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But since she was a partner of Astrid's she obviously wasn't the goodie goodie she seems to be now.
Lets face it could you really see astrid partnering up with her if she was.
I disagree. IMHO Astrid seduced Sharon with the intent to groom her into becoming either a whore or a slave, but botched it and Sharon rebelled. Sharon had been under the impression they were in a loving relationship when Astrid's true plan was to be Sharon's pimp. Once Sharon realized what her lover intended to do to her she dumped Astrid and cut her out of her life.

Sharon isn't a paragon of humanity. If she were she'd wake up before the MC every night. Nevertheless she still wakes up before the majority of other vampires so she's better than most, and works hard to ensure she does not lose any more of her humanity than she already has.

Mind control shenanigans are part and parcel of the vampire life. The only reason vampires don't do it to each other is polite society.
The only real rule is don't get caught, or be so powerful that it doesn't matter if you are.
 
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my only real issue, why does MC hold really important info so close to the vest?
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Better yet, why didn't he tell Calisto that he stuck the elder through the head with her magic sword and it barely gave her a headache. I bet that would have gotten vamp mommy's attention.
 
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my only real issue, why does MC hold really important info so close to the vest?
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This has historically been my biggest pet peeve with this game. It's why I've given Sharon so much slack in the past. If I were in her shoes and a newb childe I'd just met started spouting all kinds of crazy sounding talk insisting I needed to trust them WITHOUT EXPLANATION I would have tended to dismiss their words too. Imagine if the MC had described to Sharon the vision he'd had from the past of Sharon and Astrid in bed together chatting about Archon Marcius. I bet that would have caused Sharon to take the MC's visions much more seriously far more quickly. So seeing the MC not bother to explain things yet again isn't surprising, although it is still both frustrating and disappointing.

Better yet, why didn't he tell Calisto that he stuck the elder through the head with her magic sword and it barely gave her a headache. I bet that would have gotten vamp mommy's attention.
Yeah, but due to Calisto's narcissism it's not clear to me that any admission of inadequacy would have gone over well. She does not wish to associate with anyone who is inadequate. IMHO Bringing up to Calisto "the Crimson Path", one of the names dropped by the Skalds like "Ereshkigal", and/or the elder vampire's ability to craft powerful illusions turning a cave complex into an ancient temple would have been a better bet.
 
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My compressed unofficial Android ports of:

Rebirth EP4 update 3 with Zoey Raven walkthrough.
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Usual gestures, save name/delete, seethru textbox, resizeable game and dialogue text.
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Inanna and Ereshkigal are two separate goddesses. Inanna is stuck like a trophy and needs to wake up, Ereshkigal does not want that to happen, and it happens. There will be an epic battle, and the MC will be fighting another battle more on his level.
Hi Arigon, yes, yes I know that I and E are two goddesses in mythology and that I was imprisoned by E; but also mythology tells us that she escaped from E after only 3 days of imprisonment - stuck on a hook on the wall as you say. As Innana escaped and there is no hint of her recapture in the future, but rather eternal replacements (the seasons as I recall), so why is Innana a prisoner now - the story does not broach that at all? I can see and understand where you are coming from, but I also understand artistic license. At this time, and without further facts from the story, it is quite reasonable to suppose that your hypothesis is appropriate, the Malkavian Janus hypothesis is far less likely but is possible and it is fun. For sure the MC will have further battles, and obviously more than one hypothesis can cover that. It may be that the the devs simply went with the Mythology flow as you allude to, but is it not reasonable to have debate about other possibilities? For one I am happy to just see how the story goes as I am enjoying the VN, and for me a good novel is one that is not completely predictable but has occasional twists and turns - take Tolkien's rendition of the Nordic sagas for example.
 

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Hi Arigon, yes, yes I know that I and E are two goddesses in mythology and that I was imprisoned by E; but also mythology tells us that she escaped from E after only 3 days of imprisonment - stuck on a hook on the wall as you say. As Innana escaped and there is no hint of her recapture in the future, but rather eternal replacements (the seasons as I recall), so why is Innana a prisoner now - the story does not broach that at all? I can see and understand where you are coming from, but I also understand artistic license. At this time, and without further facts from the story, it is quite reasonable to suppose that your hypothesis is appropriate, the Malkavian Janus hypothesis is far less likely but is possible and it is fun. For sure the MC will have further battles, and obviously more than one hypothesis can cover that. It may be that the the devs simply went with the Mythology flow as you allude to, but is it not reasonable to have debate about other possibilities? For one I am happy to just see how the story goes as I am enjoying the VN, and for me a good novel is one that is not completely predictable but has occasional twists and turns - take Tolkien's rendition of the Nordic sagas for example.
Absolutely Andrew!
I personally think that it would drag the AVN a tad too close to Bloodlines for that to be the case, so my copyright protection mode was engaged. However, for the sake of discussion and debate, it would be interesting and a tad fucked up if they were two in one.
One way to engage in that line of thinking which is not Malkavian, and would be far more safe to speculate on would be what if one sister had diablerized the other?? Certainly both would be powerful enough that there would be personality impact and implications.
I think that is my spice into that stew/line of thought.
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Yes Arigon I agree. The Janus Malkavian hypothesis is just for fun which fits in with the broader VtM model. I am not sure that character attributes transfer as a result of the diablerisation process - increased power and more powers maybe - but making them have multiple personalities ... not so sure. Did Malkavian's children also adsorb aspects of his personality when they diablerised him - I don't think so as Malkavian's tend to be similar but unique in my understanding. However, it seems to be a possibility as I was apparently stronger than E, and E would likely covert the extra power. Meh, lets enjoy the story and wait and see.
 

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Hello everyone sorry for not being so active the latest month. Started creating my own VN
have been super busy with that. You can guess the topic already, Started turning my old Vtm tabletop game in to a story.
We had a good 3 year run with that playtrough. So that should be enough content to make every VTM lover soak their panties

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Ok im going back to work on my VN.

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One way to engage in that line of thinking which is not Malkavian, and would be far more safe to speculate on would be what if one sister had diablerized the other?? Certainly both would be powerful enough that there would be personality impact and implications.
I think that is my spice into that stew/line of thought.
Peace!
Intriguing idea. This is a major potential downside of attempting to diablerize an incredibly powerful ancient vampire for their power. Their spirits are potent enough to resist digestion and can battle for control over their murderer's body. I can think of at least 2 occasions where this has occurred in the inspirational material. I can think of a 3rd occasion where it was an incredibly powerful evil spirit that the vampire imprisoned within themselves only to cause a similar millenia long battle for internal control, with the evil spirit often successfully possessing the vampire for periods of time and committing bloody atrocities.
 

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Hello everyone sorry for not being so active the latest month. Started creating my own VN
have been super busy with that. You can guess the topic already, Started turning my old Vtm tabletop game in to a story.
We had a good 3 year run with that playtrough. So that should be enough content to make every VTM lover soak their panties

obvious spoilers ahead
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Ok im going back to work on my VN.

Have good day everyone.
are you saying you'd be fine with undoing Astrid's machinations and anything she even did?
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can't wait to play that VN you hinted at.
 
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Here's my unofficial android port of Rebirth Ep4 Up3 with KoGa3 Walkthrough/cheat/game settings

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I completed episode 1 but the save doesn't show up in episode 2. Tried ro manually copy and past save file from episode 1 to 2 but shows errors.
 

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are you saying you'd be fine with undoing Astrid's machinations and anything she even did?
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can't wait to play that VN you hinted at.
You know what Calisto said early in the game. You want to kill Sharon later
Aslong as i keep Laurie im happy Sure Carmen is in my signature but if i had to choose between Laurie and Carmen
Carmen is gone And if push comes to shove i will kill Sharon also

Any further updates to my VN is going to be in the Vampire lore thread so check that
 
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weird, game threw errors when tried to load from save at end of previous update but works with save made on update before that.
 

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from a political sense, it doesn't make sense to kill Sharon; yes its doable strength wise, but she is your ally, and has been assisting you, albeit not very efficiently, still more-so than Calisto. what would you GAIN from draining her, right now nothing but enemies. later on, even less benefits, and the loss of an ally, and creating trust issues with all of your circle except MAYBE Laurie.
Draining Astrid will reap way more benefits than any negatives; Marcius will see you as having more stones and backing then he thought once he discovers that you did it. You free Sharon of some blood ties that don't benefit her at all. Revenge, while also freeing your landlady, and gaining Astrids powers even if only a small percentage strength-wise of them, Huge benefit.
the negatives - Sharon is mad at you about it [she already is]. So i hope Calisto wants/orders/encourages MC to do so.
would also be Cool if Cindy and MC stop antagonizing each other...No good is going to come of that.
 
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