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Nulldev

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I think the reason you received facepalms, is because you asked why Sharon would fall in love with the MC, as if there was no reason for it.
You were then given reasons for it.
To which you replied "That's your choice". :unsure:
Which means that the reason your MC comes across like someone she wouldn't want to fall in love with, is also because of "your choices".
But Sharon does not react to the MC depravity (aka player choices).

At least yet...
 

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But Sharon does not react to the MC depravity (aka player choices).

At least yet...
No, but player choices alter the perceived personality of the MC.
If you choose to make a girl a slave, or not.
If you choose to make food of Carmen, or not.
Makes one choice represent more depravity and one represent more humanity.

Perhaps, if the player has chosen to act depraved, that's why they cannot see a reason for her to fall in love with them.
Whereas the people who've chosen to act more humanely, can.

IDK, I didn't facepalm you. But that's possibly why you received them.
 
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What I meant was that enthralling Laurie was supposed to be their only option, but on the other hand keeping vampire hunters in their house and locking up Astrid don't seem to be pressing issues.
First, Laurie was a screw up on the MC's part. Revealing the existence of vampires to plain jane mortals without first enthralling them (or mind wiping them, or killing them) is a very serious crime. In the case of Carmen and Gregor, it wasn't Sharon and the MC who committed the crime, although that won't stop Astrid from attempting to shift the blame onto them. Second, Sharon and the MC are law enforcement in their town now, and "imprisonment as food" is certainly on the options list for apprehended hunters. So they have a lot more leeway these days, and no longer have to worry about corrupt archons attempting to enslave them on the slightest pretext. Of course someone could still complain to the almost certainly just as corrupt princeps, and I suspect Astrid is going to do just that.
 
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Sharon won't get back with Astrid but she still cares about her to some extent. She doesn't even want to believe that Astrid sent the hunters. Astrid did everything possible to hurt Sharon but she still is too lenient with her.
Sharon may love mc but not madly not in love with him. MC is willing to go to any extent to please her but she couldn't believe Astrid sent the hunters after them when mc told her.
I think I already explained why Sharon has a hard time believing that Astrid would go as far as hiring vampire hunters to kill her, so I'm not going to repeat my points again. One thing I forgot to mention is that initially, the only proof they had was the word of a vampire hunter, who tried to kill the MC. Why on earth would she believe what Carmen was saying? They are mortal enemies after all. Once the MC and Andrew got proof, she realized she was wrong instantly. Was Sharon naive not to even consider the possibility of Astrid being behind it all? Yes! Deep down, does Sharon still care about Astrid a little bit? Possibly. But, if you combine all the things I mentioned I think her behavior can be perfectly explained without blaming it all on how she feels about Astrid.
 
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Sharon clearly has mixed emotions on how to proceed with Astrid now that they have all the goods on her. Will she do the lawful thing (Vampire Law not human law) or will she cave to sentimentality. I think a lot of that answer will depend on the MC and his actions and attitudes thus far in the game and moving into this phase where Sharon is the Law and represents the Princep here in Scottstown. Does that mean she can do what she wants? Maybe.... depends on how much risk she is willing to carry.

BigStuffedTiger already explained, and I have explained and frankly it is now tiresome for people to whine about Laurie getting thralled and Carmen not being thralled (yet). If you are in your own back yard that you are in charge of, and no one higher knows what you are doing, you can get away with a lot. If you have a bald prick with his face in yours all the time, and he has the goods on you, you are fucked... or in this case, Laurie and the MC and Sharon were fucked. Get over it people. Scottstown is a new ballgame.

The real test will come when Vampfu Calisto comes to town and tells the MC to "Do" something that will no doubt rock the pleasant little boat of Scottstown, for her amusement or whatever reason she states.... such as Devour Sharon, Embrace Carmen, Devour Astrid, kill Andrew and Gregor and keep Laurie as your pet..... That would be some fucked up shit am I right???
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I feel like the writer tells us that the MC is supposed to be a generally caring guy and care even more for Laurie (atleast at the start of the game), but this isn't shown at all.
He comes across as bland, because he's got no strong feelings or reactions one way or the other. Tragic things happen to him or Laurie and he's just OK with it. He doesn't even have qualms about kidnapping women to use as blood dolls.
He's not human anymore and needs blood to stay alive. So yeah, blood dolls and feeding from the girls is just how things are for him now. The same goes for Carmen being caged, she tried to kill him and Sharon. Keeping her in the cage was a more human solution than killing or enslaving her for what she tried.
On the other hand an emo vampire would be terrible. Imagine the MC crying blood every night cuz he's an inmortal creature of the night.

Another thing about Sharon and Astrid is that they are at least partially bonded, which partly explains why Sharon doesn't want to believe that Astrid would even consider hiring the vampire hunters.

Oh, did I mention that they are also one step away from being blood bonded to each other (if you didn't fuck Miri), which from my limited understanding of the lore is pretty much the vampire equivalent of regular marriage? How on earth can anyone say that they are not in love?
Blood bonds don't work like that, they have to drink each other blood three times in a short period of time. If they wait some time the bond fade away.
Sharon and Astrid don't share any bonds after all this time being apart. Also humans bonds aren't the same as vampire ones.
 
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He's not human anymore and needs blood to stay alive. So yeah, blood dolls and feeding from the girls is just how things are for him now.
But that's ignoring Sharon's purpose in this story. Why give the MC a teacher that introduces giving into the thirst as a dilemma and then not do anything with this plot-wise? Maybe the MC isn't even on board with Sharon's meditation business, because he's OK with feeding on his best friend just so he can get an erection. But then we don't know, because this again happened blandly without any drama.

BigStuffedTiger already explained, and I have explained and frankly it is now tiresome for people to whine about Laurie getting thralled and Carmen not being thralled (yet). If you are in your own back yard that you are in charge of, and no one higher knows what you are doing, you can get away with a lot. If you have a bald prick with his face in yours all the time, and he has the goods on you, you are fucked... or in this case, Laurie and the MC and Sharon were fucked. Get over it people. Scottstown is a new ballgame.
Enthrallment just seems like such a bad thing for how insignificant it turned out to be for the MC's characterization, when he did it not just to anyone, but his best friend. Who wants to be like the creepy guy Andrew? Well, Laurie apparantly, because she didn't even consider any other options. Apparently they could've also just moved a few hours away out of the Archon's orbit, like they did later on for unrelated reasons (Sharon wasn't archon, yet, when they kept Carmen alive).
We can explain why she needed to be enthralled all we want in hindsight, but the characters didn't even bother to ask, if there's any other way.
 
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Well, Laurie apparantly, because she didn't even consider any other options. Apparently they could've also just moved a few hours away out of the Archon's orbit, like they did later on for unrelated reasons (Sharon wasn't archon, yet, when they kept Carmen alive).
No, they couldn't. They had two options either enthrall her and avoid more serious punishment or be punished. Eg. blood bound Sharon to this idiotic archon and MC to Astrid or kill them both.

It may not be explained very good but in the Carmila ensure that the Masquerade is keep up is a major rule and breaking the Masquerade has serious consequence. Eg. being turned without the approval of an archon or prince would have been the end of both the Fleegling and hthe vampire that is responsible for it in the source material.

If you would want to play another game and encounter more of this setting I would recommend Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines.
Also his coming up prequel could be good to but this must first been proved.
 

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Enthrallment just seems like such a bad thing for how insignificant it turned out to be for the MC's characterization, when he did it not just to anyone, but his best friend. Who wants to be like the creepy guy Andrew? Well, Laurie apparantly, because she didn't even consider any other options. Apparently they could've also just moved a few hours away out of the Archon's orbit, like they did later on for unrelated reasons (Sharon wasn't archon, yet, when they kept Carmen alive).
We can explain why she needed to be enthralled all we want in hindsight, but the characters didn't even bother to ask, if there's any other way.
OMFG Dude
You just do not get it. They asked could they just run, and Sharon said it was a bad idea. In the jurisdiction they were in at the time of the transgression the options were death or enthrallment. Even Laurie confirms this by asking the MC that exact question.. go replay it if you missed it. WTF do you not understand about plain english words written clearly in the story?
I am not addressing this again. Clearly either you are choosing to ignore the facts, or are a troll. In either case, this matter is closed as far as I am concerned.

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The other thing that needs to be ABUNDENTLY clear to folks. The MC is a Vampire. His mindset is already well on it's way to that transition. He saw the power the Archon exerted over his teacher and others in the court. He is not stupid. He wants to continue to exist, and drinking blood chips away at your humanity every time you do it. He Is NOT HUMAN. We can not ascribe the humanistic reactions you want to project onto him.
This novel requires a level of separation from reality that is slightly different than the normal separation. Folks think nothing of a mind control fuck your mom, sister, and best buddy's mom, but subjecting your best friend to the only treatment that keeps her breathing somehow seems wrong? All these games require a separation from reality. Apply the one necessary for this story or you will not enjoy it much.
 
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For all the transgressions unsuspecting younglings are responsible 4 in this game
(as a parallel, talk about waking Akasha out of her slumber then she kills king and then she burns countless others)
(on another paralell, turning a child into a blood thisrty monster and barely escaping total annihilation 4 it )
4 whatever reason, I am rooting 4 the MC, as it is clear the pattern of Akasha 4 our mommy,
the pattern of Marius 4 our surogate mommy,
the pattern of the goth archive chick from queen of the damned 4 Laurie.

HAving these refferences whenever I play this game, There is no left field shenanigans.
Everything is outta the blue in this game.

the way the higher ups are portrayed it is close to twilight as it happends very late in the game,
but also close to underworld as our surrogate mommy acting like Seline and treating us like the
hybrid she saves and turns him into her own mission,
I feel safe around her knowing I am her mission right now.
 

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OMFG Dude
You just do not get it. They asked could they just run, and Sharon said it was a bad idea. In the jurisdiction they were in at the time of the transgression the options were death or enthrallment. Even Laurie confirms this by asking the MC that exact question.. go replay it if you missed it. WTF do you not understand about plain english words written clearly in the story?
I am not addressing this again. Clearly either you are choosing to ignore the facts, or are a troll. In either case, this matter is closed as far as I am concerned.

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The other thing that needs to be ABUNDENTLY clear to folks. The MC is a Vampire. His mindset is already well on it's way to that transition. He saw the power the Archon exerted over his teacher and others in the court. He is not stupid. He wants to continue to exist, and drinking blood chips away at your humanity every time you do it. He Is NOT HUMAN. We can not ascribe the humanistic reactions you want to project onto him.
This novel requires a level of separation from reality that is slightly different than the normal separation. Folks think nothing of a mind control fuck your mom, sister, and best buddy's mom, but subjecting your best friend to the only treatment that keeps her breathing somehow seems wrong? All these games require a separation from reality. Apply the one necessary for this story or you will not enjoy it much.
Hey sorry, I wasn't trying to rub you the wrong way. I really don't hate the game, but I also wasn't expecting some nobel price worthy piece of literature. So I just thought it could be fun to get some more value out of it by critisizing and discussing it, while we wait for an update. I thought you'd be OK with that, since you were participating, but if you really think I'm just a troll, it would probably be best to ignore me. I assure you this wouldn't give me any satisfaction, because I'm not here to win any arguments.
The next time I'm posting I'm going to try to roleplay as a vampire aswell and I'm sure this will help against any possible criticism.

It may not be explained very good but in the Carmila ensure that the Masquerade is keep up is a major rule and breaking the Masquerade has serious consequence. Eg. being turned without the approval of an archon or prince would have been the end of both the Fleegling and hthe vampire that is responsible for it in the source material.

If you would want to play another game and encounter more of this setting I would recommend Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines.
Also his coming up prequel could be good to but this must first been proved.
This is kind of my point. But this game isn't absolved of any criticism, because it's got references that did it better.
I'm not shitting on the game. I just see missed opportunities for fleshing out the characters, drama and storytelling in general. Of course it's easier to immerse yourself, if you already know the references and source material. But wouldn't it be nice, if this game was better at immersing the reader on its own?
 

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"When people tell you there’s something wrong with a story, they’re almost always right. When they tell what it is that’s wrong and how it can be fixed, they’re almost always wrong" - Neil Gaiman
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he knows what he talks about for sure.
 
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he knows what he talks about for sure.
yes he does, since he is far from being an amazing writer and almost everything he writes feels like a series B of something that could have been done far far better! reminds me too much of Asimov amazing concepts poorly developed and implemented!
 
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In playing this game, and maybe prior to making comments that have been addressed countless times, if folks could just spend a little time scrolling through and reading the forum, I think most questions could be answered. If you have questions on Laurie for instance, do a search in this thread only for Laurie and you will find literally 400-500 posts that deal with her. That may seem daunting, but maybe... perhaps.... possibly... someone's question might already have been put forth. Then dissected and extolled upon ad nauseum. Then before posting questions that have already been discussed to death and reaping a justly worded response for your efforts, you will already KNOW the answer to a question... IF your question has not been answered then at least you will have CONTEXT and that will perhaps make your comment, question, or what have you, a bit more intelligently presented.

Sadly, most of the folks who make comments that get facepalmed or addressed with some degree of scorn, skip through the story quickly to see what they can wank their weenie to, without paying attention to the setting, the discussions and the fact this is not a porn novel. Now while the most recent discussion I weighed in on seemed to be an intelligent thought out question/concern, BUT.... it is one that could have been researched Just a Little Bit, and then maybe a set of less controversial questions along the same lines would be:

Does the fact that Laurie was his bestie, and he was forced to thrall her, make her more or less likely to be selected as the love interest?

Does his previous relationship with Laurie endanger Sharon's supposed easy romance path?

Do you think that Laurie will be the cause of Sharon's death due to Sharon having a trait about saving Laurie?

Do you think that Laurie will be embraced by- MC? Sharon? Something else?

These questions all are based from where we currently are in the story, not back in chapter 1 where we discussed her thralling and why it happened. These questions are all related to her relationship to the MC and the thought processes going on, and yes the thralling, as well as his relationships with the other currently known love interests. (all 5 have been revealed, it is just number 4 is hard to nail down. 1,2,3,and 5 are all identified clearly)

I am not in the habit of just ignoring folks for their posts, but I will make some pretty pointed or sharp comments when the peace and friendliness of our discussions is at stake, or if someone says or asks or continues to pursue issues that have been discussed to death and could be answered by reading through the discussions.
Peace
 

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The next time I'm posting I'm going to try to roleplay as a vampire aswell and I'm sure this will help against any possible criticism.
No idea what is going on, have been too busy to read the thread, but we get criticized too.

Although, most critiques lately are kind "really, shining vampire teens crap? That is so stupid" "worst love story ever", "interview with the vampire is full of NTR crap, when the kid vamp steals Brad pit from Tom Cruise" "remember when vampires were scary and not just ridiculous" and my favorite "what the fuck is a chocolate vampire? Are you that dumb?"

EDIT: if anyone cares about the last question, yes.
 
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Hey



Apologies for now making one of these sooner, but real life gets in the way sometimes.

Work is progressing quite well on the next upload. No sex scenes in this one (sorry), so it will be a bit more story focused. But we're close if not already passed the half way mark. So, everything should be on time.



Best regards

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Question for your consideration..... What are we seeing here?????
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yes he does, since he is far from being an amazing writer and almost everything he writes feels like a series B of something that could have been done far far better! reminds me too much of Asimov amazing concepts poorly developed and implemented!
Now you made me really curious about that Level A version of American Gods. Could you link it, plz?
 

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Hey



Apologies for now making one of these sooner, but real life gets in the way sometimes.

Work is progressing quite well on the next upload. No sex scenes in this one (sorry), so it will be a bit more story focused. But we're close if not already passed the half way mark. So, everything should be on time.



Best regards

Likesblondes




Question for your consideration..... What are we seeing here?????
Peace
Easy to answer: LI number 4.:WeSmart:
 

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Does the fact that Laurie was his bestie, and he was forced to thrall her, make her more or less likely to be selected as the love interest?

Does his previous relationship with Laurie endanger Sharon's supposed easy romance path?
yes, to both answers. Laurie is MC's anchor to his humanity, every memory, every heartbreak every dream and hope they shared, MC will remeber when being with Laurie, and that's even better than Sharon's meditation, since it only works when meditating.
Do you think that Laurie will be embraced by- MC?
By MC absolutely no! it would only reinforce the idea that Laurie has feelings due to the bond, I was alwways a fan of Sharon embracing Laurie but after last update I have a new theory, Astrid will play on Laurie's jealosy and convince the cutiepie to get Embraced by her, either doing it wrong and Sharon would have to finish the job or Astrid does an honest job (perhaps if Astrid's romance variable has been set to true) and Sharon would have to pass arbitration as the Archon, and this part is backed by the fact that we get a Sharonsaveslaurie point by bowing to the douchebag canoe of a Princeps. in this case Sharon's supposed residual feelings for Astrid could play a part in Archon Sharon giving a favorable verdict to Astrid (that embraced without permission) and Laurie (that was embraced). under such circumstances Laurie's love for MC would counterbalance Astrid's teachings about morality.
Question for your consideration..... What are we seeing here?????
MC's "landlady" is talking with his landlady
 
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