Ren'Py Rebel Duet [v0.13b] [ionDivvy]

[Deleted member 9027410]

You do get the option to tell her she's completely free to sleep around or that you have to be there and she can't do it on her own. So I think that well covered that matter.

yes, but not the virginity question tho... and that's the reason she doesn't go all the way with the guy in the tavern...

 

[NewTricks]

In the next update this threesome scene will have a new option that allows for Lucius to take her first time. If I have enough time, I'll probably also add an alternative blowjob finish so that you can avoid penetration entirely.

It is commendable that you want to please your audience here in the forum, but you can't make everybody happy. The fetishes only get weirder from here, and that pit has no bottom. Tell the story as you want to tell it. Otherwise in a few weeks it will be "Why can't she shrink and crawl up MC's butthole" or "MC castration when?"

 

[prpa]

As much as NTS fans complain about the haters, they can be just as bad. For fuck's sake, who cares that MC took her virginity? You can share her to your heart's content after that.

Dev should just make the game he wants and ignore the whiners.

 

[jonquilnatrix]

Well curiosity killed the cat, this time literally =P

I'm just glad it wasn't a game over screen and just sends you back to the choice, I had saved on the choice just in case xD

There is an achievement for getting bad endings... So since they don't cause an actual game over I suspect that the mod picking the "wrong" choice was intentional so that the player gets the achievement.

On a different note...

Minor thing, but this line in the update threw me a bit:

mc "I think you mentioned that succubi don't get pregnant from human sperm."

Was this a conversation we were supposed to have been privy to or was it supposed to have happened off-screen? Because I'm fairly certain that the only mention of pregnancy or human sperm took place strictly in Val's head before she decides to let a nameless man at the tavern cum inside her:

man "Where should I..."
val "{i}(I can't get pregnant from human sperm.){/i}"
val "{i}(And I want it... I want to feel full of energy...){/i}"
scene act3 tavern malesex 1-22
with dissolvesemisemilong
val "Inside!"
val "Cum inside me—!"

Did a search of the script and couldn't find any reference to her making any similar remark out loud to the MC?

 

[prpa]

Did a search of the script and couldn't find any reference to her making any similar remark out loud to the MC?

The MC can ask her how succubi reproduce, it's during their second Q&A, I believe. It's also hinted there could be a way for the MC to get her pregnant (I don't remember the answer clearly), though that's strictly forbidden by succubi government/council/whatever.

 

[Monty10]

Swinging tag?!
does the game has MC sharing his gf with other men?

 

[Rehwyn]

There is an achievement for getting bad endings... So since they don't cause an actual game over I suspect that the mod picking the "wrong" choice was intentional so that the player gets the achievement.

On a different note...

Minor thing, but this line in the update threw me a bit:

mc "I think you mentioned that succubi don't get pregnant from human sperm."

Was this a conversation we were supposed to have been privy to or was it supposed to have happened off-screen? Because I'm fairly certain that the only mention of pregnancy or human sperm took place strictly in Val's head before she decides to let a nameless man at the tavern cum inside her:

man "Where should I..."
val "{i}(I can't get pregnant from human sperm.){/i}"
val "{i}(And I want it... I want to feel full of energy...){/i}"
scene act3 tavern malesex 1-22
with dissolvesemisemilong
val "Inside!"
val "Cum inside me—!"

Did a search of the script and couldn't find any reference to her making any similar remark out loud to the MC?

It might have been a discussion offscreen, but I suspect it might also just be that ionDivvy forgot we've only discussed this in Discord.

The MC can ask her how succubi reproduce, it's during their second Q&A, I believe. It's also hinted there could be a way for the MC to get her pregnant (I don't remember the answer clearly), though that's strictly forbidden by succubi government/council/whatever.

She says that there have been rumors that there might be a way, but discussing the rumors is forbidden because it's considered heresy. She doesn't think it's possible, but can't say for sure.

Swinging tag?!
does the game has MC sharing his gf with other men?

It's entirely optional. You can have a variety of relationship structures from monogamous to open-sharing/swinging.

Also, you can play as either male or female MC.

 

[sp4ckj4rr0w_420]

Swinging tag?!
does the game has MC sharing his gf with other men?

You can choose for it, yes. You can also set up an open harem, where the girls only get it on with the mc or with each other. Or go for solo path.

 

[Rehwyn]

You can choose for it, yes. You can also set up an open harem, where the girls only get it on with the mc or with each other. Or go for solo path.

You can also have a "monogamous" harem where the LIs are only with MC in the harem.

Personally I went open-sharing though for max fun for everyone.

 

[sp4ckj4rr0w_420]

You can also have a "monogamous" harem where the LIs are only with MC in the harem.

Personally I went open-sharing though for max fun for everyone.

Yeah me too. Also its more cost effective for recharging energy for Val if the mc were to be unavailable xD

 

[Deleted member 9027410]

It is commendable that you want to please your audience here in the forum, but you can't make everybody happy. The fetishes only get weirder from here, and that pit has no bottom. Tell the story as you want to tell it. Otherwise in a few weeks it will be "Why can't she shrink and crawl up MC's butthole" or "MC castration when?"

No one is telling him to change the story, just giving different options which make sense. The game takes the idea of virginity seriously to the point it tracks, yet in the end forced the player to do it anyway, if there was no mention of virginity then, no one would bother. So, don't just through comment without the context of the discussion here....

 

[Deleted member 9027410]

As much as NTS fans complain about the haters, they can be just as bad. For fuck's sake, who cares that MC took her virginity? You can share her to your heart's content after that.

Dev should just make the game he wants and ignore the whiners.

Did you play the game. The game cares about the virginity not the player. If there was no mention or significance in the story no one would bother.......

 

[prpa]

Did you play the game. The game cares about the virginity not the player. If there was no mention or significance in the story no one would bother.......

Yes, I played the game. Could you please explain the significance (if any) of someone else taking her virginity instead of the main character? I genuinely don't remember. It's mentioned in the stats, but I don't recall anything beyond that.

 

[Rehwyn]

Yes, I played the game. Could you please explain the significance (if any) of someone else taking her virginity instead of the main character? I genuinely don't remember. It's mentioned in the stats, but I don't recall anything beyond that.

There's some minor dialogue differences in some sex scenes if it's the first time for Val. But other than that, it's mostly just mentioned in Stats.

There is similar stat tracking in ionDivvy's first game (with similar minor impacts), so it's likely there partially because of that.

 

[prpa]

There's some minor dialogue differences in some sex scenes if it's the first time for Val. But other than that, it's mostly just mentioned in Stats.

Yeah, like I said, it has almost no significance on the story, he was just talking out of his ass.

 

[NewTricks]

No one is telling him to change the story, just giving different options which make sense. The game takes the idea of virginity seriously to the point it tracks, yet in the end forced the player to do it anyway, if there was no mention of virginity then, no one would bother. So, don't just through comment without the context of the discussion here....

Umm. You missed the part where SHE is who wants MC to be her first. You know, because of love and shit. Plus, he (or she?) probably just tastes the best to her. It is easy to just throw away the idea that even a succubus is a person with their own thoughts, feelings, and desires because she seems to be pretty down with everything. But would it really kill you to give her one thing that she wants, which is a non-negotiable for her? It would be a refreshing change of pace.

 

[prpa]

Umm. You missed the part where SHE is who wants MC to be her first. You know, because of love and shit. Plus, he (or she?) probably just tastes the best to her. It is easy to just throw away the idea that even a succubus is a person with their own thoughts, feelings, and desires because she seems to be pretty down with everything. But would it really kill you to give her one thing that she wants, which is a non-negotiable for her? It would be a refreshing change of pace.

Story and Val's feelings be damned, the sharing kink takes precedence over everything for some people, which is honestly sad.

That’s why I always advocate for developers not to listen to people who demand changes to the game, you can never please everybody, and it only makes game worse in the end.

 

[Rehwyn]

Story and Val's feelings be damned, the sharing kink takes precedence over everything for some people, which is honestly sad.

That’s why I always advocate for developers not to listen to people who demand changes to the game, you can never please everybody, and it only makes game worse in the end.

Worth noting that the dev enjoys sharing/swinging content; there's quite a bit of optional content like that in their other game as well. So the inclusion of that here isn't likely because of player influence but because the dev wants it.

In this particular case, retroactively adding an option for Lucian to be her first for this scene probably isn't hard because there's already a version of the MMF scene where Lucian does the penetrating. So likely it won't need new renders, just some dialogue and code changes.

I do think continuing to add variants might increase their workload for future scenes though.

 

[prpa]

Worth noting that the dev enjoys sharing/swinging content; there's quite a bit of optional content like that in their other game as well. So the inclusion of that here isn't likely because of player influence but because the dev wants it.

In this particular case, retroactively adding an option for Lucian to be her first for this scene probably isn't hard because there's already a version of the MMF scene where Lucian does the penetrating. So likely it won't need new renders, just some dialogue and code changes.

I do think continuing to add variants might increase their workload for future scenes though.

Yeah, I know, I played Casual Desires too. I was mainly referring to the demand for additional options regarding who takes her virginity, not to sharing in general, and I agree about the added workload.

 

[Kagarus]

While I generally agree that people pushing their kinks, and who're disregarding the preferences of the creators, should be ignored...
Art doesn't actually just spawn in a vacuum from some auteur's mind. Feedback, dialing in how the specifics land, ensuring that the received vibe is the intended one, is large part of honing ones artistry.
Which is why overstating the "just ignore these people", without specific limits on what we're actually talking about, is... problematic.
Stay true to your vision, yes! But also, take note when what you get across isn't what you want. And do so gracefully, because we wouldn't want a mess (I'm cynical about audiences, especially here, if you hadn't noticed)