Realistic Incest Plots

[Ataios]

No, its not about what they say, its about... .what things look like... somethings belong in the dark, under the blanket... lol.

Oh, ok, for those few I have seen, they had some quite sexy women - as long as they use their mouth to lick pussy. But as soon as they say something, they are far less attractive. Mostly they are portrayed as completely stupid and speaking the worst dialects possible in German on top of that. So for me German porn is ok, as long as I turn off the sound.

 

[89tasker]

No, its not about what they say, its about... .what things look like... somethings belong in the dark, under the blanket... lol.

I always wondered what is the difference between "real" and "role-play" incest porn. You can basically slap a "real incest" tag on anything; and they probably do; and there would be no way to prove them wrong.

I guess the production company could take the time to look for performers that look related...

 

[pystudios]

I know.

But realistic incest story is basically a rape story.
In most cases.

Unless you love redneck incest. Ow yeah, them brothers love them sisters. Ughugh


Come on, be real.

When have you ever heard of a nice romantic incest story in the news?
Or anywhere.

Sure let devs write about those. Because there is so many of them and so much detail is available online that there must be books worth of material, right?

Not.

How about the siblings in Germany that fought for their right to marry? They had several kids and were featured on MSNBC I believe along with a father and daughter story and a couple of others.

 

[pystudios]

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[Ataios]

I always wondered what is the difference between "real" and "role-play" incest porn. You can basically slap a "real incest" tag on anything; and they probably do; and there would be no way to prove them wrong.

I guess the production company could take the time to look for performers that look related...

They are certainly not related. That would even be illegal, if they had actual sex.

 

[pystudios]

They are certainly not related. That would even be illegal, if they had actual sex.

In some jurisdictions but that's changing as well. And rarely ever prosecuted unless another crime such as rape was committed.

 

[Joshua Tree]

Oh, ok, for those few I have seen, they had some quite sexy women - as long as they use their mouth to lick pussy. But as soon as they say something, they are far less attractive. Mostly they are portrayed as completely stupid and speaking the worst dialects possible in German on top of that. So for me German porn is ok, as long as I turn off the sound.

Oh there is a lot of nice looking females in German (European) porn, and I'm inclined to say more natural and less "modified" than what you find in like the US, but anyways. Some of the incest theme porn I come across, been rather ... how to put it, imagine you got some really ugly neighbours and they get to it in your face.

 

[pystudios]

Genetic Sexual Attraction is the sexual attraction of two family members that meet first as adults. The term was coined in the '80s by Barbara Gonyo who

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after the pair were estranged for most of his life.

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reported in 2003, "50% of reunions between siblings, or parents and offspring, separated at birth result in obsessive emotions." In other words, they feel strong sexual feelings towards one another.

 

[Joshua Tree]

I always wondered what is the difference between "real" and "role-play" incest porn. You can basically slap a "real incest" tag on anything; and they probably do; and there would be no way to prove them wrong.

I guess the production company could take the time to look for performers that look related...

Well peoples fetishes create a demand in the industry and there is always people wanting to cash in on that. Also it doesn't require to much effort to google and find communities that dedicated to incest and such lifestyle. If the actual users there is real, or just there to get off to their kinks that is another tale.

People out there that live in a incestous relationship probably doesn't want to bring to much attention to them in real life though due to the view of society and the label of taboo. But end of the day who should dictate how people feel, act and their sexual orientation as long as its concentual adults. If you look at gays, trans, etc the world come a long way to accept.

 

[Bahamut Zero]

First of all, you have to keep in mind that incest is really a very complicated thing to express.
If you wanna do an incest story you have to consider some thing first.
For example, on this site we have really some good and solid game.
Dreams of Desire, Dreaming of Dana, Dating my Daughter lol strangely they are all double D.
Another one is summertime saga. There are others too, but the plot is still at the beginning and I can not push myself to say that they are really solid for now.
But the first 3 title for example have something in common. The autor give us a solid plot with solid in game choice!
Although one of the three, unfortunately not having informed himself very well, he dyed with one of the three choices in game. The one i speak is Dreaming of Dana. I understand why he do that choice and I can not blame him. Because in the whole has really created a great plot.

Another thing that an author must keep in mind is... that it does not exist in an incestuous relationship, exchanges of couples! Or letting someone else fuck the other partner! There is no Netorare in real life! And NTR destorid all the good plot! Many on this site will think differently. Because there is always someone who dreams of destroying beautiful things. Or... but all the story are so alike, the MC who find and fuck all the girl in the game... so boring. For me taste i am really happy to see the protagonist with lot and lot of girls/woman. But I can understand the second thing. I do not understand the first thing because destroid a couple only because you are a frustrated one, is a really sad thing.

But none of them, had a true incestuous story! I instead yes. And I know very well what I'm talking about. I met others like me and they too were of the same idea. To start you have a story that you must always keep hidden, because not everyone would understand it. And 'those who understand or have a very open mind, or he/she also has one and knows how difficult it is to keep it secret. Second if you really wanna keep you story alive, almost always try to move to another area, in an area where nobody knows you. So you can be free to love and behave like every single couple.
For example organize a holiday in the mountains or at the beach, in places where as I said nobody knows you. So you can kiss, hug or make love without worries. Ofc if you story is really solid and you can then... you move to another country and end of the problem.
Let's move on to a very important point:
Jealousy is almost always high. Because she, I speak of her because I saw her behavior, I hardly noticed me.
You are constantly on the alert because you do not want to be stupid. One of the classic questions is ... with a normal girl you could have a normal life. That's why I am so jealous about other women. Ofc also i was jealouse of the other men.
There would be so many things to say, but the post would be so long that I almost laugh.

Anyway the important thing for a good game are.
1) Make a solid plot.
2) NO NETORARE. In an incest story there is not NETORARE! Also in RL there is no Netorare!
3) If you want, the MC can help is friend to find other girls! Who i mean other girls/women? Other that are just there for the plot. So for the plot you help you friend, other ppl can see other ppl fuck with other girls* So they do not complain.
4) The main goal is... MC can have a little harem. Important The harem girls/women are not related with the friends one! There are women for the harem. And women for helping friends.
Anyway the main plot is around incest.

OH yeah another important thing
Only because we are speak about incest, that does not mean that if in the story there are some other male in the family they shared the woman! There is no way that the MC shared is woman with his male cousin or perhaps is father! Or other man! You can help them to find some other woman if you want, but not you women!
To give you an example, when one of my cousins (male) discovered my relationship with another cousin (female) he tried to blackmail us. I broke his ass! We did not talk to each other for over a month. Afterwards he understood the error and came to apologize. Anyway, I hope you can get a nice plot out of it.

 

[Jimbles]

Also in RL there is no Netorare!

You make a lot of interesting points in your post. However, are you saying there is no NTR in real-life incest relationships, or there's no NTR in real-life period? Because I don't think I'd agree with the later.

 

[Bahamut Zero]

You make a lot of interesting points in your post. However, are you saying there is no NTR in real-life incest relationships, or there's no NTR in real-life period? Because I don't think I'd agree with the later.

In Rl there is cheat or betrey! But Netorare surelly not! So you wanna tell me that if you see you waman, cheating on you, you just stay there and cry and fap? I do not think! For example if i see me girl cheating on me, i broken the ass of that man and then i broken with her. Cheating/betrayal exists, but not in the vision based on Netorare.

 

[Jimbles]

In Rl there is cheat or betrey! But Netorare surelly not! So you wanna tell me that if you see you waman, cheating on you, you just stay there and cry and fap? I do not think! For example if i see me girl cheating on me, i broken the ass of that man and then i broken with her. Cheating/betrayal exists, but not in the vision based on Netorare.

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In incest relationship no! There is also no cheating. Because incest is different for a normal relationship. In a normal surelly there are cheating or betrey. But in a incest not! I know a lot of ppl who have an incest story. And i do not see anyone cheating or betrey on them. How i say incest is already hard to start.

I guess you would have to define cheating. There are plenty of dudes that enjoy watching other men have sex with their women (cuckolding). Also, given the degree of fetishes and kinks that are out there, I'm willing to bet that there is at least a handful of people that would do just that (cry and fap, or just fap). Now I won't say that it's something as common as most games seem to imply, but to say that it doesn't exist I think is too bold of a statement.

Like you said, an incest relationship would require a lot more extra effort to maintain, so I can see if a couple is willing to go through that much effort then why would they cheat with someone else.

 

[fauxplayer]

In Rl there is cheat or betrey! But Netorare surelly not! So you wanna tell me that if you see you waman, cheating on you, you just stay there and cry and fap? I do not think! For example if i see me girl cheating on me, i broken the ass of that man and then i broken with her. Cheating/betrayal exists, but not in the vision based on Netorare.

This is a rather fascinating comment. Lots of fetishes are "real-life": BDSM, voyeur, swinging, even being cucked (which seems to be a subset of voyeur and swinging, but I am not a fetish expert; it doesn't appeal to me at all, but I kinda get why someone might be aroused by the idea of watching their loved one being properly fucked by an alpha male, or whatever... I'm still not sure how that fetish works haha). But NTR, as defined... I mean, yea, who would stumble upon a scene where the woman you love is being fucked by someone else and your response to that betrayal and humiliation is sexual arousal. I guess it's possible...? I really have no idea and I am not trying to make any judgments about the NTR fetish in general. I'm just trying to learn and understand why it stirs up so many strong feelings on this forum, and this comment raised some questions I've never considered.

ETA: I still don't quite understand how, in games, the introduction of a potential competitor, another male who makes advances on the female that the MC is trying to "conquer", constitutes NTR, but it seems like every porn game with another male character to compete with gets flamed for NTR when IMO it makes the game more interesting to play because of the competition. If the game plays out where the MC has no choice but to be humiliated, then yes, that's NTR and I wouldn't like that at all.... I guess I'm just trying to say I'll never really understand haha.

 

[Jimbles]

I mean, yea, who would stumble upon a scene where the woman you love is being fucked by someone else and your response to that betrayal and humiliation is sexual arousal. I guess it's possible...?

Like my mom used to always say: a shame boner is still a boner.

 

[User_215882]

This is a rather fascinating comment. Lots of fetishes are "real-life": BDSM, voyeur, swinging, even being cucked (which seems to be a subset of voyeur and swinging, but I am not a fetish expert; it doesn't appeal to me at all, but I kinda get why someone might be aroused by the idea of watching their loved one being properly fucked by an alpha male, or whatever... I'm still not sure how that fetish works haha). But NTR, as defined... I mean, yea, who would stumble upon a scene where the woman you love is being fucked by someone else and your response to that betrayal and humiliation is sexual arousal. I guess it's possible...? I really have no idea and I am not trying to make any judgments about the NTR fetish in general. I'm just trying to learn and understand why it stirs up so many strong feelings on this forum, and this comment raised some questions I've never considered.

ETA: I still don't quite understand how, in games, the introduction of a potential competitor, another male who makes advances on the female that the MC is trying to "conquer", constitutes NTR, but it seems like every porn game with another male character to compete with gets flamed for NTR when IMO it makes the game more interesting to play because of the competition. If the game plays out where the MC has no choice but to be humiliated, then yes, that's NTR and I wouldn't like that at all.... I guess I'm just trying to say I'll never really understand haha.

Some people don't want competition, some people do, and then some people like to feel humiliated. I don't care for NTR, but NTR out of nowhere is just bullshit to me when its forced. I didn't mind it too much in BB, but holy shit did it take forever to get rid of Eric. Competition is fine when done right, but not many devs get to the point where they can do it because of the outrage people have for it. Like if youre into cucking other people theres likely going to be other males and scenes involving other men.

 

[Ataios]

This is a rather fascinating comment. Lots of fetishes are "real-life": BDSM, voyeur, swinging, even being cucked (which seems to be a subset of voyeur and swinging, but I am not a fetish expert; it doesn't appeal to me at all, but I kinda get why someone might be aroused by the idea of watching their loved one being properly fucked by an alpha male, or whatever... I'm still not sure how that fetish works haha). But NTR, as defined... I mean, yea, who would stumble upon a scene where the woman you love is being fucked by someone else and your response to that betrayal and humiliation is sexual arousal. I guess it's possible...? I really have no idea and I am not trying to make any judgments about the NTR fetish in general. I'm just trying to learn and understand why it stirs up so many strong feelings on this forum, and this comment raised some questions I've never considered.

ETA: I still don't quite understand how, in games, the introduction of a potential competitor, another male who makes advances on the female that the MC is trying to "conquer", constitutes NTR, but it seems like every porn game with another male character to compete with gets flamed for NTR when IMO it makes the game more interesting to play because of the competition. If the game plays out where the MC has no choice but to be humiliated, then yes, that's NTR and I wouldn't like that at all.... I guess I'm just trying to say I'll never really understand haha.

I understand, why you critisize the incorrect use of the term NTR, but I'm also among those people who don't want to see any male characters except for the protagonist (ideally I don't want to see any male characters in porn at all, but if there is one, he better be the protagonist and the only male character involved in any sex scenes). Any scenes involving other male characters make me angry rather than horny. Seeing the women with another man is just an extreme turn-off, even if it's just flirting or holding hands. Competition between two men is a nice story for a beat'em up or shooter, as it makes the player hate the villain even more. But certainly not what I look for in a porn game.

 

[fauxplayer]

I understand, why you critisize the incorrect use of the term NTR, but I'm also among those people who don't want to see any male characters except for the protagonist (ideally I don't want to see any male characters in porn at all, but if there is one, he better be the protagonist and the only male character involved in any sex scenes). Any scenes involving other male characters make me angry rather than horny. Seeing the women with another man is just an extreme turn-off, even if it's just flirting or holding hands. Competition between two men is a nice story for a beat'em up or shooter, as it makes the player hate the villain even more. But certainly not what I look for in a porn game.

Thank you for the explanation. I agree about the turn-off and anger when other male characters get involved. This is just my perspective, but that conflict makes the success of seducing the girl more appealing. I also get angry and turned-off by competing males in a porn game, but that conflict makes the quest more satisfying in the long run. Overcoming that challenge results in being more turned on, if that makes sense. Is there a label for a "fetish" wherein the player enjoys competition because winning intensifies the sexual gratification? And to be clear, I enjoy plenty of games where there is no competition if the characters are interesting and desirable. But playing a game where there is competition and I have to be clever to win the girl so the other guy gets nothing... I like that. (Playing a game where the MC is forced to experience his girl being "conquered" by another man is not something I like).

And since this is a thread about realistic incest plots, I've read quite a few enjoyable stories where the older brother (or sister) gets annoyed with how their sibling is in a relationship with someone undeserving, then they realize those feelings are of jealousy. The protagonist struggles with "Wait, am I simply concerned or am I jealous that my sister is hooking up with that loser?" These are real emotions that I imagine some siblings experience, but I fear that any dev trying to establish this plot would be overrun by NTR pitchforks.

 

[Bahamut Zero]

lol the real problem is that all of you are just confused about netorare. I read all the comment and all of that comment make me laugh.
Because i read... there are man who wanna see they woman fuck with other! This thing make me laugh to much!
I think you are pretty confuse here! If a man wanna see! That mean that he like that thing! That thing excited him. And if he like to see, he is not in netorare! If someone wanna see that mean that he is happy!
Netorare is not that! Netorare is when you do not wanna see! when you are forced to see. When you see and you are sad, fell pain, you are powerless, you cant do nothing! You are just a piece of shit, who cant do nothing! Only stay there and fell pain. The chuckold is another fetish that giap people put in Netorare thing.

Netorare it does not exist in the real world. You all are just confused. Again... If you are happy to see, if you wanna shared to see you woman, you just have another fetish! I think is called submission. You like being submissive and seeing things that excite you. I just wanna see, if in a case where you do not wanna, who do you all do!

And again. Do your have had an incest story? So answer me? Have you had an incest story?
This thread is based on an incest reserch. So i just wanna a sincere answer. you here say

You make a lot of interesting points in your post. However, are you saying there is no NTR in real-life incest relationships, or there's no NTR in real-life period? Because I don't think I'd agree with the later.

So i presume that you are in a incest story? Can you give me a sincere answer?

Because i had an incest story. And i can confirm on my skin, that in an incest relationship there is no netorare thing. Cheating? Perhaps, not on me, in my case perhaps i netori someone else.
Who i mean? That i had "love-sex" with me aunt "blood-related in some way" she is a cousin of my mother.
Before her i stay with me cousin (her daughter). In this case is Netori if we wanna compare the RL to a virtual game.
But netori is way better than netorare. Is just when the MC steal the woman to someone. And in most case is a bastard one who not know anything. And in all the case, both of the two women, they never cheated on me! My aunt has not had sex with her husband when we start our relationship. And my cousin no longer looked for a boyfriend, since she was engaged to me. After i meet other ppl who like me they start an incest relationship. I meet and i encourage a guy to confess to his sister. And after some time (not an easy task) they start a relationship. I also meet a son and a mother. This case was a rare one. Because in many case the mother is much older then the son. And the relationship is rare to start. But how i say in this case, the mother was a young one. She gives birth to the child at the age of 15. And she raised him alone. No husband. And in all this case, no one of them have never asked to shared or swap the couple!

Someone from outside has tried in every way to blackmail us, But in the end we have always kicked him in the ass.
Now, after years that we no longer have that kind of relationship, I still feel with many of them. And they are still happy and have never swap or shared the couples. And yes... someone had a child! A brother/sister they live together in another city and have a healthy baby. No one know that they are brother and sister. Only the closest and trusting one know all.

 

[Ataios]

I also think, when it comes to NTR, there is some difference between games and mangas or animes. Movies and books are far less immersive than games, after all there is no "I" in books and movies, while in games the player often more strongly identifies with his character. So, while NTR in movies may also appael to sadists who like to see someone suffer, in games masochism is a requirement to enjoy NTR - and NTR in games is certainly even more disturbing to an average person than in movies. Personally though I wouldn't let either an NTR movie nor an NTR game anywhere near my harddisk.

I still find it interesting, that this is the one kind of fetish that is so universally reviled. After all, this is a forum about games that focus on blackmailing your mother into sexual submission, building a harem of slaves, sex with wild furry creatures or tentacles and other stuff most people would consider utterly weird perversions. So, while I certainly cannot understand why somebody would enjoy NTR, I also think, those few people who do deserve some more tolerance.