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Ntrsugar

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So guys , I sent my Wolf tribe to capture Valzira but they all died after capturing her .
Is there any other way to capture Valzira without loosing the wolf tribe ?
 
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Talk to Malagar he will give you three options
go alone (it costs three days)
use the alcoholic (you need to know the spirits that live in the swamps)
and use the wolves (you need 1 point with them)
(you can recover the alcoholic in a specific mission for this)
 

Ntrsugar

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Talk to Malagar he will give you three options
go alone (it costs three days)
use the alcoholic (you need to know the spirits that live in the swamps)
and use the wolves (you need 1 point with them)
(you can recover the alcoholic in a specific mission for this)
You answering me ?
I don't understand bro .
Use the Alcoholic girl how ?
 

YouShallNotLol

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You answering me ?
I don't understand bro .
Use the Alcoholic girl how ?
You need to live in the Spire den, to get Malagar.
Speaking to malagar gives three options:
1. Do it yourself. (spend 3 days)
2. Use swamp spirits, they will possess Coochilla. (temporarily lose Coochilla)
3. Use high morale Wolves. (lose some wolves morale)
 

Zekethor

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I think you misread what the post you are quoted is saying.

Lug, like you, also chose to not sever maelys.
He is complaining that all the new content is for severed maelys, which is not even maelys but an explicitly mindless puppet because a combination of malice hating her and maelys soul collapsing from the severing and leaving only a few tattered shards of soul leftover

He is not saying that severing is better, he is complaining that players that did not sever her did not get any new content for her with the latest update which was supposed to focus on her.

I do agree with you that not severing is clearly the better choice. Now that we are informed and know that:
1. there is no fairytale solution. her belief that consensual loving sex will protect her from severing is wrong.
2. severing will destroy her soul irrevocably.
I don't know if this is exclusive to the sober Maelys, but there is a very good scene between her and Heloise, again I don't know if this scene exists with the Maelys doll and the cruel route
 

jahall

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So guys , I sent my Wolf tribe to capture Valzira but they all died after capturing her .
Is there any other way to capture Valzira without loosing the wolf tribe ?
I think that if you can get the wolf tribe's morale higher then they won't get wiped out.
 

Ntrsugar

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You can raise morale by giving them part of your treasure or by giving them some of the captives. The maximum morale is 3 and each gift increases it by 1
How to get treasure ?
After I capture Heloise Anej & Sebatha never visit me ?
When do Anej & Sabetha come with treasure ?
 

Lug30976

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How to get treasure ?
After I capture Heloise Anej & Sebatha never visit me ?
When do Anej & Sabetha come with treasure ?
The 2 cats have a trick, you must go for them on the first day and then they will appear 3 days after the time they give you has ended, what you must do is hire the mercenaries who give you a bonus of 7 additional days, it doesn't matter If you already have Mina, when the mercenaries reach the cave where you are, you can return them, although they promise that things will not stay like this. To avoid any future problems due to that decision during the coquista, I used the wolves to kill all the mercenaries.
Pd: Just don't forget to make the Kobolds create traps or they will steal the treasure you have accumulated and run away.
 

bobi121

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I really like Malice. She always has that playful aura about her but you know that she can wipe you and everything else with just a thought. She just chooses not to. And i think she really cares about her father. She is hostile towards anyone who is a threat to our character. If you make a request that she restores Maelys she plays stupid saying that she can't do it perfectly but if you want the elf restored just so you can break her again Malice does it. I think she lies to us because she remained unconvinced that Maelys will not be a threat so she shaped her in a form that will not be dangerous. She is even willing to "make her mother regret the day she was born" if it is Valzira probably because she aided in the extinction of the dragons and how hostile she is to you. That is my take anyhow. Can't wait to see more of her.
 
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Zekethor

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I really like Malice. She always has that playful aura about her but you know that she can wipe you and everything else with just a thought. She just chooses not to. And i think she really cares about her father. She is hostile towards anyone who is a threat to our character. If you make a request that she restores Maelys she plays stupid saying that she can't do it perfectly but if you want the elf restored just so you can break her again Malice does it. I think she lies to us because she remained unconvinced that Maelys will not be a threat so she shaped her in a form that will not be dangerous. She is even willing to "make her mother regret the day she was born" if it is Valzira probably because she aided in the extinction of the dragons and how hostile she is to you. That is my take anyhow. Can't wait to see more of her.
Also, I really like her a lot, and she made me curious about the future of the world. Is her goal to create a new world with different creatures, like the shapeshifter we saw, for example? She seemed to appreciate that. I'm also wondering if she has power over the past, how did the ancient Naga die? I can only think of two possibilities: either the gods killed her, or she left and is still alive. Either way, who do you think will be the antagonist of this arc? Because she seems to love Daddy a lot to turn against us. And in this world, who would have the power to oppose her? These are truly intriguing questions
 

jahall

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I really like Malice. She always has that playful aura about her but you know that she can wipe you and everything else with just a thought. She just chooses not to. And i think she really cares about her father. She is hostile towards anyone who is a threat to our character. If you make a request that she restores Maelys she plays stupid saying that she can't do it perfectly but if you want the elf restored just so you can break her again Malice does it. I think she lies to us because she remained unconvinced that Maelys will not be a threat so she shaped her in a form that will not be dangerous. She is even willing to "make her mother regret the day she was born" if it is Valzira probably because she aided in the extinction of the dragons and how hostile she is to you. That is my take anyhow. Can't wait to see more of her.
I've always thought that "Malice" was rather an unkind name to give her. Yes, she's mischievous and doesn't always understand that people might care about things that she sees as unimportant, but I don't think she's intentionally evil. If I'd chosen her name, it would have been "Mischief". (Yes, I know the player can actually call her whatever name they like, but if you choose a different name from everyone else then discussions about the game can get confusing.)
 

CarlBaker

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its says "Chanwe’s final theology lesson, all variants (Midnight Iris)." but part of her second half is not voice and also is her sun version voiced when it says all variants
 

bobi121

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Also, I really like her a lot, and she made me curious about the future of the world. Is her goal to create a new world with different creatures, like the shapeshifter we saw, for example? She seemed to appreciate that. I'm also wondering if she has power over the past, how did the ancient Naga die? I can only think of two possibilities: either the gods killed her, or she left and is still alive. Either way, who do you think will be the antagonist of this arc? Because she seems to love Daddy a lot to turn against us. And in this world, who would have the power to oppose her? These are truly intriguing questions
Mind you, i skipped 40% of the dialogue when i got impatient but from what i learned there was a Naga that as they put it "almost destroyed civilization" correct? She didn't succeed so that means that someone or something managed to kill her.
Also when it comes to a future antagonist that organization Valzira is a part of will probably have a word or two about a dragon and a naga getting their own kingdom. She used Words of Power, something that only Royal blood is supposed to have only. There are still things to be revealed and there is room for a threat to emerge.
 
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YouShallNotLol

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How to get treasure ?
After I capture Heloise Anej & Sebatha never visit me ?
When do Anej & Sabetha come with treasure ?
I don't remember how to get treasure from the top of my head.
But if you have not asked kobolds to build traps, Sabetha and Inej are not coming. Instead, they steal all treasure you had and disappear forever.
The cat thiefs lie as casually as they breathe, don't trust anything they say.
 
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Jdhale1

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There's a multitude of options and variations, of course you cant go through all of them in 1 go. I dont know what part of this surpises you. You arent meant to see everything in a game with this many choices, which actually matter. By their definition, making a choice, closes other venues. Which you are free to pursue in another playthrough. And thats a positive. Kinetic noves are effectively dead once they run their course. Variety is a good thing.

?? In what way is that important. Are you doing a full f95 ironman no-reload run of every game and this one happened to ruin your streak? What even is the problem here. Everything I wrote, i discovered through - prepare for the shocker - exploring the game. A concept that is seemingly alien to you.

No, what im actually telling you is that you learn the game by playing the game. A novel idea, I know.

No, you dont, because you still have to let go of X to get Y or Z. There is not a single choice sequence which lets you have everything, like *you* want it. And just like in life, to succeed you need to leverage your strengths and shore up your weaknesses.


The thread the needle aspect is only there if you absolutely refuse to let go of anything in the game. If you covet and hoard every single thing you can get, and wish to sacrifice nothing in return. An exceptionally greedy concept that runs against everything the game is meant to be.

And yet it is still possible to achieve.

You should be grateful that the game actually allows this. You *can* have your cake and eat it too, if you just put in the effort to discover how. Without a limitation like this one, the game is easily stompable, no contest.

No, *your* lazyness in trying to justify using cheats, in order to avoid putting actual thought in, is not an inherent fault within the game. Its all you, buddy.

Professional Clowns make $57000 a year and yet here you are doing it for free :ROFLMAO:
LOL Im definitly still playing on my orginal save didnt realize there was a walkthrough till last update and i pretty much got everyone kept everyone except the rude fuck that was valzyra
 
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