Arigon

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Multiposting time look inside the quote for my responses in large white bold.

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Ep4 up3 won't play saves from previous chapter for me. Anyone else with that problem? It forces me to start Ep4 all over again. This is getting tiresome. I keep running into this same problem with various games.
 

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Ep4 up3 won't play saves from previous chapter for me. Anyone else with that problem? It forces me to start Ep4 all over again. This is getting tiresome. I keep running into this same problem with various games.

I had the same issue.
There is a patch listed in an earlier posting.


If that doesn't work for you.
You may just have to fast forward through it.
 

J.R.

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Ep4 up3 won't play saves from previous chapter for me. Anyone else with that problem? It forces me to start Ep4 all over again. This is getting tiresome. I keep running into this same problem with various games.
This was already mentioned several times. Saves from the end of the last update are mostly not compatible. Try to use older ones a bit before the end of Episode 4 / update 2 or Autosaves.
 

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This is not a spoiler as LB stated it on Patreon, but those of you who can not advance, are trying to play when you did not have the conditions satisfied to save Laurie. That path is not available yet, and will be done next month. If you wish to play this update, you need to go back and be nicer to Sharon.
Hold up, you're telling me I won't be able to have Laurie route because I wasn't nice to Sharon?
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Tserriednich'sNen

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Hold up, you're telling me I won't be able to have Laurie route because I wasn't nice to Sharon?
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Nope, if you lack enough Sharonsavelaurie points, Laurie ends up dead. The Laurie dead route will be next months update. This new update was the Laurie alive route only.
 
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Arigon

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If you go straight to Vamp Mommy you tell her you went with a bunch of other vamps and the nos and still got your asses kicked, she just gets annoyed. I would think something that can kill a group of vamps would make her think a bit rather then just get annoyed.
Calisto is detached, arrogant, and totally fallible. She comes from legend. She IS a legend. She has a single childe, which is the MC. In her mind, if he is not Achilles, she does not need or want him as her lover and childe. So, yeah, you and I would think... She... Not so much. As much as I love her character, she Is an arrogant asshole at times.

Ep4 up3 won't play saves from previous chapter for me. Anyone else with that problem? It forces me to start Ep4 all over again. This is getting tiresome. I keep running into this same problem with various games.
Due to the way the guys are running this, you load the update on top of the older parts of the chapter. It gives you a review of the current content as you move to the update. That was their choice on how to implement it. They are not going to change it.

Hold up, you're telling me I won't be able to have Laurie route because I wasn't nice to Sharon?
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FunFuntomes I LOVE your facepalms on this :D
because you keep insisting on something unfounded. And this update seems to imply that Astrid's spot on the list of love interests would belong to either Innana or Calisto IF your rambling were to be true. and it seems that Calisto might not make it through the story as her hubris and arrogance will surrelly end her as a snack for one of the sisters. and what was with I hurting MC through the vision. and when she said about MC being so close to her makes me think of a Jaenette and Therese situation with I and E being the one and the same, but that would be a bloodlines reference too on the nose.

but instead of talking sillines about Astrid, you could ponder of Laurie's skin itching and the crimson path mentioned a second time in the last 3 updates... those are more relevant issues.
 

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So, my bit of Theorycrafting (more just musings). I don't know much about the Inanna/Ereshkigal aspect. From my VtM experience, tho', and it's connection/inspiration/etc. to the game, I DO make some assumptions, although I fully expect there's not a 1-to-1 connection. I don't think any of this really qualifies as spoiler, so....

1. There's a connection between Sire and Childe (pretty obvious), and Sharon's particular history does easily explain her behavior to Laurie now.

2. In VtM, old, early generation vamps have a LOT of power. In VtM terms, PC could quite readily be, say, 5th generation and Sharon's a good ol' 12-13th. I suspect this has slowly been dawning on her (and rapidly of late). This is the easy stuff. One could start going down the rabbit hole and muse that Sharon turned Laurie before the PC inevitably would to have another hook on him. That'd be quite consistent with VtM, but I don't think so much in this story. A cynic might suggest that she already viewed Laurie as something of a rival, and if/when PC inevitably turned her himself, she'd be a rival with a much stronger generation.

3. Calisto. Ahhhh, Calisto. My prevailing assumption is that she is quite aware of what's down in the cave and has been for awhile, and that's pretty much why she sired a childe - a fire-and-forget missile at dealing with a sticky problem. Hook him up with a damaged vamp (damaged in that Sharon seems to actually care) asw nursemaid, surround him with those who can teach him/unlock some of his power, hook him up with the Nos, who, if you're about to get in a scrum belowground, are the No. 1 clan to have at your side.

There's almost zero risk on her part. If he succeeds, it will be because he's become quite formidable, which makes for a terrific ally (and one that is bound to her). She gets rid of a problem, she (importantly) doesn't let anyone else get rid of it, which could have meant the elevation of a potential rival, and she risks pretty much nothing. If he fails, well, she's better informed about what is evidently a more serious problem than she wished. Plus, in whatever level of vamp society in which she has peers, she gains a big Smiley sticker (with gold star!) for cleaning up that serious problem.

4. Last little bit related to Callisto securing a formidable ally in her Childe PC...he'll inevitably sire vampires in turn - whom also will be of quite elevated generation. Carmen, Ivy come to mind. Carmen, in particular, would (will!) make for a fantastic vamp. That's a nifty little power base being built up. She doesn't seem like she needs it, but...if this Inanna/Ereshkigal thing goes on, she very well might.


The one rule above all I remember about VtM, was when someone asked a very well informed source what the most common mistake players make was, "They think they can win."

(sorry if this is trodding over well-covered ground)
 

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I still don't understand why MC didn't just ask Calisto about "the crimson path". Or at least 'hint' her about it, just to get some info. I think MC was DUMB for that.

There is a possibility that Calisto knows perfectly what lies underneath... and just want this situation to blow up, just because she is bored. Calisto is the definition of being jaded. So she might want to unleash chaos, just to see what happens... while eating popcorn, and/or die. She might not care anymore.
 

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1. There's a connection between Sire and Childe (pretty obvious), and Sharon's particular history does easily explain her behavior to Laurie now.
but Laurie refuses to listen to Sharon....Oh boy ! I can't wait for Laurie to use claws..
One could start going down the rabbit hole and muse that Sharon turned Laurie before the PC inevitably would to have another hook on him. That'd be quite consistent with VtM, but I don't think so much in this story. A cynic might suggest that she already viewed Laurie as something of a rival, and if/when PC inevitably turned her himself, she'd be a rival with a much stronger generation.
you don't have to be a cynic to think that, we know Sharon is not the "humane vampire" she likes to pretend she is. Both Astrid and Merrick called her ugly on the inside, so maybe Sharon turned Laurie for the sake of the MC, knowing how much losing his childhood friend would hurt him, but on a subconsious level Sharon harbored those thoughts.
 

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I still don't understand why MC didn't just ask Calisto about "the crimson path". Or at least 'hint' her about it, just to get some info. I think MC was DUMB for that.

There is a possibility that Calisto knows perfectly what lies underneath... and just want this situation to blow up, just because she is bored. Calisto is the definition of being jaded. So she might want to unleash chaos, just to see what happens... while eating popcorn, and/or die. She might not care anymore.
He simply didn't have the opportunity, depending on your itinerary Calisto was either enraged at your failure or irritatd by how "timid" the MC was.
Arigon can you pass a complain to Likesblondes? the new blooddoll at fabian's, is another good looking girl that next to Malia, Zephyr and Feral nos should've been used to make a proper love interest instead of some background decoration
 
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