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This thread is the best on this forum, i enjoy reading the theories (especially Arigon) almost as much as playing the game.
If i remember we saw Fabian visiting Mc and he was up VERY early, at a time where Mc and Sharon where "sleeping".
I had to laugh at this post..a lot. Thanks for the compliment.... Bottles! What are these prisons known as bottles????????
Fabian uses blood magic similar to what the Tzimisce, Assamite Viziers, Giovanni, Cappadocians, and Tremere use in VtM. There might be some bloodlines neglected in that list, but those are the big hitters of blood magic in the game which is a large influence for the authors. The ability to control the amount of sleep you need is not limited to Fabian. Calisto and Cindy both were awake at reasonable times, and Calisto has demonstrated proficiency in ritual magic. By rights, within the context of how the authors are presenting the correlation of age and sleep *and lack of humanity, Calisto wouldn't actually wake up except to suck down some blood and crash again lol!
How the guys package the media and file size is not really my department, but I will ask the question.
The War started 13k years ago. It has been on slow cook ever since, with occasional flare ups. The need of having Temples is partly due to the war going on, so as to defend the great ones.
However, to take your meaning more practically, chapter 3 had it's climax and then it had it's transition to chapter 4. Climaxes for a chapter are not always at the end.
What will be going on for the next couple of updates?
Next update-combat. Almost every bit of it is consumed by the combat, which will have some different results based on earlier choices as I already have discussed earlier.
Following update will be one in which the aftermath of the combat is addressed. Then there will be some preparations for the next round of combat in the updates following that. Rebirth is going to be having some fairly epic violence, epic violence, and over the top violence. Such is the nature of vampire lords.
So Liam making the offer to the MC and Laurie did have to do with the entertainment needed for some tense negotiations by some vampires in the neutral ground offered by Calisto at the Temple. However, there is a fairly reasonable and plausible theory that the selection of the MC for this job was set up by Malia, who had been observing the MC for some time, for Inanna. Further support for this can be found in dozens of posts in the thread. The selection was to place the MC adjacent to the great vampire Calisto, who, for reasons that literalists and theoreticians have debated.
Literalists think that she bred because she was bored. I have never subscribed to this view, and you can find my various arguments against this in literally dozens of posts.
Theoreticians think that it was deeper than ennui that drove Calisto to embrace the MC. Namely that she was acting on the subtle and subconscious commands from Inanna. My support and proposal of this theory are detailed in dozens of posts in this thread.
Fabian does not indicate that Calisto had bred again after having sired many childer and then stopped. The theory is that she bred once before, had a traumatic experience, and then refused to sire more vampires after that, until the MC. Now it could turn out to be false, and that she has sired more vampires than that, but I find it very unlikely. Every childe represents both power and risk. Power in that she would have an additional asset to potentially further her aims, and a threat as they would want her blood. Calisto is cagey and smart, though not infallible. She insists that her childer are bold, fearless, and willing to do what is necessary to increase their power. Arcas is such a case, and it was her first, and last before the MC. Arcas, *Virgil if I am correct, turned on his sire and she was nearly ended. She showed him too much too soon, and he was nearly a force potent enough to take her down. She is not making that same mistake with the MC, though frankly she probably should risk it as she does not realize the danger that she personally could be in if I am correct.
Zephir.... ah my beloved Zephir.
She didn't assault Sharon in the woods.
Calisto or one of her people did, to force Sharon to take the first drink towards thralldom to her childe. The wounds are extremely superficial and yet caused tremendous damage. The lackey of Marcius took just a scratch and was crying to his momma. Calisto most likely did the deed herself.
Various dozens of posts revolve around this. At one point, I strongly advocated that Astrid was male and flesh sculpted to look female and was Tzimisce like in her clan. I have since amended that part of my theory!
Regarding vampire elders sucking down the MC if they knew Calisto was his sire.
Virgil knows. He gains nothing by destroying the childe too soon as it might reveal his hand.
Fabian would gain a lot by doing so, but is ostensibly loyal to Calisto so he won't.
When first created, the other elders might have been able to pull it off.
Now? No, there are no "elders" in the city that could take the MC solo, and they would not want to share and thus would not gang up. Look up VtM Elysium on the creation of Elder vampires, and then the section on creating Elder powered childer vampires. The MC is as powerful or more powerful than any vampire in the city excepting Virgil, Calisto, and possibly Fabian and Cindy (Cindy is a stretch, but there is a reason she is the sole servant that attends the lady) **Note also that Cindy taught Frank, a powerful Nos, a lesson for snooping around the Temple. Cindy is one of Calisto's hands, the other being Fabian.
Fabian showed up immediately after sundown when there was possibly some waning light but not really. The remarkable part was how soon after sundown he showed up. As I mention further up in this post, blood magic is involved which allows both Fabian and Calisto, probably Cindy also, to rise early.
The blood Sharon drank at her investiture was Either Roland's blood, or Virgil's blood. If she allows herself to be thralled by either of them, it will be bad. Her best protection is the MC's blood, and the MC himself destroying the offender.
See just above regarding why the MC is so powerful.
We have actually had one more sex scene than has been guaranteed in the entire Novel so far.
The next update is the combat in the cave, round 1.
Sharon hate is predicated on her stupidity. She is not just self assured but allows herself to be blinded by her own lack of knowledge, and worse, pushes it, or tries to, on the MC.
The fact is that Sharon is second in loyalty only to Laurie. She is gorgeous. She wants to have old fashioned love, well old fashioned vampire love lol, for the MC. She is not a bad girl. She doesn't really deserve hate, but she certainly is no longer doing him any favors. She needs to wise up and realize she is in love with a quasi elder vampire, the likes of which she has only recently met with her huge failure with Calisto.
Probably more than enough for a Saturday morning here in the ol' USA!
Peace gang
