phinny1

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Pretty sure dream girl
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Also I realized I was being kind of uncharitable when I borderline accused the author of plagiarism earlier so an alternate less hostile theory is that he didn't realize he was writing himself into a corner until he started episode 5 and realized he was in a corner. So rather than stalling in an attempt to milk supporters, the episode 5 situation could be him stalling to try and figure out how to wrap the story up in a satisfying way. Still not exactly honest but not outright fraudulent at least.
 

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Not sure if our dream girl is better for the world, but chances she has a other plan for the MC than being food are at least significant higher...which makes me root for her.
Curious if Virgil will also come down to the caves soon, really want to see the fatty die.

I think Dream girl is the Bad one locked in the temple and the "creature" is guarding the temple to keep her locked up and prevent her return. Notice she has control over those who disappeared and isn't just feeding on them all? Not too mention the fear aura that radiates from the cave, seems like things to prevent anything from coming in and providing food for the other. Dream girl wants her power back to escape hence why she is feeding on everyone that makes it into the temple. She also wants the MC to choose the Blood path, not sure what that is yet but I don't think it will be good for the humans. That's just my opinion though. We shall see as things unfold.
 

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I think Dream girl is the Bad one locked in the temple and the "creature" is guarding the temple to keep her locked up and prevent her return. Notice she has control over those who disappeared and isn't just feeding on them all? Not too mention the fear aura that radiates from the cave, seems like things to prevent anything from coming in and providing food for the other. Dream girl wants her power back to escape hence why she is feeding on everyone that makes it into the temple. She also wants the MC to choose the Blood path, not sure what that is yet but I don't think it will be good for the humans. That's just my opinion though. We shall see as things unfold.
Hm, i doubt a vamp with the power of one of those two would just sit on their asses for millennia to guard the other, they would just kill the other or drain her and be done with it.
That fear aura doesn't seem to work on any vamp except the MC, like none of the others even noticed it.
How or why there are two ancients down there, which are hostile to each other, is a good question...i don't expect much from the little time we have left thought.
As for the humans, well they are cattle and they breed fast enough, so even if a couple of billion die there will be enough food left.
The problem with this ancients usually is, they drink vamp blood and if they are just awoken from a millenia long slumber, then thausands of vamps...
 

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Why are a lot of folks failing to use spoilers when discussing end-game content that just dropped with Update 10? I still sometimes see people saying they're a few updates behind, not to mention anyone who might have been busy last week and not gotten to this quite yet.

I have played it, but only one week seems awfully fast to be giving away a lot of this stuff already for anyone who is slightly delayed. There is such a thing as real life that can delay someone.
 
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Now I wonder if one of them creatures is afraid of the sun if it ever gets out. If not we about to see some JoJo Bizarre Adventure type havoc. lol
 

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Now I wonder if one of them creatures is afraid of the sun if it ever gets out. If not we about to see some JoJo Bizarre Adventure type havoc. lol
If we look at the lore this game is inspired on
Yes, they should be burn under the sun. But there are also powers which prevent sundamage or powers/magic which let them control the weather etc....so yeah, your average apocalyptic nightmare, if a single one wakes up.

If we use only the game, who knows, no details on how powerfull vamps can get, not even in myths, neither what abilitys/magic exist, or if there were prior accidents with ancients.
 

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On the one hand, it's a certain type of justice that Callisto's arrogance got her killed. On the other, having her get out somehow but still terrified of the experience might have been beneficial to the entire vampire community. Instead, folks like Virgil will keep poking around and fumbling enough to let that ancient build her power to the point of breaking free and devastating the world. I really hope dream girl is able to defeat cave monster or the world is in for a very bad future.
This is the reason i dont like Calisto death there, she would take things serioulsly now she know is possible to things older than her to be awake something she doubted as a complete joke and impossible (make sense since it looks like the older you are the most likely for you to stay sleeping for ever ( in other people perspective it feels like eternity ) if you think Innana nap was like Calisto entire life multiple times ) to the point the old ones now really dont even know about those ancient vampires, the mc is too weak him surviving dont change much this is a problem to me, even something like virgil would be to much for the mc so he cant deal with danger even if he knew about it
 

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This is the reason i dont like Calisto death there, she would take things serioulsly now she know is possible to things older than her to be awake something she doubted as a complete joke and impossible (make sense since it looks like the older you are the most likely for you to stay sleeping for ever ( in other people perspective it feels like eternity ) if you think Innana nap was like Calisto entire life multiple times ) to the point the old ones now really dont even know about those ancient vampires, the mc is too weak him surviving dont change much this is a problem to me, even something like virgil would be to much for the mc so he cant deal with danger even if he knew about it
Yeah, but Callisto/MC searching for information, preparing, rally strong allies etc that would likely take 2 or 3 other full episodes, we only got 3 updates left...
But yes feels rushed and really bad how this update was handled.
 
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even something like virgil would be to much for the mc so he cant deal with danger even if he knew about it
No one we've seen in game would be able to take down the ancients head on, including the MC.

The only plausible solution would be sealing the ancients in again. That's how they were halted in olden times after all.

The barrier is getting Virgil etc. to believe the level of threat and act accordingly.

I'd be severely disappointed if the MC ends up saving the day with his powers or magic weapons. He wouldn't stand a chance without industrial grade plot amour.
 
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No one we've seen in game would be able to take down the ancients head on, including the MC.

The only plausible solution would be sealing the ancients in again. That's how they were halted in olden times after all.

The barrier is getting the Virgil etc. to believe the level of threat and act accordingly.

I'd be severely disappointed if the MC ends up saving the day with his powers or magic weapons. He wouldn't stand a chance without industrial grade plot amour.
For once in his life, he can be smart. Odysseus like, "-I'm nobody. -Nobody hurts me." :D
 

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No one we've seen in game would be able to take down the ancients head on, including the MC.

The only plausible solution would be sealing the ancients in again. That's how they were halted in olden times after all.

The barrier is getting the Virgil etc. to believe the level of threat and act accordingly.

I'd be severely disappointed if the MC ends up saving the day with his powers or magic weapons. He wouldn't stand a chance without industrial grade plot amour.
i hate when authors start building something up and make the situation 10000% impossible for the mc even with plot armor, then make something extremily forced to make the mc survive, like a world shaking change in the planet or something, i hate how this developed i like the hard challenge who you can beat if you overperform alot, much more than the "you can only win this with plot armor + someone being plot killed"
 
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I know there's a bit of confusion whether or not it's 3 updates to finish the game, or whether it's just to finish the chapter. Would be really disappointing to end the whole game in just 3 updates, as there is a lot of story to be to be told after the cave monster, such as MC learning his abilities (and how to control them) and rising up the ranks.

If the story had been MC as a "Neo-esque" character, it would have been a better game than the cave.
 
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I know there's a bit of confusion whether or not it's 3 updates to finish the game, or whether it's just to finish the chapter. Would be really disappointing to end the whole game in just 3 updates, as there is a lot of story to be to be told after the cave monster, such as MC learning his abilities (and how to control them) and rising up the ranks.

If the story had been MC as a "Neo-esque" character, it would have been a better game than the cave.


Hi

Well, it's here. As I've said before, I think. 3 more updates should get us to the finish line.
Thank you to those who have submitted bug reports. We've been scrambling the last couple of days to fix those that have been reported.
Anyway, here are the links, and keep those reports coming :D
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Best regards
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Any other questions? And no, no sixth episode is planned(AFAIK).
 
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This is the reason i dont like Calisto death there, she would take things serioulsly now she know is possible to things older than her to be awake something she doubted as a complete joke and impossible
If she really is supposed to be Rebirth's equivalent of a 4th generation vampire then it's actually quite believable that she would not believe for a second that there was a vampire more powerful than her sleeping under some podunk American suburb. If the story was set in Iraq or Syria perhaps she would have approached things more cautiously.
 
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I know there's a bit of confusion whether or not it's 3 updates to finish the game, or whether it's just to finish the chapter. Would be really disappointing to end the whole game in just 3 updates, as there is a lot of story to be to be told after the cave monster, such as MC learning his abilities (and how to control them) and rising up the ranks.

If the story had been MC as a "Neo-esque" character, it would have been a better game than the cave.
Yeah, i used to like how this game gave me a "Alexandra" vibe, then this cave plot come a ruined everything about the mc development
 
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