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As far as I'm concerned, all this attention, even if it's bad, should be good ultimately for the developer. People in general, despise censorship. In fact, if it hadn't been for the PC outrage about this game, I myself wouldn't have even known of its existence.
The game has now become something much bigger than what it intended to be. Which is why I'm going to donate to this developer myself because the game has, rather ironically unintentionally, opened my eyes to the despicable bias and politics of people around the world who hypocritically cry foul on a fictional game, when games that celebrate murder, gore and blood are free to roam the nexus of the internet and monetize from it.
You miss the point, it's pretty obivious with how the game was designed, named, released and reacted from the dev, that the dev knew exactly what he is doing, the dev want people to be riled up, the dev want controversy, because controversy is exactly what he is trying to capitalize on, he's not contributing to the bigger ideal of "freedom of speech" like a whistleblower, he is trying to make himself look like a whistleblower so people like you can give him money.
 

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You miss the point, it's pretty obivious with how the game was designed, named, released and reacted from the dev, that the dev knew exactly what he is doing, the dev want people to be riled up, the dev want controversy, because controversy is exactly what he is trying to capitalize on, he's not contributing to the bigger ideal of "freedom of speech" like a whistleblower, he is trying to make himself look like a whistleblower so people like you can give him money.
A brilliant strategy, the dev deserves to make a few bucks off of this. Girl Scouts are being told that this is a bad game, so they are downloading it and playing, and they are upset when they find that they can't kill babies. Pure poetry.
 
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TranceTitan

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A brilliant strategy, the dev deserves to make a few bucks off of this. Girl Scouts are being told that this is a bad game, so they are downloading it and playing, and they are upset when they find that they can't kill babies. Pure poetry.
Well it's like I said the game's controversy is what it really is and the game itself is pretty much nothing. It's a game that will have a stirring for a little while and we're seeing it now where it will whither out and be forgotten because if a game is mediocre or bad no matter the controversy people will just forget it. There's only so many times you can argue the same points about the content before every point is exhausted.
 

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No, it most definitely acknowledges the existence of good and evil, and distinguishes the two... it suggests that evil happens for a reason, though it may not be clear to you at the time.
A child died, because they would have grown up to be a serial killer... a coping mechanism for dealing with the loss of a child.
I don't buy into the bullshit level taoism.. it isn't necessary to besmirch the memory of a loved one to grieve.
Dualism is the branch of philosophy you're more describing. In Taoism it would simply be "A child died."


Would you marry someone that was raped, or do you think they were asking for it, deserved it, their life is over they should just go somewhere and die?
Of course. Why wouldn't you marry someone that was raped? Being raped doesn't make you lesser of a person.
Now if the question was "Would you marry a rapist?" I'd have an entirely different answer.


Nothing pseudo about it the stigma of rape needs to end. Millions of people exist who have been raped, they don't go away just because you bury your head in the sand, and don't want rape stories to be published. A part of the balance between good and evil is awareness. Pretending that evil doesn't exist, does not keep it in check, it worsens the problem giving evil a foothold.
I don't believe anyone is against publishing actual accounts of rape written by the victims.

Awareness certainly helps but it doesn't solve anything in the long run. Evil only gains foothold on the plateau of weakness and the corruption of strength. Self-defense, morals, and ethics should be taught to everyone during their school years (morals and ethics before self-defense of course.) When people are capable of defending themselves, they're less likely to become victims.
 

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Dualism is the branch of philosophy you're more describing. In Taoism it would simply be "A child died."




Of course. Why wouldn't you marry someone that was raped? Being raped doesn't make you lesser of a person.
Now if the question was "Would you marry a rapist?" I'd have an entirely different answer.




I don't believe anyone is against publishing actual accounts of rape written by the victims.

Awareness certainly helps but it doesn't solve anything in the long run. Evil only gains foothold on the plateau of weakness and the corruption of strength. Self-defense, morals, and ethics should be taught to everyone during their school years (morals and ethics before self-defense of course.) When people are capable of defending themselves, they're less likely to become victims.


Now if the question was "Would you marry a rapist?" I'd have an entirely different answer.
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TranceTitan

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I don't know why I'm gonna analyze this but I guess I'm bored. This person is clearly stupid as racism doesn't always end in action it could literally be the dumb kid on a forum shouting slurs. A rapist has a confirmed physical action behind it and generally as a black male I can shrug off someone calling me a "ni**er" because it's just words at the end of the day unless it devolves into physical attacks. It comes down to actions speaking louder than words.
 

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You miss the point, it's pretty obvious with how the game was designed, named, released and reacted from the dev, that the dev knew exactly what he is doing, the dev want people to be riled up, the dev want controversy, because controversy is exactly what he is trying to capitalize on, he's not contributing to the bigger ideal of "freedom of speech" like a whistleblower, he is trying to make himself look like a whistleblower so people like you can give him money.
I think it is you who is missing the point. Even if what you said is true, the mere fact that the game was being quoted and showed out as this evil thing that needed to be censored, it gives light into what these so-called "moralist" are doing. They are the ones that will stop at nothing until their agenda is fulfilled. It wouldn't have mattered to them if the game was good or bad. They would have stuck their nose up and apply censorship with any other game with the same name or implication. In other words, if it hadn't happened to this game, it would have happened eventually to another. And you would be fooling yourself if you think it wouldn't, it was just a matter of time.
If anything, this should be opening eyes to people of the things that are happening around the world. With these apologists agendas, and brainwashing tactics. I can publically play a game about murder and death, skewing someone in the heart for no reason at all. Smack and rob a person in brought daylight and get away with it. Shoot a man in the face and rip his guts off his abdomen for fun. Developers make money of it big time. Oh but I can't rape a woman, oh no sir. I can't oversexualize a woman or call a gay man fag and hit him in the face. That's not ok, it should be censored, it should be admonished.
The controversy is there already, don't kid yourself. The person who made this game is just further exposing it. I don't give a damn if he did it for himself or to make a statement, he did a great service whether he realized or not. And I would much rather give my buck to him than these AAA gaming machine morons who spew ridiculous propaganda nonsense and apply it to their games.
 

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This isn't a new thing though and people don't need to start making rape content in games just to prove a point as to do so will just dilute the subject even more which is the irony in video game violence outcry. For years there has been no conclusive evidence of violent video games directly enticing violence despite the constant claims and research that people say it does and this spills over into other things including this game's subject matter as people think there's imitation in actions but that's causation vs correlation as just because you play games where you can rob or kill someone doesn't mean you will do it to someone in reality. This game isn't an eye opener as like I said if it weren't at first placed on Steam a public distributor with a large user base very little people would probably care as it would just be lumped with the other rape fantasy games on this very same website. Should we start holding all those games into consideration of "opening eyes to people" as the double standard has been argued plenty of times but it also depends on how grievance the subject matter is and if it is handled in a way where you can say it is the eye opener. The game's controversy was part due to the place where it first stepped foot onto.

The game itself doesn't show how bad rape is it's part of the content just like any other game on this website for the game to open people's eyes it needs a clear executed message to where people can learn from it's why people like Spec Ops The Line as a deconstruction of absurdly patriotic military shooters. This game isn't being censored because of the subject matter alone it's very tastelessly done and overall after playing it myself it wasn't even worth all the controversy as the plot and the context is either silly or nonsense.
 

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This isn't a new thing though and people don't need to start making rape content in games just to prove a point as to do so will just dilute the subject even more which is the irony in video game violence outcry. For years there has been no conclusive evidence of violent video games directly enticing violence despite the constant claims and research that people say it does and this spills over into other things including this game's subject matter as people think there's imitation in actions but that's causation vs correlation as just because you play games where you can rob or kill someone doesn't mean you will do it to someone in reality. This game isn't an eye opener as like I said if it weren't at first placed on Steam a public distributor with a large user base very little people would probably care as it would just be lumped with the other rape fantasy games on this very same website. Should we start holding all those games into consideration of "opening eyes to people" as the double standard has been argued plenty of times but it also depends on how grievance the subject matter is and if it is handled in a way where you can say it is the eye opener. The game's controversy was part due to the place where it first stepped foot onto.

The game itself doesn't show how bad rape is it's part of the content just like any other game on this website for the game to open people's eyes it needs a clear executed message to where people can learn from it's why people like Spec Ops The Line as a deconstruction of absurdly patriotic military shooters. This game isn't being censored because of the subject matter alone it's very tastelessly done and overall after playing it myself it wasn't even worth all the controversy as the plot and the context is either silly or nonsense.
The game itself isn't the point here, it is the reaction of the rape culture we live on that is the real eye-opener. Normal everyday people don't think about this stuff because they need to get on with their crappy lives and could care less about what happens in the spectrum of partisan society. However, it is very important to note that that partisan society strongly helps to shape the culture normal people live on, and thus are subject to manipulation and censorship. It may seem strange since we've had the typical violence in games for decades now, but this standing question and debate of what to allow and not to allow, which includes video games, has been going on for the same amount of time. Rape itself was never touched that deeply because developers didn't really care to put it in videogames unless it was an integral part of their game story. And sex games have always had their own category, as evidence to the use of this website even.
However, the conversation has been shifted dramatically nowadays. And it's an eye opener that we have reached this point in our society, were before we didn't have social media to discuss the issue of violence, (or promote sex game for that matter) were the propagandists are shaping the narrative to serve their purposes. And that includes not only the media and politicians but game developers and Hollywood elitists. Didn't Steam publically said they had to pull the plug on this one because it posed "unknown cost and risk" to valve?
What a telling quote that was. So inlight of this, the fact that the game was released, for whatever purpose, and the reaction that it has garnered publically as a consequence of biased articles by so-called "journalists" is more of a telling tale how the goal post has been moved for this subject of "violence" It is now explicitly "violence against this certain group of people". This is what we call tribalism.
 

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The game itself isn't the point here, it is the reaction of the rape culture we live on that is the real eye-opener. Normal everyday people don't think about this stuff because they need to get on with their crappy lives and could care less about what happens in the spectrum of partisan society. However, it is very important to note that that partisan society strongly helps to shape the culture normal people live on, and thus are subject to manipulation and censorship. It may seem strange since we've had the typical violence in games for decades now, but this standing question and debate of what to allow and not to allow, which includes video games, has been going on for the same amount of time. Rape itself was never touched that deeply because developers didn't really care to put it in videogames unless it was an integral part of their game story. And sex games have always had their own category, as evidence to the use of this website even.
However, the conversation has been shifted dramatically nowadays. And it's an eye opener that we have reached this point in our society, were before we didn't have social media to discuss the issue of violence, (or promote sex game for that matter) were the propagandists are shaping the narrative to serve their purposes. And that includes not only the media and politicians but game developers and Hollywood elitists. Didn't Steam publically said they had to pull the plug on this one because it posed "unknown cost and risk" to valve?
What a telling quote that was. So inlight of this, the fact that the game was released, for whatever purpose, and the reaction that it has garnered publically as a consequence of biased articles by so-called "journalists" is more of a telling tale how the goal post has been moved for this subject of "violence" It is now explicitly "violence against this certain group of people". This is what we call tribalism.
I got the feeling people don't want to react to it in the same way meaning it's not much of an eye opener and they need to react to it the way you think they do. Normal people can't care about every single person around them that's just how reality is and even though I am against this type of thing as much as violence stressing over everything that ails you in the world is unhealthy and a waste of time you could be helping as many people as you can. I do agree with what you said as this isn't a subject touched on a lot and personally yes....I would like for someone to tackle more sensitive topics like this but not in the way this game does it which is specifically design to be more porn styled and fetishy. Thing is though you need to tread this subject very VERY carefully and I don't think the industry is there just yet unless it's a personal edge like an indie developer.

Video game journalist are idiots (most of them at least) remember the Hatred "controversy" and how melodramatic people were being about the game's mindlessness even though just the same as this game the context was clear intent to incite a reaction though neither of those games are some moral to stand against censorship. I see a lot of people who are against this idea of propaganda you speak of as more and more people are tired of how things need to be told to them in a specified way. Bringing up Hatred again it would have been swept under the rug as a mediocre piece of nothingness if not for this style of outcry and Rape Day isn't any different but that's like I just said it's subject is clearly viewed more negatively than Hatred's though it's just the subject not the game's content which I found lackluster.
 

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I got the feeling people don't want to react to it in the same way meaning it's not much of an eye opener and they need to react to it the way you think they do. Normal people can't care about every single person around them that's just how reality is and even though I am against this type of thing as much as violence stressing over everything that ails you in the world is unhealthy and a waste of time you could be helping as many people as you can. I do agree with what you said as this isn't a subject touched on a lot and personally yes....I would like for someone to tackle more sensitive topics like this but not in the way this game does it which is specifically design to be more porn styled and fetishy. Thing is though you need to tread this subject very VERY carefully and I don't think the industry is there just yet unless it's a personal edge like an indie developer.

Video game journalist are idiots (most of them at least) remember the Hatred "controversy" and how melodramatic people were being about the game's mindlessness even though just the same as this game the context was clear intent to incite a reaction though neither of those games are some moral to stand against censorship. I see a lot of people who are against this idea of propaganda you speak of as more and more people are tired of how things need to be told to them in a specified way. Bringing up Hatred again it would have been swept under the rug as a mediocre piece of nothingness if not for this style of outcry and Rape Day isn't any different but that's like I just said it's subject is clearly viewed more negatively than Hatred's though it's just the subject not the game's content which I found lackluster.
"it wasn't even worth all the controversy as the plot and the context is either silly or nonsense" As supported by you yourself, my own point is taken. It' doesn't matter to these people the content of the game. The second you give them the narrative they are looking for to pounce on, they will take you out. For me, this was it. To pounce on such a meager game with the full-blown media backing them just so they can push their nonsense into the airways. Telling all us all how "terrible" it is, and misogynist and "I'm not gonna support Steam for this" and then proceed to cry like a baby is precisely the kind of attitude we DON'T need. You want to talk about treading this subject carefully? Tell it to those people. But they won't listen, why? Because they don't need to. They already have the moral "high" ground. Or at least, that's the goal, their version of the high ground.
I suppose I can agree with you on the notion that I too would wish that it hadn't been exposed in this way. But beggars can't be choosers. Not when these people control the airways. I believe, we have reached a point were any disturbance in their ridiculous perfect balance or high moral fantasy standards is a good one. A glitch in the matrix if you will. We don't live in a perfect world where we can have perfect debates either. Not when the debate is being largely influenced by them.
So yes, I find this game, as shitty as it is, to be worth the controversy. It's about damn time too, that someone had the gall to throw dirt out there and have the apologists cry foul and expose themselves.
 
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"it wasn't even worth all the controversy as the plot and the context is either silly or nonsense" As supported by you yourself, my own point is taken. It' doesn't matter to these people the content of the game. The second you give them the narrative they are looking for to pounce on, they will take you out. For me, this was it. To pounce on such a meager game with the full-blown media backing them just so they can push their nonsense into the airways. Telling all us all how "terrible" it is, and misogynist and "I'm not gonna support Steam for this" and then proceed to cry like a baby is precisely the kind of attitude we DON'T need. You want to talk about treading this subject carefully? Tell it to those people. But they won't listen, why? Because they don't need to. They already have the moral "high" ground. Or at least, that's the goal, their version of the high ground.
I suppose I can agree with you on the notion that I too would wish that it hadn't been exposed in this way. But beggars can't be choosers. Not when these people control the airways. I believe, we have reached a point were any disturbance in their ridiculous perfect balance or high moral fantasy standards is a good one. A glitch in the matrix if you will. We don't live in a perfect world where we can have perfect debates either. Not when the debate is being largely influenced by them.
So yes, I find this game, as shitty as it is, to be worth the controversy. It's about damn time too, that someone had the gall to throw dirt out there and have the apologists cry foul and expose themselves.
This argument goes for both sides here as the dev played everybody including everyone who played it here and payed to play it. People get their "story" about dumb rape game because "RAPE IS BAD" and they get to parrot that over and over to the ears of people who want their opinions shouted at them from another source. The other side gets their gem in the controversy of the week so they can hold the game in this high regard of being an antithesis. This is how this controversy works as you say they have the moral high ground when everyone who has ever argued in a manner of a game like this (the game where the controversy is talked about more than the actual game) already have their grounds of many standpoints. Both sides need to evaluate how they approach these topics and how they are argued otherwise it just devolves straight into flame wars with people chimping out on each other rather than the respectable platform where people can debate clearly and fairly.

The reason I don't rule the game out of the subject of the controversy is like I said how it handles its subject will be a point of contention which is why I see where this "SJW" group's arguments come from but it starts and stops there as soon as people try and pull the "if you like this game you support rape" bullshit. I've seen and interview with the dev on the game and I can say he doesn't seem like he created the game out of pure malice as people are inclined to claim he did but I feel people overrate the controversy as some grand stand against the establishment and to me the game doesn't hit hard enough to warrant it though that doesn't mean the controversy shouldn't be here as I do agree with you at least it has people uncomfortable enough to at least attempt to talk about it though from what I've seen it's like said above most of it is just internet edginess and childish bickering (again from what I've seen as I'm a little interested on the controversy and people's reaction of the game)
 
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polywog

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This person is clearly stupid
I don't recall the origin of this comedic sketch, or the actors but it goes like this... 2 guys talking about the southern states.

One says: "There's two things wrong with the south, the heat and the humidity".
The other man replies: "no, it's the hate, and the stupidity".

Post Civil War America was flooded with this type of propaganda, as the Yankees tried to justify the war of northern aggression. Perpetuating the myth that the war was about freeing slaves, when nothing could be further from the truth. Slaves in America were not free for another hundred years after the war... which makes clear the true motive of the civil war, which was to impose federal authority above individual states rights, to enslave all Americans.

While 99% of the people in the south did not own slaves, nor would they, the Yankees would have you believe that everyone they murdered was a racist who deserved it, and those who survived deserved to have their land stolen, and their states occupied by yankee soldiers to keep them in line. The land of the free died in that war.

Post WW2 Germany was likewise blamed for things they hadn't done. Civilians, women and children were raped by the victors, the country was occupied and enslaved. The German people painted as racist. False claims made about the war... saying that Hitler wanted to kill all non-whites... wanted to kill all non catholics. Dubbed The war to end all wars... conquer the world and create a new world order, with one race, and one religion. Lies, but people believed them.

It is as you say, stupid. But what better way to shake the stigma of being called a racist, than to say that you hate racists?
To display your white-guilt and portray yourself as ashamed of your heritage. Look how progressive that girl is. Were here ancestors really racists, no but people believe they were, and she wants to shake that image. Does she honestly welcome rapists with open arms? In fantasy yes. Almost all women fantasize about being raped, but in reality she's just virtue signalling... maybe not, maybe she actually has a mental illness, and wants to be raped to death, but probably not.

But befor we call her stupid, lets look a little deeper at that issue of women having rape fantasies. As I said, all Americans were enslaved after the civil war, most of Europe, and Japan after ww2. Humans are animals, deep down we want to act like animals. None of us want to be caged. We can't be animals, we can't be human in society that dictate our behavior in an inhumane way, and that's what we have in most civilized countries. People want change.

I escaped. I went and lived in the jungle. I was free. Most people haven't had that experience. If you had, you'd have a better understanding of what is wrong in the world. Once you've tasted freedom, there is no going back. There's no "rape" in the jungle. Jungle women want sex just as much as men, maybe even more.

Women fantasize about being that deer caught in the headlights, running into a man in the jungle, and letting nature take it's course. About being free to attract mates (act like a slut) and not be judged or shamed for it. To be taken, and ravaged by a man.

Games can give you a taste of freedom, even when you're forced to live in a society that isn't free. No one is being hurt in the game.

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Games can give you a taste of freedom, even when you're forced to live in a society that isn't free. No one is being hurt in the game.
Yep and there's plenty of games that explore ultimate freedom away from any law or any enforcement of actual consequence but at the end of the day reality will always have consequences even if we don't acknowledge them. Games are about the emotional immersion rather than the physical immersion as I am to believe a lot of us can tell what is fiction and what is happening in front of us that can physically effect us.

It is as you say, stupid. But what better way to shake the stigma of being called a racist, than to say that you hate racists?
To display your white-guilt and portray yourself as ashamed of your heritage. Look how progressive that girl is. Were here ancestors really racists, no but people believe they were, and she wants to shake that image. Does she honestly welcome rapists with open arms? In fantasy yes. Almost all women fantasize about being raped, but in reality she's just virtue signalling... maybe not, maybe she actually has a mental illness, and wants to be raped to death, but probably not.
This white guilt thing annoys me and it isn't specified towards just white people but people of a race who do this are infuriating. It's what I like to call accommodation through deprecation because you look at the stereotypical person of this nature and they talk about how bad white people are and how horrible they are but they don't want to project that thought further than the words. It's the idea of hoping that she probably doesn't actually have to go through the action of actually marrying a rapist but she can get those likeminded nods that go "wow she's right racist are the true scum of this earth and need to be stopped". This is the sad current reality we do live in where people can speak strong but with little to no action and call games for example out for promoting misogyny or homophobia but the thing is the context is ultimately loss because people like her I'm sure only deal in a way that is absolute to them seeing everything as an entire problem for one thing.
 

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This argument goes for both sides here as the dev played everybody including everyone who played it here and payed to play it. People get their "story" about dumb rape game because "RAPE IS BAD" and they get to parrot that over and over to the ears of people who want their opinions shouted at them from another source. The other side gets their gem in the controversy of the week so they can hold the game in this high regard of being an antithesis. This is how this controversy works as you say they have the moral high ground when everyone who has ever argued in a manner of a game like this (the game where the controversy is talked about more than the actual game) already have their grounds of many standpoints. Both sides need to evaluate how they approach these topics and how they are argued otherwise it just devolves straight into flame wars with people chimping out on each other rather than the respectable platform where people can debate clearly and fairly.

The reason I don't rule the game out of the subject of the controversy is like I said how it handles its subject will be a point of contention which is why I see where this "SJW" group's arguments come from but it starts and stops there as soon as people try and pull the "if you like this game you support rape" bullshit. I've seen and interview with the dev on the game and I can say he doesn't seem like he created the game out of pure malice as people are inclined to claim he did but I feel people overrate the controversy as some grand stand against the establishment and to me the game doesn't hit hard enough to warrant it though that doesn't mean the controversy shouldn't be here as I do agree with you at least it has people uncomfortable enough to at least attempt to talk about it though from what I've seen it's like said above most of it is just internet edginess and childish bickering (again from what I've seen as I'm a little interested on the controversy and people's reaction of the game)
Like I said, moving the goal post. What USED to be the neutral stance has shifted into a direction that the moralist decide it to be. It is very easy to say "well, I can't really say I support people that cry foul on this, but I also cannot condone the actions that have been taken against it because they are both wrong, it should be done in this fashion" That's a typical thing to say.
Look at the facts that have corroborated what has happened. What do we see? A giant outcry of ORGANIZED people who have THE power to totally dismantle this in the slightest because of xyz. Manage to publicize it for their own political gain to smear, point finger and accuse the community, not just the developer, but anyone who supports the idea of a game being freely released on a popular gaming service like Steam just because of the notion of "rape". Steam, when they themselves have said they wouldn't mingle with sex-related game (and this is not the only one either) And the one who has taken the biggest fall for this is not even the developer, banned from monetizing it, but the people and other game developers and future game developers who hope to push free-thinking ideas outside of the ghost narrative poised by the fear mongers. You think the very many of them are going to push the envelope now? Without the fear that these power hungry propagandist won't squash on them? Ridicule them and tarnish their reputation on the airways? Simply because they don't believe what they believe? How many ideas, contracts or studios could have been created? What is the repercussion of silencing them with their ghostly gavel of justice? Justice for who? their select group of people? Them? How deep does the rabbit hole go?
There is no end to this bottomless pit of lies if you let it be. Taking a stand for what is right is not immoral either. Even if these people would like to make you believe otherwise. That doesn't mean I'm condoning rape or violence, it just means that people have the right to post their crappy, sexualized or violent games into the internet if they so choose, and have a chance to monetize it without fear. And what about good, story-driven sexualized violent games? One that includes rape and shows it for wow factor? You think a developer is going to feel more or less confident or comfortable doing it now with all the hustle and bustle going on, which btw could include legal legislation. Again, how deep does the rabbit hole go? And are you willing to sacrifice everyone to find out?
I say let developers post their games out there, ESRB provided, and the normal people who go about their crappy lives trying to find some semblance in it, decide whether they like or not. Do not censor them, or remove their paycheck. Because if you do, how many else can we do the same to in accordance to our politics? How many else can we control with our "righteous" narrative? I don't know about you, but I don't see a gang of gamers in power who are fighting against these people, that want to keep you brainwashed. It's just normal people who see through this crap that are speaking out.
 

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There is no end to this bottomless pit of lies if you let it be. Taking a stand for what is right is not immoral either. Even if these people would like to make you believe otherwise. That doesn't mean I'm condoning rape or violence, it means that people have the right to post their crappy, sexualized or violent games into the internet if they so choose, and have a chance to monetize it without fear. And what about good, story-driven sexualized violent games? One that includes rape and shows it for wow factor? You think a developer is going to feel more or less confident of doing it now with all the hustle and bustle going on, which btw could include legal legislation. Again, how deep does the rabbit hole go? And are you willing to sacrifice everyone to find out?
I say let people post their games out there, ESRB provided, and the normal people who go about their crappy lives trying to find some semblance in life, decide whether they like or not. Do not censor them, or remove their paycheck. Because if you do, how many else can we do the same to in accordance to our politics.
Well that's the point I was trying to get across or maybe I didn't get it across clearly. There isn't an ultra oppressive nature when you can freely post as much insanity as you want on sites like here and many other places. Sure this place isn't Steam or but it would be a really risky and probably dumb move to try and prove a point by getting a game with this kind of content on the store shelves considering how sensitive the ESRB truly is (GTA SA was pulled from the shelves because of a mod that was virtually inaccessible and doesn't effect regular gameplay you had to go out of your way to find it even if it was in the game's coding). I am sure people will trek heavier grounds but I suppose not yet as I don't see surgence of controversial content we need to actually break through and get a wide people talking about it in a manner that isn't caustic to the product itself. There's is no zero percent chance here though we will get a game with this same subject matter handled in a fair way that people won't push back so aggressively as I said before the product's perception will dictate how people should see it. If someone can sit down and make a good, story-driven sexualized violent game as you say then it will be all worth the higher tier of controversy as people can have a cleaner debate. I mean some games on this website have pretty deep characters and mechanics but then again it's a porn game. That's also another barrier here not just the whole rape thing but this sensitivity to pornographic material. These people want accommodation for themselves so there is no group justice unless it benefits themselves and a person exactly like their line of thinking. I stand by what I said this game doesn't break it hard enough to send a shock through these people as ir gives them the ammo they need to counter it.
 

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Well that's the point I was trying to get across or maybe I didn't get it across clearly. There isn't an ultra oppressive nature when you can freely post as much insanity as you want on sites like here and many other places. Sure this place isn't Steam or but it would be a really risky and probably dumb move to try and prove a point by getting a game with this kind of content on the store shelves considering how sensitive the ESRB truly is (GTA SA was pulled from the shelves because of a mod that was virtually inaccessible and doesn't effect regular gameplay you had to go out of your way to find it even if it was in the game's coding). I am sure people will trek heavier grounds but I suppose not yet as I don't see surgence of controversial content we need to actually break through and get a wide people talking about it in a manner that isn't caustic to the product itself. There's is no zero percent chance here though we will get a game with this same subject matter handled in a fair way that people won't push back so aggressively as I said before the product's perception will dictate how people should see it. If someone can sit down and make a good, story-driven sexualized violent game as you say then it will be all worth the higher tier of controversy as people can have a cleaner debate. I mean some games on this website have pretty deep characters and mechanics but then again it's a porn game. That's also another barrier here not just the whole rape thing but this sensitivity to pornographic material. These people want accommodation for themselves so there is no group justice unless it benefits themselves and a person exactly like their line of thinking. I stand by what I said this game doesn't break it hard enough to send a shock through these people as ir gives them the ammo they need to counter it.
The problem here is that you have faith in a "good" game breaking the narrative of this kind of violence. Given what I've seen, with publication after publication. Focusing on this sole subject of smearing the idea of nonconsensual sex with a woman is the biggest issue for them. Why? Because the outrage culture has decided for it to be so. And they are the one who control the airways as I've said multiple times. There isn't an ultra-oppressive nature, yet. Again, how far are we willing to push it? How many people are going to suffer because of this? And not just in gaming, but in every form of our culture. I don't believe for one second that they wouldn't take you to the mob court of justice if they had even an ounce on you to go by.
But I think there's another point to be making here that you brought up. Because there are plenty of excellent games here that have rape on them and are not just about porn. I haven't seen them so far on Steam though, but it doesn't surprise me why. I'm sure developers are at the very least skeptical if not afraid that the same thing will happen to them. Or at least, if they weren't afraid, now they are. Unless we suddenly get a mass influx of people with the gall to request licenses to post games on steam. Then everyone here will be in trouble because the so-called egocentric, moral standing, narcissist that will make a fuss about it. Make no mistake about it, they will track this place down and ruin it. They have the power to do so. And that IS the problem.
After all, if they can do it to valve...well let's just say you either stand or you don't, you capitulate.
 

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The Olympic Games were designed to replace war. Send your best warriors to compete in games, rather than on the battlefield. It worked for a while. Games can be an outlet for aggression, without actual violence. But that's not what the powers that be want. They want to divide and conquer. To have us fighting amongst ourselves, to destroy ourselves.

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They can't stop us from making games. We outnumber them.
But we have to be smart about it. Disguise the rape as virtuous. When Beast rapes Belle, the spell is broken, darkness lifted, rainbows and unicorns. EVERY Disney movie ever made contains hidden porn, and it's not being pulled off the shelves. It's tradition!

No ugly rapists. Make him attractive, to send mixed signals that make women wonder if it was even rape at all, because they would want to fuck the guy. Women don't consider it rape when they throw themselves at some rich guy, it's not until after he fucks them and throws them aside, that the remorse sets in, and they falsely claim rape. THIS needs to happen in games more often. It happens every day in reality.

Female protagonist games where the woman builds a harem of young men, and rapes them, but it's ok because she's a sparkling vampire.

Wonder Woman's Amazon family who keep men working in the mines, and rape them purely for the purpose of procreation.
 
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The problem here is that you have faith in a "good" game breaking the narrative of this kind of violence. Given what I've seen, with publication after publication. Focusing on this sole subject of smearing the idea of nonconsensual sex with a woman is the biggest issue for them. Why? Because the outrage culture has decided for it to be so. And they are the one who control the airways as I've said multiple times. There isn't an ultra-oppressive nature, yet. Again, how far are we willing to push it? How many people are going to suffer because of this? And not just in gaming, but in every form of our culture. I don't believe for one second that they wouldn't take you to the mob court of justice if they had even an ounce on you to go by.
But I think there's another point to be making here that you brought up. Because there are plenty of excellent games here that have rape on them and are not just about porn. I haven't seen them so far on Steam though, but it doesn't surprise me why. I'm sure developers are at the very least skeptical if not afraid that the same thing will happen to them. Or at least, if they weren't afraid, now they are. Unless we suddenly get a mass influx of people with the gall to request licenses to post games on steam. Then everyone here will be in trouble because the so-called egocentric, moral standing, narcissist that will make a fuss about it. Make no mistake about it, they will track this place down and ruin it. They have the power to do so. And that IS the problem.
After all, if they can do it to valve...well let's just say you either stand or you don't, you capitulate.
A "good" game will at least provide better leverage to counter arguements while a "bad" game will exemplify their points which will be worse for everyone involved. I don't know anymore ways to answer you but I've enjoyed this experience. People just have to keep at what they want and what they're doing as you can start a revolution over night. If we want to weed out this SJW culture or whatever it may be called by other then more people need to start rising up in their own way. Remember justice is blind they may be abe to tilt it in their favor only when people let them do it and it can be thrown back at them. Like I said I don't agree with the execution but the controversy of the game shows there is light in something there is a spark there that can ignite something bigger but once again I don't have a definitive answer though I wish I did. We need to see more of the creators that tell these people to fuck off when they want something changed and it has happened just not at such an amazing magnitute and this goes for other forms of media not just gaming.
 

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As far as I'm concerned, all this attention, even if it's bad, should be good ultimately for the developer. People in general, despise censorship. In fact, if it hadn't been for the PC outrage about this game, I myself wouldn't have even known of its existence.
The game has now become something much bigger than what it intended to be. Which is why I'm going to donate to this developer myself because the game has, rather ironically unintentionally, opened my eyes to the despicable bias and politics of people around the world who hypocritically cry foul on a fictional game, when games that celebrate murder, gore and blood are free to roam the nexus of the internet and monetize from it.
Because of this "developer" Steam, who had started relaxing their rules, have now done an about turn and started banning anything they don't like the look of all thanks to the media and government attention this dickhead brought.

Now all devs suffer because of 1 wankstain.
 
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