- Apr 2, 2017
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Thank you for taking the time to reply, especially to that large a chunk of me and mine nonsense.
First off, credit is where credit is due, you *are* doing a hell of a job when it comes to in depth writing in regards to lore, writing, and the characters. There is quality there, and it shows. I played through a few times more, and I remain super impressed at how the flow and conversation varies with the array of stats, and how even little bits of conversation sometimes ripple back for a second or third helping later on. That's some fun, and I am absolutely sure --exausting writing there. It is ambitious, and what it does, it does quite well. So you have every right to toot your own horn, I should think.
..You're waiting for the 'butt', right? This is where it typically goes, after all. So let's plug one in. Ish.
You mentioned that this is not a nukige, and more of a game about the pron, rather than being in it. Fair enough. And really, and at the end of the day, this is your project, your work, so it for darned sure should be on the path you want to write, verses being coaxed or forced to.
This is a typed exchange taking place on a forum of a bunch of literally porny pirates, yo ho ho ho, so obviously there is some, uh, expectations in terms of theme. Which is made all the more confusing when the plot is layed out with what is essentially "you are being watched, and required to have sex to build up enough points for the final goal if you want to be a dude again." (Assuming the player even wants that, due to a brilliant bit of deconstruction and analysis with the AI again, depending on the stats.)
The player is being dragged, possibly kicking and screaming (depending on the stats) into this bizarre new situation. Okay, fair enough. They are allowed one friend to confide in, have this strange AI pushing them into all manner of events, and thus the ground rules are established, and we are off to the races.
Only we aren't, because zach/zoey can't (in theory) reveal who they are due to a barrage of factors. For the record, I don't understand how the hell a genius such as zach thinks the advanced AI, which has proven they have access to all of their records and activities, can't sus out they are on a illegal or cracked version. And AI also said she's locked in the same boat, so she's going to be aiding zach/zoey in the first place. Anyway, zach can rely on their friend, but pretty much *only* them. So it's monogmous activity at best, for several reasons you listed earlier. zach has the body and attributes for a nukige protagonist, but won't actually be employing them, for the most part. So here we are. Unlike her sprites, she's kinda half-assed in this regard. It's a really weird, kinda of off putting feeling that I'm still trying to wrap my mind around.
A clever game about porn that posseses consideribly little actual porn, and a great deal of other potent, strange elements.
Dev, intentional or otherwise, you have hand crafted the finest Diet Coke of the adult tf genre.
(No, not caffiene free, nothing is that cruel or evil.)
But (there it is!) it can get close! Really, depending on how one goes about it, it's also downright depressing. Our crazy high IQ protag is trapped from the start between the school and his families demands, trapped by the game, trapped by the situation where they can't actually express themselves (for a time, I see the whole theatre bit in your plan, that aught to be some glorious fun), and if and when they choose a friend, they are trapped by the emotional blackmail they may or may not heap on them.
Britney for example, elated at first she was confided in, but now "she" is angry about being involved? She chooses horny over reason, and yet after being explained what zach is trapped in, this is something she gets to use as ammuntion against zoey moving forward? Nothing is forcing her to be involved, and zach/zoey is at a crazy precarious situation. And now the only other enticing curvy character is more of a combatant, rather than an ally of sexy times. Oi.
At least zach is used to emotional blackmail from his mother, I suppose. (Again, credit where credit is due, I actually loved the 'call her' alternate route, however brief. Absolutely found myself craving more of that, porn genre or not, so that's some lovely writing there.)
Also, I get that she's (Britney) strickley a no D, card carrying lesbian and proud, (unless her parents are involved) but like.. if zach/zoey is expected to change and grow for his/her partner, shouldn't Britney consider the same?
And then there is the not choosing "choice" of whom to call.. seriously, the only way to survive trapped in her own mind is to cry and beg to be saved (deciding to finally stand their ground against the unknown only gets them killed, of course) getting boned by their own body without a single curve on it, then losing the only emotional tether and companion they had left. To be continued!
Heroes journey is all about going low just so you can go high again, but daaaaang. Brutal.
Anyway, end wall of text. It kind of goes without saying, but anybody dumping walls of nonsense the dev's direction such as this is at the very least, intrigued at the concept and story.. if a little confused by the conflicting tonal shifts. Haha. So well done!
First off, credit is where credit is due, you *are* doing a hell of a job when it comes to in depth writing in regards to lore, writing, and the characters. There is quality there, and it shows. I played through a few times more, and I remain super impressed at how the flow and conversation varies with the array of stats, and how even little bits of conversation sometimes ripple back for a second or third helping later on. That's some fun, and I am absolutely sure --exausting writing there. It is ambitious, and what it does, it does quite well. So you have every right to toot your own horn, I should think.
..You're waiting for the 'butt', right? This is where it typically goes, after all. So let's plug one in. Ish.
You mentioned that this is not a nukige, and more of a game about the pron, rather than being in it. Fair enough. And really, and at the end of the day, this is your project, your work, so it for darned sure should be on the path you want to write, verses being coaxed or forced to.
This is a typed exchange taking place on a forum of a bunch of literally porny pirates, yo ho ho ho, so obviously there is some, uh, expectations in terms of theme. Which is made all the more confusing when the plot is layed out with what is essentially "you are being watched, and required to have sex to build up enough points for the final goal if you want to be a dude again." (Assuming the player even wants that, due to a brilliant bit of deconstruction and analysis with the AI again, depending on the stats.)
The player is being dragged, possibly kicking and screaming (depending on the stats) into this bizarre new situation. Okay, fair enough. They are allowed one friend to confide in, have this strange AI pushing them into all manner of events, and thus the ground rules are established, and we are off to the races.
Only we aren't, because zach/zoey can't (in theory) reveal who they are due to a barrage of factors. For the record, I don't understand how the hell a genius such as zach thinks the advanced AI, which has proven they have access to all of their records and activities, can't sus out they are on a illegal or cracked version. And AI also said she's locked in the same boat, so she's going to be aiding zach/zoey in the first place. Anyway, zach can rely on their friend, but pretty much *only* them. So it's monogmous activity at best, for several reasons you listed earlier. zach has the body and attributes for a nukige protagonist, but won't actually be employing them, for the most part. So here we are. Unlike her sprites, she's kinda half-assed in this regard. It's a really weird, kinda of off putting feeling that I'm still trying to wrap my mind around.
A clever game about porn that posseses consideribly little actual porn, and a great deal of other potent, strange elements.
Dev, intentional or otherwise, you have hand crafted the finest Diet Coke of the adult tf genre.
(No, not caffiene free, nothing is that cruel or evil.)
But (there it is!) it can get close! Really, depending on how one goes about it, it's also downright depressing. Our crazy high IQ protag is trapped from the start between the school and his families demands, trapped by the game, trapped by the situation where they can't actually express themselves (for a time, I see the whole theatre bit in your plan, that aught to be some glorious fun), and if and when they choose a friend, they are trapped by the emotional blackmail they may or may not heap on them.
Britney for example, elated at first she was confided in, but now "she" is angry about being involved? She chooses horny over reason, and yet after being explained what zach is trapped in, this is something she gets to use as ammuntion against zoey moving forward? Nothing is forcing her to be involved, and zach/zoey is at a crazy precarious situation. And now the only other enticing curvy character is more of a combatant, rather than an ally of sexy times. Oi.
At least zach is used to emotional blackmail from his mother, I suppose. (Again, credit where credit is due, I actually loved the 'call her' alternate route, however brief. Absolutely found myself craving more of that, porn genre or not, so that's some lovely writing there.)
Also, I get that she's (Britney) strickley a no D, card carrying lesbian and proud, (unless her parents are involved) but like.. if zach/zoey is expected to change and grow for his/her partner, shouldn't Britney consider the same?
And then there is the not choosing "choice" of whom to call.. seriously, the only way to survive trapped in her own mind is to cry and beg to be saved (deciding to finally stand their ground against the unknown only gets them killed, of course) getting boned by their own body without a single curve on it, then losing the only emotional tether and companion they had left. To be continued!
Heroes journey is all about going low just so you can go high again, but daaaaang. Brutal.
Anyway, end wall of text. It kind of goes without saying, but anybody dumping walls of nonsense the dev's direction such as this is at the very least, intrigued at the concept and story.. if a little confused by the conflicting tonal shifts. Haha. So well done!