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CainKova

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I still find it kind of weird, since I looked at them as human first and cat second. I want to make them my companions not my pets... maybe it's just me, but the whole looking for cat behaviour to confirm feelings rather than looking for human behaviour makes me thing they love me like cats not like humans, which makes me hesitant to fuck them and all... it'd be like fucking my cats... I dunno, it's just weird to me. Uncanny.
"A cat is fine too"
 

claus001

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Clearly I should have tried to go into detail instead of just making that curt response. I apologize for that and will now attempt to fix my mistake.

As I see it, for the sisters to go from being unhappy prisoners to in love with the dragon in the span of time that we have seen would be so unnatural that it could only be explained by Stockholm Syndrome. While that can absolutely be valid direction for a story to go, we already got it with Heloise and I for one want to see different things with different characters. If I'm not mistaken, you seem to be hung up on the the fact that they aren't in love NOW but I really think the building blocks ARE there for that to develop more naturally. The specifics are different for each sister so let me start with the one who is easier to explain...

Sabetha:

First of all, her wanting to leave says nothing about what she thinks of the dragon one way or the other. As hinted at in that scene as well as the one that gave a vague backstory for the sisters, she is suffering from some trauma that causes a deep fear of staying in one place too long. (it's not because she actually WANTS to leave us behind) Now imagine that we help her heal that trauma and she falls in love along the way. Wouldn't that be so much sweeter? Also, I can't help but notice that we were allowed to perform vaginal sex on the lesbian sister but not the bi sister. I wonder if that might mean that she will offer it herself after some sort of change in the relationship?;)

As for what her current feelings are... While she certainly isn't in love now I DO think she has at least some level of attachment. Aside from the fact that she had become comfortable enough around the dragon by the time she was made consort to not immediately escape; those obvious catlike things that she does in the comedic scenes are also the kind of things that a real cat is more likely to do with people they actually want to be around.

Inej:

Unlike Sabetha I do believe that Inej won't fall in love in the traditional sense. However, having a character like that become sexually close to and legitimately care about a person that they don't necessarily love in that specific way is something that has been done before and successfully in my opinion.

As for the pregnancy, her arguments about them staying for the sake of the baby would be completely moot if she didn't at least trust in the dragon to treat them well. On another note, your idea about the pregnancy being used as an excuse isn't completely destroyed just because it's real. The theory I would go with though is that she has long wanted for them to find a home where Sabetha could finally feel safe (because of the trauma) and realized that the pregnancy was a convenient excuse to prevent her sister from wasting the best chance they would likely ever have. (which again, suggests that she has put her trust in the dragon)
In short Ravager is a rape game done correctly. When will Japanese learn?
 

4MinuteWarning

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As for the pregnancy, her arguments about them staying for the sake of the baby would be completely moot if she didn't at least trust in the dragon to treat them well. On another note, your idea about the pregnancy being used as an excuse isn't completely destroyed just because it's real. The theory I would go with though is that she has long wanted for them to find a home where Sabetha could finally feel safe (because of the trauma) and realized that the pregnancy was a convenient excuse to prevent her sister from wasting the best chance they would likely ever have. (which again, suggests that she has put her trust in the dragon)
If you want to test that theory, try playing through their arc with pregnancy turned off.

Actual valid points, Another way to look at it is the Devs playing to the cat half of the girls. Sabetha, being an outdoor cat, is uncomfortable being in one place for long periods of time. Whereas Inej, indoor cat, can get comfortable in most indoor places. Not to mention, cats as a species tend not to be able to trust anything for long periods of time. with that possible fact and your points, Bob, it is a bit more understandable story wise that they aren't fully into staying.
I see you're familiar with cats as well! I have two fluffy secretaries who help me with development (and occasionally put their paws in my codebase), so I have a lot of inspiration material. Sabetha and Inej are intended to be hybrid creatures, and not just humans with funny ears :)

"A cat is fine too"
 

Jacenraze

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I see you're familiar with cats as well!
I've lived with cats, both indoor and outdoor, all my life. so yes I am familiar with them and their traits, both loveable and annoying. That's why I recognized the references. Though you might want to stick some more humanistic traits into future dialogue for other fans, just a suggestion.
 

SerHawkes

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So, for science purposes, I decided to do the gifting most of the girls to the Demons route. I have mixed feelings. Heloise being a broken bottom girl felts odd, Farm Dolly more or less being plowed over and over by horse dick (50/50 on feelings there), I will say I did like Darja's new look though as I do think it did fit her well. Still... kinda curious on the possible expansion there in regards to them. Like what if you gift them while they are pregnant? Will they truly return to us? Would Heloise, while broken, have a Naga baby still if we were to slide it in? Very much curious there.

Also, having the Kittens being consorts for the first time was sweetly wholesome. The massage scene was nice and the outcome of Inej dropping the baby bomb to have Sabby change her mind entirely really showed how much Sabby does care for her sis, inspite of her sisters lustyness for her (still gonna encourage that to kingdom come btw).
 

CainKova

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Yea make her your consort or have commanded the kobolds to bring you enough treasure that while inspecting it mia will visit you.
I did the treasure room scene, quite wholesome. But when i creampie her again she get angry. There is no variant? (sorry for the poor English)
 

SerHawkes

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I did the treasure room scene, quite wholesome. But when i creampie her again she get angry. There is no variant? (sorry for the poor English)
You might have done something wrong, like creampieing her early. To get her to love it, Consort her or do it in the treasury, then she should be okay with it.
 

myuhinny

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We can't try to help without first knowing what version your using. Like win/linux - mac - android.
 

CainKova

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You might have done something wrong, like creampieing her early. To get her to love it, Consort her or do it in the treasury, then she should be okay with it.
You might have done something wrong, like creampieing her early. To get her to love it, Consort her or do it in the treasury, then she should be okay with it.
I fucked her, but i not creampied. After that was the wholesome scene on the treasure, where i bred her. I will take a look on my save file to see if a variant is wrong.



So i promised the bastion to her, i ask a rent, on the save is saying that she is pregnant. And i treat her nice, but she stays angry when i come inside her AFTER the treasure scene. (I am on act3)
 
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404NoNamegr

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I did the treasure room scene, quite wholesome. But when i creampie her again she get angry. There is no variant? (sorry for the poor English)
Not angry as if angry as the previous scenes but this is a one time only event. When you have the option of choosing a consort, choose her and you can do it without her getting much angry but I haven't played the game for months now so Im not exactly sure about that one. You might otherwise wait for the next update were you can impregnate her. Can't imagine her getting angrier tham before.
 

OtakuGamer11

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If you want to test that theory, try playing through their arc with pregnancy turned off.
That's cheating, since I doubt the plot changes in any other example of pregnancy off. Unless you're implying the story is entirely unaffected by any pregnancy. But story gameplay segregation aside, from the perspective of someone who played with the pregnancy tag off, that's a valid argument.

Also, LMAO on the edit, that's amazing haha!

Anyway, bravo on the amazing writing. Both the characters and the lore got me really interested. I've put this game under "came for the porn, stayed for the story" list.

So, for science purposes, I decided to do the gifting most of the girls to the Demons route. I have mixed feelings. Heloise being a broken bottom girl felts odd, Farm Dolly more or less being plowed over and over by horse dick (50/50 on feelings there), I will say I did like Darja's new look though as I do think it did fit her well. Still... kinda curious on the possible expansion there in regards to them. Like what if you gift them while they are pregnant? Will they truly return to us? Would Heloise, while broken, have a Naga baby still if we were to slide it in? Very much curious there.
Personally I felt almost all choices to give a girl to a horde were inferior to just keeping them. I can't bring myself to give Heloise to anyone after having her as a consort. I legit fell in love with her. And I thought the fan girl was adorable... Well, Darja is so optimistic she just takes everything you do to her positively... which doesn't affect my conscience as much, but otherwise almost all scenarios are horrible... I guess if you're a sadist they're OK, but I want to try to get good endings with all the girls, even mean bitches like Valzira and the wolf girl.
 

SerHawkes

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Imagine if you will... Two Nagas. Malice, obviously being the "older" sibling with the second being the youngest. I could see Malice, clearly being the more dominant/Alpha of the siblings with her sister being submissive and eager to please. A bit of a rivalry of course, play fighting that gets a little intense but we can step in and tone it down. Instilling lessons of family and other various teachings to both of them. And depending on the routage, I can see a wholesome bound between the siblings, though Malice certainly would act out against any of the consorts that isn't Heloise.
 
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