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For those who wonder, Kagura Game release includes all new content added in the 2.0 update for the original release.
Everything is up to date. that's all.
 

EldenFZ

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Hello, I have a question, is the ntr optional or necessary? :)
Unavoidable.
She already got the dick right after the 1st day (no image shown, just new update on H stats), with her Nympho meters already half filling near lvl 2. Though I'm not sure where exactly she went off sucking someone's dick or kissing some other men two times.
 
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Hello, I have a question, is the ntr optional or necessary? :)
Look at the posts before you, it was already discussed, it's mandatory. Scenes with the Main Hero and Heroine only happens at the prologue, after day 1, every other scene of the heroine is with other people. You can play exclusively with Kouta if you want but Asuka's corruption will still continue off-screen, so she's still cheating on him. The good ending is basically Kouta halting her corruption before it gets too far.
 
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Hello, I have a question, is the ntr optional or necessary? :)
You can avoid the NTR in its entirety, but then its a short game that involves ignoring the exploration part of the game. All you do is sleep, upgrade, and fight. That is all you can do to avoid the NTR entirely (by avoiding it, I mean you are not an active partipant and you do not have to see any of it..to me that is avoidable). If you do any exploration, then it is typical unwilling blackmail/corruption turns to willing NTR scenario. Female protagonist is unwilling early but then slowly gets corrupted until she is more then willing. So, its really the players call. Speaking of which, Why doesn't this game have the CORRUPTION tag? It is a key element if you follow the H scene routes.
 
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Unavoidable.
She already got the dick right after the 1st day (no image shown, just new update on H stats), with her Nympho meters already half filling near lvl 2. Though I'm not sure where exactly she went off sucking someone's dick or kissing some other men two times.
Look at the posts before you, it was already discussed, it's mandatory. Scenes with the Main Hero and Heroine only happens at the prologue, after day 1, every other scene of the heroine is with other people. You can play exclusively with Kouta if you want but Asuka's corruption will still continue off-screen, so she's still cheating on him. The good ending is basically Kouta halting her corruption before it gets too far.

When you do not have to see a single scene, or have a hand to causing it. That is avoiding it. Definition: Avoid - stop oneself from doing (something), to keep away from, to prevent the effectiveness of. Since you are not doing doing the actual NTR, you are avoiding it by definition. The computer is doing it and therefore, you are not controlling her or witnessing it, you have avoided it.

There are a lot of NTR games out there where you have no choice but to see every scene and even cause them to happen. That is unavoidable.
 
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I don't think they "take" translations just like that, they claim they do so with translators approval if they do else they translate themselves. I did not see any translators complaining about having their work stolen. Also it does make sense to publish confirmed products (generally that what you would expect that the best games get fan translated right ?).

In this case it is separate translation i compered few lines and they sound better, better explain situation and some buggous lines now make sense. Also we get the added content that was not covered by fan translation and obviously its uncensored so i think it is worth supporting. So few NTR games get translation, vote with wallet!

Now on that matter the link in OP to DL site is censored version, the game is also on mangagamer. I wonder which shop gives them best split.


Actually what? They did translate number of games that did not have fan translation. This one i compared and its pretty clear fan translation was not used as base. Next we have so far no information if its solely Kagura that picks what to translate or game makers themselves contact them. Fan translated games will be those "better" games in general so it is sensible that they want to publish the "better" games right? It sucks for us but they are not fan translators, they are business.

I don't see how they make the games softer other then removing underage references for obvious reason. None of the games had content cut out. So what the hell with that "control what content gets sold in west" theory.
Sorry Sir, you're absolutely right. I bow down to your supreme wisdom. I'm just a measly coomer and no woke king like you.

On a serious note, I agree with your points, but who cares man? I like speculating and thinking about conspiracies. It's fun. Better than commenting "save pls" or "is this ntr? how to avoid omg". Cheers
 

EldenFZ

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When you do not have to see a single scene, or have a hand to causing it. That is avoiding it. Definition: Avoid - stop oneself from doing (something). Since you are not doing doing the actual NTR, you are avoiding it by definition. The computer is doing it and therefore, you are not controlling her or witnessing it, you have avoided it.
I think that's taking the word's meaning a bit too much out of the context. The definition's not false, yes, but let's say that I've got a girlfriend who's been an object of many men's sexual fantasy, and those men were able to have their way with her without me knowing it. Would you say that I've been able to "avoid" the NTR just because "I didn't see" any of what she did behind my back? I don't think that's how it really works.
 
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I don't quite agree with how you think they just took other fan translation just like that, it would cause a huge draw back in the community. And honestly, I don't like their official translation that much, just like how Yen press official translation for Goblin Slayer (its horrible), they maybe professional translator but they don't actually play the games or in the Manga/Anime/Eroge community to understand how to word their translation correctly and suitable.

And also I don't think they can dictate what Japanese company can or can not do in term of content. Remember that, their main market is still Japan and they make games for Japan, Western market, and Steam is a very niche market with a small number of purchase compare to sales in Japan. Just like how China is a huge market in Gaming but they don't make games to suit their regulations, which is a lot. And they can't be a monopoly when dlsite English is a thing, many circles have their own English version, and they can put their games on Steam by themself without any restriction.
Good points, I agree. I'm talking about Kagura in the future, let's say 2-5 years from now. Porn games are becoming more popular in the west and i'm interested to see the course they will take.

I don't hold anything against Kagura, they've capitalized on a niche market and I hope they do well. But it's fun to think of conspiracies. I'm purely speculating from my cum laden underwear in my basement.
 

zankantou1906

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This is obviously a game focused on NTR, but it's still good that you can actually choose to stop the blackmail even if it's not a full route.

For those who wonder, Kagura Game release includes all new content added in the 2.0 update for the original release.
Everything is up to date. that's all.
What was the new content added for 2.0?

That's what I am curious about, since the fan translated version was for an earlier version, AFAIK.
 

kiryuu777

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I love how people asking "is NTR avoidable?" in NTR game thread..lol
Im pretty sure will avoid it if i don't like NTR games..
 

cleanfeel

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I wish you guys also pay the 14 dollars for the game on Steam. We need more translated NTR games from Kagura. By not buying it, you're making it highly probable there won't be any more quality NTR games done professionally. I mean come on it's 14 dollars. That's like a single meal at mcdonalds, or half a GrubHub order.

I see so many people here bitch about MTL, well here's your chance to make a difference. 14 dollars. 2 hours working in your minimum wage job.
 

warbandit18

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That's why I was worried about this game, Ambrosia and 'Public Defense Corp' being in their list... *sigh*
Can't even blame them, just take the already existing fan-translation and sell it yourself, easy money.
Well...at least they have to put in SOME work into Ambrosia, since it just got a partial translation.
I guess I have to wait even longer for games like Explorers of the Abyss (absolutely unplayable without translation...), Summer Memories, Knights of Messiah, Magnificent Kingdom, etc to be translated... :sleep:
Wait kagura is translating Knight of Messiah? its the only game i ever finished untranslated. Its pretty good.
 
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