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ArturiousDesign

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I'll say it again, Every update this game makes me feel like such a bad ass! I have all the powers and I feel so powerful. I can control Minds and hear thoughts, I have long Pop out Claws, and I can turn invisible. and now I can fuck? This game is just the best!
 
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jhustrue

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If you are looking for porn, no, it's not a porn game.

It's a story based game with occasional sex.

If it's porn you are looking for, you'll have to look elsewhere.
I don't mind a game with a slow burn. I meant in general. It's really not much. It'll take too long to finish at this rate. The plot hasn't gotten far at all.
 

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I disagree. Animations add little and are resource intensive, which makes updates even shorter. I'll take 20 story slides over an animated sex scene any day.
it depends, if they are going to hire one person to just do animations I don't think that will make the updates shorter than before.
The question should be if they will rather put that guy to make renders instead of animations, what is more worth.
I love animations in games and I think for sex scenes is a must nowadays... but for games with Story, I can certainly agree I prefer 200 renders that advance the plot instead of just 1 or 2 good sex / animations.
 

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Same though as all the others out there as I quickly read through this update and can't wait for more.
And, of course, we have more question now and not less or at least I have.

Miri was a little let down. Her hair cut doesn't make seens with before, so my logical mind screams continuous error at the moment.
Two more savepoints here, so I second guess a lot of the options that I was given here.

Miri's soul stain could be the fork in the path between a vampire that try to keep his munanity intact and an animal. So now I'm an animal.

The paths for Laurie on the other hand aren't so clear in my mind. Can be an opportunity to strengthen the bond between them, yet their is the imminent danger that is also there. Though I don't think that she will die on either of the two paths, we will see and for once I'm not bold enough to bet for it.;)

Also he can now become hard and even ejaculate. Brings the question can he also fertilise the egg? And what if yes? A Dhampir? Also what would means this for the host?
Miri's soul stain could be the fork in the path between a vampire that try to keep his munanity intact and an animal. So now I'm an animal.

I don't think you are an animal yet. However you may be tempted to lean on that power more and more in the future. If not careful you could become very controlling and manipulative loosing more humanity all the time.


The paths for Laurie on the other hand aren't so clear in my mind. Can be an opportunity to strengthen the bond between them, yet their is the imminent danger that is also there. Though I don't think that she will die on either of the two paths, we will see and for once I'm not bold enough to bet for it.;)

Laurie is beginning to show jelousy in her attitude with Shannon. All your time is spent with Shannon .Laurie feels as if she is being treated like a little child in her opinion ( you get up, she is sent to bed ). When danger presents itself, if you choose to send her to the basement. she is no longer a partner but a child that need's to be protected ( NOT GOOD ) so I think she need's to be by my side not behind me.
 

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I had to check what you meant here and when you meet her first time she's wearing a hat so what continuity error?
I mean this:
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The hairline doesn't match. And I'm to be know that I think about a lot of this little details, but am tend to ignore the most obviously one and often ask to many question when others don't think and enjoy the scenery.:p
 

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Any idea what soulstain means? But it did increase charisma so I chose to use the mind magic
Soulstain may in fact be part of the crimson path to pull you deeper towards it in effect a measurable drop in humanity
Same here. I'm a little concerned with potential fallout, but I figure that at the very least he finally got laid and maybe more importantly, he learned something about his new power.
I personally think that if you do the whisper a second time to take advantage of Miri, you take your power to a level that makes most anyone maliable to the point that you could become power drunk with your new found ability. Shannon stated that the rest of the vamps have indeed lost their humanity, consider humans as food or tools, and that they are above humans. If you took her without permission; at that point she became just another tool to you a guinea pig as it were. You now are on the road to the crimson path. Everything else is maxed out at 25 and if you use whisper only one time that too is at 25 so I choose to not add the extra 2 points. I may be wrong but I don't think I am, only time will tell.
It does have a feeling that it was an "evil" choice. But remember that we know the variable soulstain only by looking at the code, not because it is something we are supposed to know. He did felt like a douche though, and I kind of did too. B
I like the update and it did feel a little short and also animations when possible would make the game a lot better
it depends, if they are going to hire one person to just do animations I don't think that will make the updates shorter than before.
The question should be if they will rather put that guy to make renders instead of animations, what is more worth.
I love animations in games and I think for sex scenes is a must nowadays... but for games with Story, I can certainly agree I prefer 200 renders that advance the plot instead of just 1 or 2 good sex / animations.
They are almost never worth the cost. A good animation requires lots and I mean lots of renders for the transitions to be smooth. Render that can be used to either move the story forward or to make other scenes less static, like having a few different renders for to focus on the characters talking during conversations and such.

Almost all scenes that can be done by animation can be done and convey the same message and feeling with a few nice renders.

Ofc the sex scenes should be animated... To me an sex game without animations, is just a boring comic book...
and ofc more will be interested in the game, if it gets animations.

People who say they don't want animations, don't know what good quality is... and I would rather wait longer for good quality, instead of getting a comic book, called a game :p
Oh yes, please nothing people love more than being told by others what they should like and why they are mistaken about their taste. Please keep doing that, people must love you at parties.
And you are so right, thanks for opening our eyes. What measures the quality of a game is its animations!! what an amazing thesis you have there. Call the nobel foundation, we have a winner.
 
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I'd take meaningful renders over animations. Animations take a long time to make, are usually poor quality and are difficult to make. If you can't make top tier animations or have the PC power to make good quality animations in decent numbers quickly, you're better off just making more renders.
 

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Oh yes, please nothing people love more than being told by others what they should like and why they are mistaken about their taste. Please keep doing that, people must love you at parties.
I can understand him a bit though... animations add a bit "more" of quality, that is true, anything that implements the game always adds quality. The part about more people being interested in the game because it has animations can also partially be the truth, most games I support does have animations though I think is because most devs nowadays do animations, after all, they feel more alive. I won't say though that makes a game better just for having animations, it improves the game for sure but is not something that will make the game shit if it doesn't have any...that is BS.
As for the last part, I don't agree with this guy either... There are lots of Japan vns without any animations like Tsukihime or many others that will beat about any other games with amazing animations.
They are almost never worth the cost. A good animation requires lots and I mean lots of renders for the transitions to be smooth. Render that can be used to either move the story forward or to make other scenes less statics.

Almost all scenes that can be done by animation be done and convey the same message with a few nice renders.
and that is what I said mostly if I can get more story instead of just 1 or 2 animations I will choose story before animations any day when it comes to sex though I prefer animations than static renders.
So if the question is what do you prefer
30 static renders of sex or 1 sex animation I will choose the animation.
1 sex animation or 30 Static renders that advance plot and story... I will choose 30 static renders.
It all depends on where that time will be used.

That is not true. An animation done poorly does not increase the quality of the game, it decreases it. A feature bad implemented is not necessary a plus over not having that feature, specially if you have a totally acceptable alternative.
And where exactly did I say I was talking about a poorly done animation, I was talking about good animations, that much is implied when I said it will always improve the game, No one will say poorly animations will improve a game.
Games like Badik, for example, are good in all things, so yes a game like Badik without animation will have less quality in a "way" for me yet it will still be pretty good and I will enjoy it the same without them, but the animations does improve the game even more.

It is always a matter of benefit and cost. But I don't care a shit about animations in general for what they bring. I mean, where it all began looks amazing, but for what it takes ocean, which is extremely talented to create a new animation that takes a lot of time out of the rest of the game.
And I seriously don't care a shit about animation specially for sex, I can understand it for scenes in which movement is important, as people dancing, a race, an airship. But for sex the bring nothing to me.
You may be of the fewer people out here that will prefer static sex scenes over-animated sex scenes, As I said it depends on the question of how that time will be used, if the guy is still going to render sex scenes, I will prefer animated ones instead of just static sex scenes.
If the question is animations or more renders to advance the plot, I already said I prefer the story over any animation.
 
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I can understand him a bit though... animations add a bit "more" of quality, that is true, anything that implements the game always add quality. The part about more people being interested in the game because it has animations can also partially be the truth, most games I support does have animations though I think is because most devs nowadays do animations, after all, they feel more alive.
As for the last part, I don't agree with this guy either... There is lots of Japan vns without any animations like Tsukihime or many others that will beat about any other games with amazing animations.
That is not true. An animation done poorly does not increase the quality of the game, it decreases it. A feature bad implemented is not necessary a plus over not having that feature, specially if you have a totally acceptable alternative.
and that is what I said mostly if I can get more story instead of just 1 or 2 animations I will choose story before animations any day when it comes to sex though I prefer animations than static renders.
So if the question is what do you prefer
30 static renders of sex or 1 sex animation I will choose the animation.
1 sex animation or 30 Static renders that advance plot and story... I will choose 30 static renders.
It all depends on where that time will be used.
It is always a matter of benefit and cost. But I don't care a shit about animations in general for what they bring. I mean, where it all began looks amazing, but for what it takes ocean, which is extremely talented, to create a new animation it takes a lot of time out of the rest of the game, in which you can tell it is always the bottleneck.
And I seriously don't care a shit about animation for sex, I can understand it for scenes in which movement is important, as people dancing, a race, an airship, a fight, a meteor striking earth. Things that actually have variation and are particular to the environment. But for sex they bring nothing to me. Specially cause in the end, sex animation are predictable even. Dick goes in, dick goes out. Seen one sex scene in each position, you pretty much seen them all. A nice render and specially great writing is all I need to enjoy it.
 
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There was a bug in this scene, just a creepy bug..
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The previous image from this actually merges with this scene, and you can see her head outside the window as if there was a giant outside her car lol!​
 
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There was a bug in this scene, just a creepy bug..
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The previous image from this actually merges with this scene, and you can see her head outside the window as if there was a giant outside her car lol!​
Hahah that is so creepy I needed to check cause I could not believe I did not see it. And it does not happen in my game.
 

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Everyone has their own flow how they watch a VN and or how they want to experience scenes. An animation dictates the flow for the viewer. In my opinion you have a great quality of story and renders. Changing scenes and or interactions now to animation would hurt the VN more then it would do good, according to my tastes at least.
 
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I got the same, was probably just a little code slip Option 1 instead of 2 or something.

On another matter later when you have fun with the cop, beforehand she is more than eager (before using whispers again), then afterward its as though she cant even remember thinking that, so it would seem more believable or immersive if afterwards she remembered those feelings, but wasn't sure of them, feeling that it was so sudden, not just completely forget the MC (With her who is this strange man-like response), Also she would still be under the affect of the alcohol and blood drain, so you'd think she should have been really mellow, all in all a good scene
this simply proves that "secret whisper" doesn't work in the long run if the target's nature goes against the command
Finally some beautiful kitty fight
I didn't want to interfere but damn! Since when Laurie got provess > 10 ? kitty got claws!
Same here. I'm a little concerned with potential fallout, but I figure that at the very least he finally got laid and maybe more importantly, he learned something about his new power.
Same though as all the others out there as I quickly read through this update and can't wait for more.
And, of course, we have more question now and not less or at least I have.

Miri was a little let down. Her hair cut doesn't make seens with before, so my logical mind screams continuous error at the moment.
Two more savepoints here, so I second guess a lot of the options that I was given here.

Miri's soul stain could be the fork in the path between a vampire that try to keep his munanity intact and an animal. So now I'm an animal.

The paths for Laurie on the other hand aren't so clear in my mind. Can be an opportunity to strengthen the bond between them, yet their is the imminent danger that is also there. Though I don't think that she will die on either of the two paths, we will see and for once I'm not bold enough to bet for it.;)

Also he can now become hard and even ejaculate. Brings the question can he also fertilise the egg? And what if yes? A Dhampir? Also what would means this for the host?
the soul stain is something Astrid would appreciate, but I don't give a damn rat ass about making Astrid happy. Sharon on the other hand, if she knew about it, would wear full pajamas to sleep....

Miri's soul stain could be the fork in the path between a vampire that try to keep his munanity intact and an animal. So now I'm an animal.

I don't think you are an animal yet. However you may be tempted to lean on that power more and more in the future. If not careful you could become very controlling and manipulative loosing more humanity all the time.


The paths for Laurie on the other hand aren't so clear in my mind. Can be an opportunity to strengthen the bond between them, yet their is the imminent danger that is also there. Though I don't think that she will die on either of the two paths, we will see and for once I'm not bold enough to bet for it.;)

Laurie is beginning to show jelousy in her attitude with Shannon. All your time is spent with Shannon .Laurie feels as if she is being treated like a little child in her opinion ( you get up, she is sent to bed ). When danger presents itself, if you choose to send her to the basement. she is no longer a partner but a child that need's to be protected ( NOT GOOD ) so I think she need's to be by my side not behind me.
leaving Laurie behind only works if MC returns from the woods (he's the protagonist so we the players know he will but the character doesn't) , since if MC gets killed by the thing, Laurie would be a thrall without her master. And that never ends well. The safest place for Laurie is with the gang. and this will be where using every power will matter
 
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Ayhsel

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And where exactly did I say I was talking about a poorly done animation, I was talking about good animations, that much is implied when I said it will always improve the game, No one will say poorly animations will improve a game.
Games like Badik, for example, are good in all things, so yes a game like Badik without animation will have less quality in a "way" for me yet it will still be pretty good and I will enjoy it the same without them, but the animations does improve the game even more.
Look at your first statement and then see that it is not a direct implication:
I can understand him a bit though... animations add a bit "more" of quality, that is true, anything that implements the game always adds quality.
So my answer is valid to your statement as I said:
That is not true. An animation done poorly does not increase the quality of the game, it decreases it. A feature bad implemented is not necessary a plus over not having that feature, specially if you have a totally acceptable alternative.
You may be of the fewer people out here that will prefer static sex scenes over-animated sex scenes, As I said it depends on the question of how that time will be used, if the guy is still going to render sex scenes, I will prefer animated ones instead of just static sex scenes.
As I said when I brought as an example where it all began, that nobody can say its animation are not beautiful, as his renders, it is a matter of benefit and cost. The key fact is that for what they bring, they are not worth the cost, in terms of money and time, almost all the time.
In a perfect world, we would get everything, but we have real life limitations and almost every scene can be done correctly with a few renders.

No need to clarify, but I will do it before somebody answers, these are my opinions, of course.
 
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