D3xzalias

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so he was injured and that bloodbag is his reserve? perhaps he needs to get back to save someone from the cave and needs to up his power?
Probably i don't even know when the last time he even fed. Would be pretty stupid to go into a fight on a empty stomach.
And it's alway's good to bring a snack for on the road
 

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Sex scene this coming update?
No
Romance
Already answered, yes vampire romance
Harem
Possible depending on choices
Scene with Ivy and Andrew-
That is the Nos hideout. I am not sure if she is going to be the snack of the moment or not, but she is a love interest, so I am thinking she shouldn't be everyone's snack before or after a battle.
Only one love interest could die this update/next update and that is Laurie, who technically will die, but could live if SharonsavesLaurie is high enough, then she lives on as a vampire.

I am thinking along with D3xzalias that we might see a more bestial aspect to the MC, since we don't get my bears........ I am pretty convinced we are going to see some blood though for sure........perhaps even savage diablerie. Just an opinion, but boy oh boy I want that to go down....
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Sex scene this coming update?
No
Romance
Already answered, yes vampire romance
Harem
Possible depending on choices
Scene with Ivy and Andrew-
That is the Nos hideout. I am not sure if she is going to be the snack of the moment or not, but she is a love interest, so I am thinking she shouldn't be everyone's snack before or after a battle.
Only one love interest could die this update/next update and that is Laurie, who technically will die, but could live if SharonsavesLaurie is high enough, then she lives on as a vampire.

I am thinking along with D3xzalias that we might see a more bestial aspect to the MC, since we don't get my bears........ I am pretty convinced we are going to see some blood though for sure........perhaps even savage diablerie. Just an opinion, but boy oh boy I want that to go down....
Peace
I honestly wanna see MC cannibalize another vamp. If not to obtain their abilites/life or whatever but to see how LB will portray that in game.
 

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Having a soft spot for Sharon I cannot shake the feeling that the relationship between Astrid and her is more than concerning. I mean, Astrid clearly has some pull there and it's a bit like watching your girlfriend interacting with her ex, isn't it. Obviously relationships have a different meaning when you are eternal, nonetheless, Sharon really struggled with her inner beast even after a short interaction with Astrid. Considering that Sharon might have to sacrifice some of her humanity soon enough, that could really fuck things up as the story goes on. Probably not in the NTR-sense, because it's such a charged tag for many people, but surely on the emotional level.
 

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Probably i don't even know when the last time he even fed. Would be pretty stupid to go into a fight on a empty stomach.
And it's alway's good to bring a snack for on the road
prolly when he went to fuck that cop and that was LONG ago.
 

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Only one love interest could die this update/next update and that is Laurie, who technically will die, but could live if SharonsavesLaurie is high enough, then she lives on as a vampire.
But that would mean, that Laurie is a pathetic weakling - like her creator Sharnon- after the kiss , even weaker ... It would be much cooler if the MC would change her, but i have doubt that the mc has the time during the fight to kiss laurie. Onthe other side, that would absolutly be bonkers and not fit into the story. Otherwise, dreaming about a powerhouse Laurie has something :D
 

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But that would mean, that Laurie is a pathetic weakling - like her creator Sharnon- after the kiss , even weaker ... It would be much cooler if the MC would change her, but i have doubt that the mc has the time during the fight to kiss laurie. Onthe other side, that would absolutly be bonkers and not fit into the story. Otherwise, dreaming about a powerhouse Laurie has something :D
I don't think anyone has time to for that during the combat, MC and Markus are likely the only ones which aren't one hit kills. But it's not like they can hold on for long either and there need to be some sacrifice so the MC and his group can escape.

But yeah, if Sharon turns Laurie she would be weak...although the Sharon/Laurie dynamic could be fun afterwards.
I think if the MC feeds Laurie more often, she would be way stronger as his ghoul than as Sharon's child.
Ghouls should be able to use some of the powers of their creators, even learn some new ones and are also more powerful depending on their creators generation...which would make Laurie pretty bad ass, if they don't follow Sharon/Andrew example, which is just enough blood to keep Andrew alive.

Which makes me curious, are their any effects if u feed Laurie more often ? I think there are one or two of these choices.
 
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We are venturing into old canon digression of ghouls vs. blood dolls.
Our ghouls are not particularly strong, not mentally, not phisically.
We are not doing a good symbiosis and our ghouls are not providing for us.
Sharon gives so little actual tasks to hers while we basically just keep ours locked up.
That is no way to either cement their infatuation with us, precisely as they keep rejecting us,
nor is it giving them agency to grow and come into their own strengths.

Will be fun to see how our familiars grow, because so far,
anyone of them from this game, seras victoria would just tear to pieces.
 

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We are venturing into old canon digression of ghouls vs. blood dolls.
Our ghouls are not particularly strong, not mentally, not phisically.
We are not doing a good symbiosis and our ghouls are not providing for us.
Sharon gives so little actual tasks to hers while we basically just keep ours locked up.
That is no way to either cement their infatuation with us, precisely as they keep rejecting us,
nor is it giving them agency to grow and come into their own strengths.

Will be fun to see how our familiars grow, because so far,
anyone of them from this game, seras victoria would just tear to pieces.
Well yeah Laurie is 'new', time was mostly used for adapting and learning how to deal with her addiction and Sharon keeps Andrew on a minimal diet...well and Sharon is weak, such is Andrew even if she would feed him more.
Yeah they aren't utilize or train them well, although they kind of funktion as guardians at daytime, well Andrew at least.
Laurie should be trained more in combat and the use of the powers, would be a better use of the time than her playing dj again.
 

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how comes people are talking about laurie dying and sharon saving her? is it because of the vision things?

being honest im not really invested in laurie at all, sharon gets a lot of hate but idk why.. she helps him a lot at the start and fuck knows where he would be without her, she cares about him a lot. sure she dismisses the visions and doesnt realise the power of calisto or whatever her name is but i think its just more from her not being educated more on it all. i think it will come to the point and she did already start to where she is seeing it for herself.

i feel like some people just want complete domination over women, if the guy ever acts any other way they just abuse him lol i seen it on a few games already.
 

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how comes people are talking about laurie dying and sharon saving her? is it because of the vision things?
People are talking about a variable in the game Called "SharonSavesLaurie" And since we are in episode 4 now We never seen Laurie in danger.(except the feral nos scene) Soon we have to fight a very old Vamp that is buried in a cave. All of us are speculating if Laurie gets turned in to a Vamp, But for that she Has to die and that is were the variable comes in to play
 
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People are talking about a variable in the game Called "SharonSavesLaurie" And since we are in episode 4 now We never seen Laurie in danger.(except the feral nos scene) Soon we have to fight a very old Vamp that is buried in a cave. All of us are speculating if Laurie gets turned in to a Vamp, But for that she Has to die and that is were the variable comes in to play

ohhhh, i get you. I always thought that was for the moment when you chose to tell laurie you're a vamp. that if it was high enough she would help with it.. idk why i thought that but it makes more sense now
 

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Several good comments in this latest batch.
c3p0 I don't think this is 6 pages :D
The fight....

It will be a big bad assed fur ball in my opinion. Ereskigal will not directly be involved, she will invoke her bloodline powers and force the Nos to turn on the Scottstown crew. There might be some extras in that battle, as Virgil could be in town. Eloise is in town. Malia and Glitter could well be in town, Glitter is for sure...I think it is safe to assume Fabian is gone, and Cindy, Astrid (if you gave her up) and Calisto of course. So it could quite literally be the Nos against all others, or the Nos and add ons against all the Scottstown crew. I think there is a small chance that Frank and Merrick might fight for the Scottstown crew, but I would not want to bet on it.

I am leaning against a direct intervention by Virgil unless he sees a value in saving the MC's life, which I do not think he really does except for the possibility of exposing Calisto again. He could have other agents in town though, we shall see I guess.

Scottstown crew is going to get it's ass kicked. That means deaths.- Laurie is definitely going to die in this. Will she be brought back by Sharon? That goes back to the variable we keep discussing. I think that Laurie going down is going to shred the MC mentally and emotionally, and he is definitely going to get more soul stain if you have developed his powers properly. Truthfully I think it will be a pretty powerful moment that is going to reveal to any survivors just how big a deal Calisto and her childer are. Think is in the middle of this fight, if he opens the power of speed/celerity up. Add that to Claws, Invisibility, Vicious Strength, Whispers, his obvious psychic visions, his heightened senses.... he is going to be a nightmare.

I could be completely wrong.... The MC might not do any of the above. If he has not gotten the powers, then he will use the dagger. A smarter move for him is to give the dagger to Sharon, and use his powers.

Sharon will be taken out of the fight if she has a high SharonSavesLaurie score. She will be saving Laurie.
Andrew is going to kill shit until he goes down... that could happen. Think of the cost to Sharon if she has to choose to save Laurie due to her love of the MC, or Andrew her friend and faithful servant.

Ivy is not going to be much help I am thinking... probably in shock at seeing all the crazy shit.

If Frank and Merrick switch sides then it would still be poor odds. If they don't then it is going to basically be Andrew and the MC breaking bad. That is my bet.

Outline of fights in Rebirth-

1- The woods. Something brushed past Sharon and nearly killed her, forcing her to feed on the MC's blood. This was planned and the thing was most likely Calisto herself as she has the most skill and control over her powers and could scrape Sharon and put her down. Now Sharon is probably unnaturally tough, like a Fortitude power, which would fit what I believe her VtM clan equivalent is, which is Ventrue. She has Presence, some increased senses, and her Domination (eyes) thing.

2- Feral Nos. I believe the Feral Nos was the last survivor from the bunker, and served as a blood slave for Ereshkigal until she was driven insane, which cost her a lot of her powers, and drove her to that feral state. I think she was Markus' sire.

3- Hunters vs MC. Hunters lost either due to you developing your powers and beating their asses, or Andrew rescuing you.

4- Merrick's ill fated attempt to attack the MC. Vicious Strength is a bitch.

5- This update. I "Think" this will be all the Nos vs basically Andrew, Laurie, Sharon and the MC. Ivy probably not a combat monster in the least, though she was sensitive to the presence in the cave.... that does make her interesting.

6- Virgil vs Calisto round 2. Probably epic. Probably lots of fatalities. Not Calisto. Not the MC. Could have some initial smackdowns on Marcius by the MC, which would be satisfying.

7- Ereshkigal rising- blood bath

8- Inanna rising- blood bath

(7 and 8 ideally would occur roughly at the same time, or it will not be pretty... well fuck that, it is not going to be pretty regardless lol)

9- The sisters duke it out. All bets are off on survivors..... (Calisto, MC, Sharon, Carmen, Laurie, Ivy, and all the mortals, Fabian,Cindy, Roland, and all the Archons, are all on the block.... who knows who lives)

Change of topic.....

Sharon has the wrong view of ghouls/thralls. Yes Andrew is in fact stronger than a normal human and functions as the mule quite often. He is also a veteran of WW2 based on age calculations and his military knowledge and weapon skills.
He is not more powerful than Laurie.

Laurie already has heightened senses, several examples of that, and yes, Andrew wear sunglasses at night, but if he had Auspex like powers it would not impede him. Laurie is stronger than her build would otherwise indicate. She is also probably more durable.

She has high intuition which likely comes from the visionary gene if you want to call it that. She also has been fed more frequently than Andrew during the course of the story. Sharon starves him to try and keep him as human and independent as possible, but he is lacking in many powers he could have picked up in 70 years of service.


Some morons have tried to attribute various kinks to the story, because they refuse to understand the explanations or just are not getting it. This is a story about vampires and a war between two big bloodlines, with some extras thrown in. It is not written as a sex novel. Never has been the intent.

Misogyny is not present except in certain characters. They two most powerful vampires in the game (and contenders for the world) are females. Carmen, who would have been useful to bring, is a strong female, and I am betting, she becomes the MC's childe. Sharon is nominally in charge of Scottstown, even though we know that the MC really is. There are several powerful women in this novel, and it bears repeating Calisto, Inanna, Ereshkigal, are women, and are the top 3 powers in this game.

To address the wouldn't it be great if Laurie was XYZ, well, yeah it would be better for her in all likelihood to remain the ghoul/thrall of the MC for a long time instead of being a relatively weaker bloodline's vampire...... It would be cool if I could find the USB key I have 1000 bitcoins on too.... but too many moves and that fucker was lost. Laurie will either die, or she will be Sharon's childe. I am betting all my gonads on that.

I predict that no matter how this fight plays out, there will be people who want to argue about it.

I am good with that, as long as it stays civil. Through civil disagreement we might refine the theories about where we are going.

Just do this please, REALLY, please at least read the story, go to the VtM wiki and read the synopsis, look up ancient Greek and Sumerian mythology, if you really want to try and tear down the plot lines we are all working on trying to figure out. Those sources will at least let you make intelligent additions to the conversation.

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