A childe would still be a childe, if we're talking disciplines, a 5 dot 13th gen would win against a low gen childe. Only advantage he has here is blood points he could spend per turn, to heal and empower his physique. But as a rule no vamp can heal aggravated wounds as easily as fatal and blunt damage. Most dangerous thing about older vampires is not raw power per se, It's connections and how they play the influence and politics game.
Granted that can be the case- However:
Elysium supplement allowed for the creation of Elder and Elder level Childer (Pretenders) to play.
Elder Childer start with 10 discipline points
10/7/5 starting attributes
10th generation instead of 13th as a base
20/12/8 abilities
15 background
20 freebies
7 virtues
Plus merits and flaws.
Cap for Disciplines, Abilities, and Attributes is 8 for a 5th generation
This can result in a much more powerful character. The blood pool of a 5th generation vampire is 40, they can spend 8 per turn to up attributes and power disciplines or heal non aggravated wounds. (Lethal and Bashing)
A 13th generation "Methuselah"
3 Disciplines
7/5/3 attributes
starts at 13th generation
13/9/5 abilities
5 backgrounds
15 freebies * (1000 years age will add 100 freebie points per Elysium) Assuming Age Background of 5
7 virtues
Plus Merits and Flaws.
115 Freebie points spends awfully fast. It will take 35 points per discipline you take to 5 dots not counting your original 3 which are most likely clan disciplines. 13th gen is capped at attributes, abilities and disciplines of 5
Spend 1 per round blood and only a 10 blood pool.
You will be hard pressed to build a fake Methuselah 13th gen vampire that can reliably beat a similarly structured Pretender.
So yes, Generation, Blood, Spend Rate, Disciplines and just more skills and attributes will matter a great deal, especially if higher level disciplines are taken by said Pretender.
Peace
we dont need to mention v5
