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petersenk

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By spending gold in armor you also increase the default percentage. But in general this upgrade is more of a temporary power up, so its worth doing for difficult missions.
hmmm, I still don't know how to feel about this (still not even sure I totally get it now) and how to manage armor upgrades... this sucks. just give me ordinary armors I can loot and rares and swap around...


There is also a "1 2 3 off" option at the bottom to skip attack animations.
Alright, got that one. Thanks! Very nice, of course I didn't see those buttons down there.


There is an advanced configuration option to SWAP the show/not show animation button.
Advanced configuration... option? Where is that? Under which tab do I need to look? Help.
 

fabulous007

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is it just me or are the CGs kinda dark for a rance game? did Rance series got darker with NTR somewhere down the line? should i stop till Sengoku rance since i only played till the 3rd old game or should I continue? can someone enlighten me honestly? I'm not really a fan of NTR, gore, gangbang rape and dark twists
If you played Sengoku Rance (unless I misunderstood) I don't even see what's you're talking about, all of this was there too (multiple times) and it was even "unavoidable". I don't see anything darker than episodes 6 or 7 here.
 
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fabulous007

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Ok, a bit of a rant, but...

I keep seeing people saying Rance 7 is THE best. I honestly can't understand for the life of me why people do seriously believe that.

Rance 7 is probably the worst of the new generation (6 and above), because it's plagued by issues on multiple levels, it's insane.

Gameplay:
- Time limited (which is something completely retarded in a RPG). Probably the biggest sin of them all. You don't do a game about collecting scenes and following a story by putting a time limit on stuff.
- Needing to be done at least 5 times (if you don't miss ANYTHING on any route), which is a gigantic time sink for nothing.
- The army battle has three mechanics which just don't belong, the time limit, the group limited amount of move, and the bar at the top. It's insane that for a game about army battle, destroying the enemy army is actually not an objective, but a mean. Because your objective is pushing this shitty bar at the top by any mean available, and destroying the enemy is only one of them. And you have to do it before some arbitrary time limit kick in, because why not, after all, everyone know that army battle is about pushing a bar before a time limit kicks in, right? The limited move here, I could have lived with, if we hadn't the other two mechanics.
- The facts you are insanely limited in move in dungeons or boss fights as well is completely non-sensical. The fact you can lose because Rance or Kentarou are out of move, and thus automatically removed is stupid.
- RNG, RNG everywhere.
- And ofc, a completely busted balance, hello Omachi.

Story:
- Without spoiler, the game has literally one relation to the rest of the story, the rest is completely irrelevant. It's a side story, not a main entry. Nothing happening here is important, outside
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. Outside of that, it's just rance gallivanting around with his old girls finding new girls.
-The true ending is not a true ending if you have to pick things from other routes into the main canon.
-The stakes are so fucking low, it's sad. Even the big bad evil is just a washed up demon from several generation ago. The consequences of winning are just "yeah, we saved the day!!!". Compare to the stakes of Rance 6...
- And obviously, the missed opportunities, like Genbou, like the Genbou castle we were in 5D. Zero mention of that anywhere.


I understand there is a lot of nostalgia because it got translated first and was alone for several years, but still, guys, try to have higher standard than that. Honestly, if you are replaying the whole serie for the story, it's a freaking easy skip for a lot of reasons.
People consider it's the best game because in a lot of aspects it is. It's not a rpg, it only has rpg elements, the main inspiration is from grand strategy games, and while that part isn't exactly as insanely elaborate as a Europa Universalis or a Crusader King, the strength of SR is that it has a bit of everthing at the same time: an intricate story with so many branches that you feel your choice actually matter (it seems you don't like having several branches, your opinion), a grand strategy game, some rpg elements, and a fantastic parody of the most popular historical period in Japan: the Sengoku Jidai (seriously if you like history you appreciate the references and what they "did" to the historical characters).
That mix is, imho, brillantly done, even if each part taken separately is relatively flawed or simple, they perfectly fit together. Combined, it make the game quite complex and addictive. No other (canon) Rance in the saga had a very elaborate gameplay, Rance 6 or Rance Quest were basic RPGs for example, older episodes were even more simplistic. I think it's kind of obvious that at least in terms of gameplay SR is the only one for which the team had to seriously scratch their heads.
I didn't do Kichikuou Rance (which isn't canon), but people say it's brillant, and was probably a big inspiration for Sengoku Rance (explaining why this episode is so different amongst the canon episodes).
And there's the ost: I did several Rance games, the ost of Sengoku Rance is the only one I found really remarquable. Considering what you can see and read on the internet, it seems this opinion is shared by most people.

Anyway, most popular games are hated for being "too popular". FF7, Ocarina of Time... I feel like I often had that argument. Each time it's debatable, but for Sengoku Rance more than any other one, I don't think this game is overrated at all inside the Rance saga.
 
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People consider it's the best game because in a lot of aspects it is. It's not a rpg, it only has rpg elements, the main inspiration is from grand strategy games, and while that part isn't exactly as insanely elaborate as a Europa Universalis or a Crusader King, the strength of SR is that it has a bit of everthing at the same time: an intricate story with so many branches that you feel your choice actually matter (it seems you don't like having several branches, your opinion), a grand strategy game, some rpg elements, and a fantastic parody of the most popular historical period in Japan: the Sengoku Jidai (seriously if you like history you appreciate the references and what they "did" to the historical characters).
That mix is, imho, brillantly done, even if each part taken separately is relatively flawed or simple, they perfectly fit together. Combined, it make the game quite complex and addictive. No other (canon) Rance in the saga had a very elaborate gameplay, Rance 6 or Rance Quest were basic RPGs for example, older episodes were even more simplistic. I think it's kind of obvious that at least in terms of gameplay SR is the only one for which the team had to seriously scratch their heads.
I didn't do Kichikuou Rance (which isn't canon), but people say it's brillant, and was probably a big inspiration for Sengoku Rance (explaining why this episode is so different amongst the canon episodes).
And there's the ost: I did several Rance games, the ost of Sengoku Rance is the only one I found really remarquable. Considering what you can see and read on the internet, it seems this opinion is shared by most people.

Anyway, most popular games are hated for being "too popular". FF7, Ocarina of Time... I feel like I often had that argument. Each time it's debatable, but for Sengoku Rance more than any other one, I don't think this game is overrated at all inside the Rance saga.
There was another game, same map, same general idea but without "Rance" mentality called "Big Bang Age". Worth trying if you haven't already :)
 
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petersenk

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Its during battle under System > Additional Config > SWAP.
Ahhhh, holy shit, I would never have found this (had to take a really good, second look even after you've told me, since it's at the top of that system sidebar).
Thanks a bunch. Way better now.
 

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I was always under the assumption Rance was a pure harem series, but I can see there is definitely potential for the girls getting raped by others??? Is it like NTR or?
I want to know too if is sharing optional,not interested in sharing girls.
Rance is, at it's core, a harem series. If the idea of characters having sex with anyone other than the protagonist bothers you, you probably wont like Rance as a franchise. A huge part of the core appeal to Rance is that it really doesn't not care about your own scruples and will not hesitate to throw colossal curve balls at you. And yes, that does include incidents of soft NTR. It's never done in a way to suggest it's to excite the viewer. Every single time it's either done up for laughs- Sengoku Rance has a side plot you can access in new game plus runs where the woman Rance has been sexually harassing the entire plot doesn't abide by porn logic and goes right back to the man she was engaged to the minute he's available- or it's not supposed to be enjoyed, period- Rance is one of the few porn game franchises that's willing to get pretty unapologetic about it.

If your concern is that Rance 'shares girls' then generally, no. I'm mostly saying it as a content warning but in Sengoku Rance the number of times you're subjected to sex scenes not involving Rance can be counted on one hand, and that's in a game with over 40 hours worth of playable content. Such scenes are rare but they do exist, and if even a little bit of it is enough to sour you on it, you probably wont like these games.

Mind you, I haven't actually played IX. I'm just talking about Rance as a franchise. Actually, now that I think about it, this is probably the second worst title to jump into the franchise for, right in front of Rance X. Alicesoft and the localizers are usually half decent at keeping people in the loop but if you haven't played at least a few of the other games in the franchise a lot is going to fly over your head. Just looking at the images shared in the OP, most of these characters have appeared in at least two games prior.
 

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finally released already.thanks bruh

Also can we put this one also on rance megathread in here?
 
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People consider it's the best game because in a lot of aspects it is. It's not a rpg, it only has rpg elements, the main inspiration is from grand strategy games, and while that part isn't exactly as insanely elaborate as a Europa Universalis or a Crusader King, the strength of SR is that it has a bit of everthing at the same time: an intricate story with so many branches that you feel your choice actually matter (it seems you don't like having several branches, your opinion), a grand strategy game, some rpg elements, and a fantastic parody of the most popular historical period in Japan: the Sengoku Jidai (seriously if you like history you appreciate the references and what they "did" to the historical characters).
That mix is, imho, brillantly done, even if each part taken separately is relatively flawed or simple, they perfectly fit together. Combined, it make the game quite complex and addictive. No other (canon) Rance in the saga had a very elaborate gameplay, Rance 6 or Rance Quest were basic RPGs for example, older episodes were even more simplistic. I think it's kind of obvious that at least in terms of gameplay SR is the only one for which the team had to seriously scratch their heads.
I didn't do Kichikuou Rance (which isn't canon), but people say it's brillant, and was probably a big inspiration for Sengoku Rance (explaining why this episode is so different amongst the canon episodes).
And there's the ost: I did several Rance games, the ost of Sengoku Rance is the only one I found really remarquable. Considering what you can see and read on the internet, it seems this opinion is shared by most people.

Anyway, most popular games are hated for being "too popular". FF7, Ocarina of Time... I feel like I often had that argument. Each time it's debatable, but for Sengoku Rance more than any other one, I don't think this game is overrated at all inside the Rance saga.
Yeah, okay, I guess we will have to agree to disagree if you think choosing a route is having "choices which actually matter", (first time I hear someone saying that seriously) or how the barebone gameplay with non-sensical elements in it is remotely close to being a grand strategy game (or worse, close to being a good one). Hell, even Eiyuu Senki is much deeper in how you deal with fights.

I mean, sure, it's a good parody of the Sengoku Era (and it's probably why it's the most popular entry of the whole serie, but it's not on its own merits), but it's not enough to make a good game.
 
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I've got a small favor to ask for those who have/are ok with Cheat Engine:
Can someone cheat this save for me and send it back to me please?! Just the Gold and Spheres is enough! I'll farm the Skill Points and EXP myself! Thanks a lot...
 
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fabulous007

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It's never done in a way to suggest it's to excite the viewer. Every single time it's either done up for laughs- Sengoku Rance has a side plot you can access in new game plus runs where the woman Rance has been sexually harassing the entire plot doesn't abide by porn logic and goes right back to the man she was engaged to the minute he's available- or it's not supposed to be enjoyed, period-
I'd argue that almost any porn scene is meant to excite at least some of the players, what you mean is probably that the scenes have major additional aims: humor or gore. But even apart from that, you forget a recurring case: when it's about the girl before she meets Rance (or even sometimes, just when he's not around for a long time). It's generally done partly for scenario purpose, 2 examples in Sengoku Rance pop in my mind (there other example in other games though): Agerida, the tribal girl who couldn't resist the Shimazu brothers, and Chinu the girl who liked to fuck around with men (probably because she knew her time was limited).
 

fabulous007

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I guess we will have to agree to disagree if you think choosing a route is having "choices which actually matter", (first time I hear someone saying that seriously)
Well, personally it's the first time I see someone considering having several routes as a bad thing. It's just a feature (which you can like or dislike), but yeah it's related to your choices and it's only a part of what I was talking about: in a single route a lot of scenes in Sengoku Rance are related to your choices, so much that it's possible to have finished the game like 6 or 7 times without having seen all the scenes. There is a lot of variations.

I mean, sure, it's a good parody of the Sengoku Era (and it's probably why it's the most popular entry of the whole serie, but it's not on its own merits)
Unfortunately, most people don't care about the history part though, it may have influenced the popularity in Japan, but it's also the most popular Rance in the west and most people in the west don't know what happened during the Sengoku Jidai.
 
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