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yltohawk

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hmm. Is Astrid going to try to steal the MC from Sharon, kind of corrupt him or steal his heart?. She really wanted to mentor him during the Trial despite it not going the way Astrid wanted. So it makes me wonder.
How far along in the game are you cuz your statement is puzzling.
 
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How far along in the game are you cuz your statement is puzzling.
It was Episode 1 After Astrid overheard the MC telling Laurie the truth. Astrid snitched and at the trial she kept whispering she wants the boy. Also said she should tutor the boy not Sharon. Astrid did not get the outcome she hoped for.
 

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Ah man I'm going by memory here and I would need to go back 2-300 pages. What I can say with conviction is the links about Callisto as well as Virgil are all part of the Sumerians Pantheon and Lore as related to Innana. I believe in Hachem's Razor and as such through the preponderance of the evidence I stand by what I stated. As Arigon would say I'd wager my left nut I am right.
Occam's razor ?
 
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It was Episode 1 After Astrid overheard the MC telling Laurie the truth. Astrid snitched and at the trial she kept whispering she wants the boy. Also said she should tutor the boy not Sharon. Astrid did not get the outcome she hoped for.
Oh you got a long way to go here . Enjoy the story and anytime you read where you feel something embrace it as that is how you stats build.
 
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Oh you got a long way to go here . Enjoy the story and anytime you read where you feel something embrace it as that is how you stats build.
Wonder how powerful the MC really is and if he gets a higher position other than co-archon. Regardless getting nostalgic for Vampire the Masquerade Redemption
 

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by the way who is that really hot Vamp the MC keeps dreaming of that keeps saying come walk the crimson path. Not the same Vampiress who turned the MC. The dream Vamp looks different. If it just his inner vampire why is it female. The other theory I had was once bitten by an ancient Vamp he dreams of his Sire's Sire or he is dreaming of the first Vampire Lilith. the other is Cain. At least in some folklore Lilith is considered the first Vampire.
that's that really ancient vampire i think.
 

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Ah man I'm going by memory here and I would need to go back 2-300 pages.
All that was spoken here is verified by the Dev's.
Memory is a great artist. For every man and for every woman it makes the recollection of his or her life a work of art and an unfaithful record.
According to legend Callisto was in service to Innana as the High priestess in her Temple.
Which legend? Arigon claimed Calisto = . The devs never confirmed this afaik, it's a Arigon hypotheses.

I believe the devs have confirmed Calisto's the most powerful vampire in game after the two myths. Based on this & her Hiereia title it's not unreasonable to assume she hails from Ancient Greece (up to 3000 years old).
Virgil was Callisto's son who is a shapeshifter (the reason for no skin) and attempted to kill Callisto in his Youth to assume her power but failed. (that is the reason he was seeking out your Sire was as he realized your bloodline, He still seeks her as a prize). As Quastar you can tell he is from the roman era putting Callisto's Age at around 3000 years.
Arigon himself said Virgil isn't Callisto's childe.
After this update, I ran some theories past Ptolemy, and have come to the conclusion that Virgil is in fact against the MC and Calisto, but he is not in fact, Arcas, her childe. He was destroyed. Virgil is Plubius, a Roman Patrician, turned vampire lord.
The devs never confirmed Virgil = Plubius afaik, it's a Arigon hypotheses. I don't know who Plubius is in any case.

So none of that Arcas stuff applies (attempted to kill Callisto etc., motive for seeking out MC).
What I can say with conviction is the links about Callisto as well as Virgil are all part of the Sumerians Pantheon and Lore as related to Innana.
Well given the game is inspired by VtM everything is related to that lore to some extent. There's no evidence Callisto or Virgil have any close connection to the myths though. At this point both are only just coming around to the idea there's an elder entombed in the area, let alone that it's a myth.

You need to be careful parsing what Arigon has said, most of it is his own conjecture, not information confirmed by the devs.
 

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My compressed unofficial Android ports of Rebirth with Zoey Raven walkthrough.:

EP1
Mega

EP2
Mega

EP3
Mega

EP4
Mega

EP5 update 6
Mega

Usual gestures, save name/delete, seethru textbox, resizeable game and dialogue text.
Scrollable textbox - no more text off the bottom of your screen
Alternative persistent saves/log location
Grant storage permissions on first run!

Now all end of episode saves will be imported by the next episode.
Updated my Android port to Ep5 Update 6
 

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I am on Episode 3 and there is something about Laurie I can't quite pin down. Laurie has known the MC since childhood and is kind of a best friend relationship prior to the MC getting turned. However now there are times it seems Laurie has these moments of jealousy with Sharon & becomes antagonistic towards her, I don't think it is because she is the MC's Thrall now. It seems more than that. Like Laurie is protecting a loved one. Anyway just an observation.
 

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I am on Episode 3 and there is something about Laurie I can't quite pin down. Laurie has known the MC since childhood and is kind of a best friend relationship prior to the MC getting turned. However now there are times it seems Laurie has these moments of jealousy with Sharon & becomes antagonistic towards her, I don't think it is because she is the MC's Thrall now. It seems more than that. Like Laurie is protecting a loved one. Anyway just an observation.
I took it that Laurie has feelings for the MC, she is head over heels into him and totally jealous against Serena
 

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Memory is a great artist. For every man and for every woman it makes the recollection of his or her life a work of art and an unfaithful record.

Which legend? Arigon claimed Calisto = . The devs never confirmed this afaik, it's a Arigon hypotheses.

I believe the devs have confirmed Calisto's the most powerful vampire in game after the two myths. Based on this & her Hiereia title it's not unreasonable to assume she hails from Ancient Greece (up to 3000 years old).

Arigon himself said Virgil isn't Callisto's childe.

The devs never confirmed Virgil = Plubius afaik, it's a Arigon hypotheses. I don't know who Plubius is in any case.

So none of that Arcas stuff applies (attempted to kill Callisto etc., motive for seeking out MC).

Well given the game is inspired by VtM everything is related to that lore to some extent. There's no evidence Callisto or Virgil have any close connection to the myths though. At this point both are only just coming around to the idea there's an elder entombed in the area, let alone that it's a myth.

You need to be careful parsing what Arigon has said, most of it is his own conjecture, not information confirmed by the devs.
Does Lilith/Lilitu/Lilis make an appearance or is mentioned by Calisto?. Since Lilith is a female figure in Mesopotamian and Judaic lore who is theorized to be the first Wife of Adam but was banished from the Garden of Eden,she is supposedly a primordial She-Demon. Makes me wonder if Calisto is Lilith's Cousin or Lilith had a Daughter.
 

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It's done. Thank you to everyone who has sent us bug reports. If you still find any, pls let me know. Dm, or in the coments, or whatever.
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Does Lilith/Lilitu/Lilis make an appearance or is mentioned by Calisto?. Since Lilith is a female figure in Mesopotamian and Judaic lore who is theorized to be the first Wife of Adam but was banished from the Garden of Eden,she is supposedly a primordial She-Demon. Makes me wonder if Calisto is Lilith's Cousin or Lilith had a Daughter.
not atm and unlikely in future.
 
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Does Lilith/Lilitu/Lilis make an appearance or is mentioned by Calisto?. Since Lilith is a female figure in Mesopotamian and Judaic lore who is theorized to be the first Wife of Adam but was banished from the Garden of Eden,she is supposedly a primordial She-Demon. Makes me wonder if Calisto is Lilith's Cousin or Lilith had a Daughter.
Forget about everything: this is just a fucking fantasy minestrone. Just enjoy as much as you can the ride and forgive the shitty russenglish (courtesy by the Authors).
 

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Forget about everything: this is just a fucking fantasy minestrone. Just enjoy as much as you can the ride and forgive the shitty russenglish (courtesy by the Authors).
:geek: Loving Rebirth, listen I get it Fantasy. I am just a nerd when it comes to Vampire folklore. Calisto is cool,plus she proves in this "Fantasy" universe Vampires are as Old as the Cradle of Civilization. :LOL: sorry if me nerding on Vampires in Rebirth and just in general got under your skin. :unsure: But then again Rebirth is awesome so Sorry not sorry.
 
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Since learning Gregor is now a thrall Carmen will ask/demand mc to take her with them when the confront Astrid since she is a vamp hunter. I know she wants revenge, and since she is already tired of waiting to go hunting for Gregor. Will she ask to be a thrall for added power or maybe go all the way and be Mc's baby vamp so she can hunt on her own. She is pissed! Ready to kick ass and take names. Looking forward to see how this plays out. Either way, as always it's a great game.
 

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I do like the game, but something went terribly wrong code wise. In chapter 4 I hit Marcius' dead end, but after installing walkthrough mod I not only suddenly've gotten claws (no idea where from, took every power I came by in 1-3), but also a whole new scene and a line or few of dialogue in every other (as I was skipping read only to catch up and kept being stopped by them).

Also, have to say that Astrid's story felt very unsatisfying in the path where
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I do like the game, but something went terribly wrong code wise. In chapter 4 I hit Marcius' dead end, but after installing walkthrough mod I not only suddenly've gotten claws (no idea where from, took every power I came by in 1-3), but also a whole new scene and a line or few of dialogue in every other (as I was skipping read only to catch up and kept being stopped by them).
claws were gained early game.
 

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Just finished and yeah, what a great piece of game. I hate vampire stuff thanks to Twilight but the story here is really interesting with great dialogues. I wish there was more paths, more choices which really matters and more use of powers we gained, not just once the moment we unleash them... Same goes with stats, I had so much hope when I saw them for the first time but at the end they are mostly useless... I love Sharon and relation with her, Laurie on the other hand is annoying as fuck. She acts like a dumb bimbo, constantly starting fights with Sharon when she has not a single reason really, if she wants to be angry at someone that should be MC and only him.

The more history goes on, the more messed up it becomes (in a bad way). I felt like from aprox episode 3 things in dialogues and history are somehow rushed up, leaving some unnecessary gaps and confusion. Sometimes I felt like one obvious sentence could solve problem but instead it jumps ahead and ahead and ahead... For example: MC had visions with that girl and then fought her in the temple, why he didn't describe her to Calypso? She could have known a lot if he described it in details, but when they met he tells like nothing happens really or that "maybe" there is some elder there.

Yeah, sometimes it had no sense but overall it is a great story and looking forward for next updates.
 
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KarokaKOHORT

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claws were gained early game.
That's what I figured. My issue was that playing "vanilla" chapter 4 I didn't have them (which lead to game over), yet I did when playing modded version, even tho I used the same save from chapter 3. Also, wasn't using mod in 1-3.

Laurie on the other hand is annoying as fuck
Couldn't agree more. Lost any potential interest in her back in chapter 1 when she refused to take ounce of responsibility for running her mouth the first chance she gets and in convo with Sharon straight up turned to PC saying that he fucked up... which is ironically true, only the fuck up was trusting her.

Of course PC didn't help himself by being quite dim in his approach to coming-out, but that's another topic.
 
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