8 chance for non-identical triplets to be all female, however since many include identical twins (who always have the same gender) and some even are identical triplets (like here), the odds are in practice around 1/6. But as said, these very much look to be identical triplets and they will always have the same gender at birth. Odds for hair colors (as for eye colors) are indeed complicated to calculate since that's not a single yes/no or red/brown/blonde gene.

However, that is not how stories work. We don't follow a random person in a story who has something interesting happening to them (what are the odds), we do follow the guy precisely because something interesting will happen to them. So the odds of our guy having these kids are 100%, otherwise this story would just not exist.
 
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I'm ok with a couple silly situations that might happen rarely irl, but when a lot of those happen to the same guy within a few days it's too much for me.

1- I'm not ok with single mother conceiving without a male, but it's just my opinion. I hope it won't become more of a thing in the future irl. But when she's virgin on top of that it's really ridiculous. It's just to appeal to some porn kink. And what about a single man who want to become a father ? don't talk to me about gender equality then, feminists.

2- Sure I can see that, but the waitress was being a jerk to your date, is it a good point to get you ? If you're also a jerk, why not... And the sex with her was only to avoid "blue-ball" in the first chapter, it's nothing more than a porn game.

3- The worst part about the cop and him taking photos of MC and Olivia is the dev is anti-ntr, so we know nothing bad will happen with him, he serves no real purpose.

4- I'm not convinced, I can see her liking the MC bit by bit, but the way it happened in game with that massage was ridiculous.

5- And how many cases where the triplets are all females and 1 blonde, 1 redhead and 1 brunette ? :)
Man, a lot of your points don't make sense.
1- I bet that somewhere in this world there is a virgin girl with children and that she is a single mother, not only because it is possible and simple nowadays but because it is quite striking. Also, if you want to be a single father, you only have to adopt or rent a uterus and eggs, it is expensive but possible.
2- It is scientifically proven that women prefer men with a partner because they instinctively perceive him as an optimal sexual partner since it has already been validated and the more beautiful the partner is, the greater value it acquires. So if we add the above to how beautiful Brook is and the highly likely that a rather annoying waitress will serve you, the chances are not high but they are possible.
3- It is a father and his daughter kissing, believe me many things can go wrong without having to go to the sexual field.
 

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There is a 1/8 chance for non-identical triplets to be all female, however since many include identical twins (who always have the same gender) and some even are identical triplets (like here), the odds are in practice around 1/6. But as said, these very much look to be identical triplets and they will always have the same gender at birth. Odds for hair colors (as for eye colors) are indeed complicated to calculate since that's not a single yes/no or red/brown/blonde gene.

However, that is not how stories work. We don't follow a random person in a story who has something interesting happening to them (what are the odds), we do follow the guy precisely because something interesting will happen to them. So the odds of our guy having these kids are 100%, otherwise this story would just not exist.
These three are NOT identical (in Radiant) they have different eyes, hair color, and body shapes.

Liv and Allie both have hair color of recessive genes and Maddie does not. So in a gene match you would put the chance at whatever and you would more likely get it the more children you have. Here we have 3 shots all at once, so we got lucky to have 2 recessives show. It is not any kind of stretch of the mind to believe it could happen. If one popped out with green skin and had violet eyes then you might say the ridiculous chances are way too much but nothing here is at unbelievable levels.

The fact that all 3 of them will gladly be part of a harem is real life ridiculous odds but that is what we want from the AVNs like this so... it's all OK.

It feels like a search for things to hate (not on your part, but others) which begs the question, "Why be here, if it clearly isn't your preferred style?" right? (Again those others, not you)

But anyway I've met fraternal twins girl that I thought were identical because they were so close. But they knew of differences only their parents and boyfriends could see.


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These three are NOT identical (in Radiant) they have different eyes, hair color, and body shapes.

Liv and Allie both have hair color of recessive genes and Maddie does not. So in a gene match you would put the chance at whatever and you would more likely get it the more children you have. Here we have 3 shots all at once, so we got lucky to have 2 recessives show. It is not any kind of stretch of the mind to believe it could happen. If one popped out with green skin and had violet eyes then you might say the ridiculous chances are way too much but nothing here is at unbelievable levels.

The fact that all 3 of them will gladly be part of a harem is real life ridiculous odds but that is what we want from the AVNs like this so... it's all OK.

It feels like a search for things to hate (not on your part, but others) which begs the question, "Why be here, if it clearly isn't your preferred style?" right? (Again those others, not you)

But anyway I've met fraternal twins girl that I thought were identical because they were so close. But they knew of differences only their parents and boyfriends could see.


PEACE
I've grown up with identical twins three houses up the road, they were not identical and even as a "on the street playing kids" friend I could see minute but noticeable differences, especially when they were next to each other (they were of different height, small difference but obvious when they were next to each other). Then again there was another family in our street where both the three boys and the two sisters looked "identical but of a different age" (they were not tuplets of any kind but with "the same face" and so on). Actually I don't know how far differences can go with identical twins, so you are probably correct and I was a bit hasty. So the odds of all three being female are 1 in 8. Not too shabby still.
 

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Wow... just recently stumbled over this game, started playing and like it a lot.
That scene with Vanessa at the restaurant while dating Brooke was... hot!

If that's a measure for the quality of the NSFW scenes, then this is going to be one hell of a game. Render quality in general is very very good and the triplets are nothing short of gorgeous. My compliment to the developers!
 
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I've grown up with identical twins three houses up the road, they were not identical and even as a "on the street playing kids" friend I could see minute but noticeable differences, especially when they were next to each other (they were of different height, small difference but obvious when they were next to each other). Then again there was another family in our street where both the three boys and the two sisters looked "identical but of a different age" (they were not tuplets of any kind but with "the same face" and so on). Actually I don't know how far differences can go with identical twins, so you are probably correct and I was a bit hasty. So the odds of all three being female are 1 in 8. Not too shabby still.
Identical twins aren't literally identical but they don't have vastly different hair and eye colours as a rule...
 

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Ah, okay, I got fraternal and maternal mixed up here.

Yeah, I had twins in my high school as well, we used to joke "After a while you'll find subtle clues how to tell them apart. For example he is 30cm taller than she is."
And one is male the other female :D
 
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