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Mortarion

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She needs to wise up and realize she is in love with a quasi elder vampire, the likes of which she has only recently met with her huge failure with Calisto.
Sorry this stupid question, but, is it so clear for all participants of the gang that MC is such a powerhouse?
Or are only we as players are aware of this? I mean, she was always off screen when MC decides to pull an Popeye and open his can of spinach to beat up Bluto with the contained claws etc in the can.
How should she be able to know this, only because of the short intermezzo when Sharon thinks she has a word in this game and Calisto puts her in place?
 

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Sorry this stupid question, but, is it so clear for all participants of the gang that MC is such a powerhouse?
Or are only we as players are aware of this? I mean, she was always off screen when MC decides to pull an Popeye and open his can of spinach to beat up Bluto with the contained claws etc in the can.
How should she be able to know this, only because of the short intermezzo when Sharon thinks she has a word in this game and Calisto puts her in place?
Welcome to the fun. :D
I'm sure Arigon will write about 6 pages of explanations for you and bet one or two of his organs for the theories in it.:p

Yet, short summarisation from my eyes:
It is half, half. Some times, and enough times, he use some of his power that are over your usuall childe born a few days ago. Some times she isn't there, when he used his powers. But all in all he used it enough for her to know that he isn't like any other vampire baby.
So, for me, Sharon cling to the things she know and an overpowered elder vampire childe isn't what she knows. She clings to much to her knowledge and what she knows and ignore the telephone pole big signs around him, Fabian, Cindy, Calisto and the others. That is also an issue some of us have with Sharon, we know she a goody-two-shoes persona, but in some regards she is very not the sharpest tool in the box.
 
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Welcome to the fun. :D
I'm sure Arigon will write about 6 pages of explanations for you and bet one or two of his organs for the theories in it.:p

Yet, short summarisation from my eyes:
It is half, half. Some times, and enough times, he use some of his power that are over your usuall childe born a few days ago. Some times she isn't there, when he used his powers. But all in all he used it enough for her to know that he isn't like any other vampire baby.
So, for me, Sharon cling to the things she know and an overpowered elder vampire childe isn't what she knows. She clings to much to her knowledge and what she knows and ignore the telephone pole big signs around him, Fabian, Cindy, Calisto and the others. That is also an issue some of us have with Sharon, we know she a goody-two-shoes persona, but in some regards she is very not the sharpest tool in the box.
i do not think Arigon has any more organs to bet i heard from the betting bank that he already as 5 mortgages on his balls and at least 2 loans on the heart!

after doing a credit analyses this is what he as left!
2 ear +
  • Hammer (malleus) — attached to the eardrum.
  • Anvil (incus) — in the middle of the chain of bones.
  • Stirrup (stapes) — attached to the membrane-covered opening that connects the middle ear with the inner ear (oval window)
so basically if the credits are called up or he looses one bet he just literally skin and bone... and not even a full skin and skeleton but just the 2 ears some cartilage and those ear bones! as an example he bet Malia was x generation for the nose... i think he has a betting problem!

Also Sharon... if she did not had doubts she would not pay for the skalds or honor Malia´s deal for Laurie!
At the same time the story told us her goody two shoes is just a facade! all her humanity blaber and her waking time clearly shows that she did plenty of shit and she is just trying to hold on whatever mauled scarred shred of humanity she as left... if she looses it i suspect she might turn into a Nos so she might have made an approach to the Nos in hopes of having an heaven when she inevitably slips!

which adds to Arigon theory that crazy blond bitch was flesh carved if she is still that hot!
 

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is it so clear for all participants of the gang that MC is such a powerhouse?
Or are only we as players are aware of this?
Claws - Sharon has seen them used, and Markus told her they're something weird. Says they need to find your sire, but doesn't follow through.
Invisibility - Sharon's seen it, recognized it's different from the Nos power. Says she's never heard of anyone with claws & invisibility.
Secret Whispers - MC told Sharon about it, but she's skeptical, never heard of that. Says it's impossible for anyone to have all those powers so fast, thinks you're imagining it.
Vicious Power - Only Merrick's seen it & doesn't remember. MC told Andrew about it, but probably doesn't believe him.
Visions - MC has told Sharon about them, but she doesn't really believe him. Like the secret whisper, thinks MC is imagining it.

Sharon had concluded that the MCs powers are odd & emerging unusually quickly, but only knew of/accepted a third of them. I'd cut her some slack on not buying into the secret whisper & visions, she has nothing other than his ramblings for those. Who'd believe a newbie vamp had powers like that she's never even heard of?
So, for me, Sharon cling to the things she know and an overpowered elder vampire childe isn't what she knows. She clings to much to her knowledge and what she knows and ignore the telephone pole big signs around him, Fabian, Cindy, Calisto and the others. That is also an issue some of us have with Sharon, we know she a goody-two-shoes persona, but in some regards she is very not the sharpest tool in the box.
I think this is a pretty accurate take. Sharon isn't exactly willfully ignorant, she was low tier. For her Marcius & Markus are a big deal. She dismisses anything outside her immediate experience, and didn't know of or believe elders more powerful than the Princeps still exist.
Also Sharon... if she did not had doubts she would not pay for the skalds or honor Malia´s deal for Laurie!
Yes, the skald thing was Sharon recognizing there were pieces of the puzzle missing & she needed more info. Sharon accepting Malia's deal didn't have anything to do with MCs powers or the bigger goings on though. That was because MC had already agreed to it & she doesn't want to get Malia off side. Standard newbie Archon wheeling & dealing?
 
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Ok so far
The MC got Claws, Invisibility, Secret Whispers, vicious power, and vision, so I wonder will he get more powers as the game progresses and I wonder if at this rate he’s going, will he be stronger than a Archon
 

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Ok so far
The MC got Claws, Invisibility, Secret Whispers, vicious power, and vision, so I wonder will he get more powers as the game progresses and I wonder if at this rate he’s going, will he be stronger than a Archon
Powers/abilities alone isn't going to make MC stronger than a Archon or any other elder. He lacks the years and years of experience with those abilities as well as the combat experience.
 
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Powers/abilities alone isn't going to make MC stronger than a Archon or any other elder. He lacks the years and years of experience with those abilities as well as the combat experience.
The MC is already above Marcius and most Archons and probably close to the Princepts in power at this time. Our Bear claw lothario is at 5th level whereas the Princepts is at a 6-7. Archons are on average on a level of 8-10, and the average Vamp is between 11-15. Virgil on the other hand is dangerous. Fabian as well could be problematic.
 

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The MC is already above Marcius and most Archons and probably close to the Princepts in power at this time. Our Bear claw lothario is at 5th level whereas the Princepts is at a 6-7. Archons are on average on a level of 8-10, and the average Vamp is between 11-15. Virgil on the other hand is dangerous. Fabian as well could be problematic.
How does the MC's ability to plot and scheme fit into these power levels? Because he's kind of a dumbass with goldfish brain.
 

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How does the MC's ability to plot and scheme fit into these power levels? Because he's kind of a dumbass with goldfish brain.
The MC has been growing and becoming more bold in his actions especially from mid chapter 3 on. To prove my point He is questioning things and going out on his own leaving Shannon behind, not asking permission but doing what is necessary. Schooling Shannon in various things that she is clueless and ill equipped in judgement to handle. In fact He has become the De-facto Archon. Even Shannon realizes She is being relegated to his shadow.

After meeting Mommy he is becoming more shrewd and not taking things for granted, taking stock of the bigger picture. Case in point the turning of Astrid over to Callisto for deposal without Shannon's approval. our MC is no longer a Goldfish but is grown into full blown Shark.
 

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The MC is already above Marcius and most Archons and probably close to the Princepts in power at this time. Our Bear claw lothario is at 5th level whereas the Princepts is at a 6-7. Archons are on average on a level of 8-10, and the average Vamp is between 11-15. Virgil on the other hand is dangerous. Fabian as well could be problematic.
Literally everything you stated is pure speculation.
 
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Literally everything you stated is pure speculation.
While that is true
With all of us speculating in episode 2 what generation MC was.
We all basically came to the conclusion that MC is a 5th generation. Like with 99% certainty.
While Sharon and Astrid were 13th generation The only thing we thought was that Markus was definitely the biggest threat to us
Since Virgil or the other chars were not introduced yet
 
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yltohawk

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Literally everything you stated is pure speculation.
So true and yet people have been put to death on less circumstantial Evidence. We theory Craft here, many of us and if you were so inclined to go back through the threads we have more circumstantial evidence based upon real research. Our hunches are more credible than Global Warming. Thank you for attempting to ground us with a sense of reality but at the end of the day We shall see who is right and who is wrong.
 

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Which is fine and all don't get me wrong but not when you're trying to pass it off as a matter of fact.
here is some background info that basically confirms that MC is a 5th gen vamp by our resident Vamp expert

A frightening post from the author, and it makes it mandatory to rethink genealogy:


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Vision girl? lol Good name for her I suppose. Vision girl is MUCH older than Calisto. As Calisto would be a myth to most vampires. Vision girl would be a myth to Calisto herself. Not her child.


This is definitely making me concerned for our well being, and the fact that Vision Girl was behind our embrace is almost guaranteed.
Calisto is definitely from about 2500 years ago. Definitely, no doubt based on what LB said to me in a series of 3 messages that I can not paste in here. Not that they give a LOT a way, but they give some stuff away, but I will let this out so there is no debating with anyone that Calisto is in fact Greek origin. Very likely the role we assumed she had.... Also very likely she is 4th generation, making us 5th generation. She is legend, and in a way, so are we.
 

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here is some background info that basically confirms that MC is a 5th gen vamp by our resident Vamp expert
Thank you for pulling archival info but.
[B]Tserriednich'sNen[/B] deals with the facts surrounding our MC not anecdotal mumbo jumbo. I didn't reference the source of my information therefore he is right in stating that I spoke with authority and absolutes without standing so let's drop this convo. before it gets heated as It has done in the past. Just this in passing though I have done my due diligence so we shall soon see who is right. It may come as soon as the next update.

Peace.
 
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