VN Ren'Py Reclaiming the Lost [v0.10] [Passion Portal]

[Jericho85]

It's not official confirmation for you? Are you still going to insist that this wasn't originally an incest game?

Still waiting for that point...

 

[txe320]

Since everyone want a point, here we go;

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[DanThaMan]

It's not official confirmation for you? Are you still going to insist that this wasn't originally an incest game?

But the game is about finding his daughter, NO patch should be required to do that because if it did then those people who don't use the patch it will literally NEVER be able to find her...

Or like i said earlier, this just isn't an incest game and the daughter will never be a love interest. It's the only way the game will make sense.

 

[txe320]

But the game is about finding his daughter, NO patch should be required to do that because if it did then those people who don't use the patch it will literally NEVER be able to find her...

Or like i said earlier, this just isn't an incest game and the daughter will never be a love interest. It's the only way the game will make sense.

*Daughter.

 

[DanThaMan]

*Daughter.

Yep, fixed it

 

[Mars88]

But the game is about finding his daughter, NO patch should be required to do that because if it did then those people who don't use the patch it will literally NEVER be able to find her...

Or like i said earlier, this just isn't an incest game and the daughter will never be a love interest. It's the only way the game will make sense.

Dude, this game isn't just about finding his daughter; it's about the whole family. Grace was originally MC's mother, and Chloe was his sister. They are both LIs, so yeah, it's definitely incest game. And as for the daughter, it's obvious that it's Emily; this is the only character that we can rename at the beginning of the game. The dev may change it, or has already changed it because of Patreon's rules, but it was 100% an incest game from the start.

 

[Jericho85]

But the game is about finding his daughter, NO patch should be required to do that because if it did then those people who don't use the patch it will literally NEVER be able to find her...

Or like i said earlier, this just isn't an incest game and the daughter will never be a love interest. It's the only way the game will make sense.

I wouldn't go as far as saying never because there's always the possibility of "accidental incest" if MC is in a romantic relationship with his daughter before he learns who she is. I think if there is ever implemented incest in this VN, it's going to be that but it hasn't happened yet.

But Grace and Chloe? nah. Both girls are way too comfortable with MC getting handsy and flirting with them if he were blood related. There's no sense of taboo depicted at all in the way they interact, and it wouldn't really match the tone of this story in the first place. So it fits way better with the original dialogue. Family friends. Grace is a grieving widow still getting over her dead husband, and Chloe had a girlhood crush on MC. Hamfisting in an incest relationship just doesn't fit with them.

Besides, all of the dialogue in this VN uses hardcoded names for Grace and Chloe. When incest is intended, devs typically use placeholders (*cough* landladies and roommates) that can easily be swapped for the intended relationships with a patch or let the player choose relationships at the beginning. They make it pretty damn clear that it's meant to be incest but changed to comply with Patreon. Not this case with this VN.

 

[Jericho85]

Dude, this game isn't just about finding his daughter; it's about the whole family. Grace was originally MC's mother, and Chloe was his sister. They are both LIs, so yeah, it's definitely incest game. And as for the daughter, it's obvious that it's Emily; this is the only character that we can rename at the beginning of the game. The dev may change it, or has already changed it because of Patreon's rules, but it was 100% an incest game from the start.

Very unlikely to be Emily. Way too old to be his daughter and wrong eye color. She's an early chapter red herring.

 

[DanThaMan]

I wouldn't go as far as saying never because there's always the possibility of "accidental incest" if MC is in a romantic relationship with his daughter before he learns who she is. I think if there is ever implemented incest in this VN, it's going to be that but it hasn't happened yet.

I can't see this happening either, it would simply risk him getting his gamed banned on patreon.

 

[Mars88]

Here's the first version of the game for those who want to see for themselves

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I'm getting out of here

 

[Jericho85]

Here's the first version of the game for those who want to see for themselves

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I'm getting out of here

Nice find! And within a couple months, they were changed to being unrelated and it's been that way since.

Changed well before anything heated up with Chloe or Grace, I might add. Guess the dev decided against incest, didn't he?

 

[watdapakisdis]

People are so invested in the incest angle no one is asking if we're getting gay sex with Bob. That Bob friendship point needs to be relevant. Hopefully it won't be as useless as the love points.

 

[KiraJames]

People are so invested in the incest angle no one is asking if we're getting gay sex with Bob. That Bob friendship point needs to be relevant. Hopefully it won't be as useless as the love points.

We always needed some Bob in our life, inside and out.

 

[4rotciv8]

Very unlikely to be Emily. Way too old to be his daughter and wrong eye color. She's an early chapter red herring.

You are correct! Emily is between 20-21(University graduate) & his Daughter is supposed to be around 17-18. My BET is that it's CHLOE!!!

 

[zeromike]

People are so invested in the incest angle no one is asking if we're getting gay sex with Bob. That Bob friendship point needs to be relevant. Hopefully it won't be as useless as the love points.

What kind of friendships do you have with other guys? lol.

 

[Jericho85]

You are correct! Emily is between 20-21(University graduate) & his Daughter is supposed to be around 17-18. My BET is that it's CHLOE!!!

I think Grace would know whether MC was Chloe's father lol. I honestly think the daughter hasn't appeared yet. She might not even wind up being romanceable.

 

[filochard]

You're right, that was ridiculous. I'm sure you thought you had a point, but you didn't make it. Maybe try again?

it's in the script rpa, you could have checked it before telling he wasn't right






I think you could meditate this french saying: "Il vaut mieux se taire et passer pour un con plutôt que de parler et de ne laisser aucun doute sur le sujet."
"It is better to keep quiet and look like a fool than to speak out and leave no doubt about the matter."

 

[Jericho85]

it's in the script rpa, you could have checked it before telling he wasn't right

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I think you could meditate this french saying: "Mieux vaut fermer sa gueule quitte à passer pour un idiot que de l'ouvrir et ne plus laisser aucun doute à ce sujet."
"It's better to keep your mouth shut and look like an idiot than to open it and leave no doubt about it."

First off, calm your tits and keep the pointless insults to yourself.

Second, The dev has kept those variables the same since starting the project, but they don't necessarily mean anything in regard to the current state of the game. Yes, the first version of the VN introduced Grace as MC's mother, that is true... but the dev abandoned that incest concept four months later when he revamped the dialogue, well before things got intimate with Grace or Chloe. The relationships were changed, and neither the canon dialogue nor the characters' behaviors written since that point have shown even the barest indication of implied taboo between the girls and MC. Let's face it... The dev changed his mind about incest, and it was written out entirely. (My first playthrough was in May 2023 when v0.3 dropped btw, so the relationships were already changed at that point).

Besides, just think about it for a second. Grace is almost 60. If Grace was MC's mother don't you think she'd be a little more resistant at first to intimacy with her own son? Instead they're all over eachother, not a hint of taboo. So I very strongly doubt that the dev is writing these interactions with incest in mind. It just doesn't fit. But family friends? That fits. Grace is a grieving widow and now a budding romance with a long time friend come back into her life is getting her out of her grief. That makes far more sense. IMO, the whole "family fun" trope would be too distracting from where the story is going anyway, and I suspect the dev reached the same conclusion. Either that or it's Patreon related, or both. Whatever the reason, the dev still chose to cut the incest idea a long time ago.

So tldr, those variables are not really all that relevant when the scenes themselves don't support the incest trope. It's just as likely that the variables are indicative of early abandoned character concepts but dev chose to leave the old variable names in the game just to avoid unnecessary breakage. Like, Emily's variable is p for some reason and that doesn't seem to have any current relevance to the story thus far. We could guess, but they'd just be guesses.

If you still think the VN should have incest though, then why not become the new maintainer for the unofficial incest patch? It's been abandoned twice already now, so why not become the third?

Edit: btw the script.rpa you're referencing is not the current version. It hasn't been that way since before v0.2a. Here are the definitions in the current version (which is far more relevant):

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[fishbrain]

Big fan of the Evelyn scenes, but there's a part of me that feels he rushed that scene. It fits the cheating situation normally, but it wasn't a one time fleeting thing. They've been increasing the forbidden passion slowly but they skipped some big steps that make everything better, at least for me.

Then Bob stirs.. FUCK YOU DEV!! EAT A DICK ASSHOLE!!

By the way, I'm in the Chloe bug group.. does anybody have a fix or does the dev do bug fix versions?

 

[zeromike]

First off, calm your tits and keep the pointless insults to yourself.

Second, The dev has kept those variables the same since starting the project, but they don't necessarily mean anything in regard to the current state of the game. Yes, the first version of the VN introduced Grace as MC's mother, that is true... but the dev abandoned that incest concept four months later when he revamped the dialogue, well before things got intimate with Grace or Chloe. The relationships were changed, and neither the canon dialogue nor the characters' behaviors written since that point have shown even the barest indication of implied taboo between the girls and MC. Let's face it... The dev changed his mind about incest, and it was written out entirely. (My first playthrough was in May 2023 when v0.3 dropped btw, so the relationships were already changed at that point).

Besides, just think about it for a second. Grace is almost 60. If Grace was MC's mother don't you think she'd be a little more resistant at first to intimacy with her own son? Instead they're all over eachother, not a hint of taboo. So I very strongly doubt that the dev is writing these interactions with incest in mind. It just doesn't fit. But family friends? That fits. Grace is a grieving widow and now a budding romance with a long time friend come back into her life is getting her out of her grief. That makes far more sense. IMO, the whole "family fun" trope would be too distracting from where the story is going anyway, and I suspect the dev reached the same conclusion. Either that or it's Patreon related, or both. Whatever the reason, the dev still chose to cut the incest idea a long time ago.

So tldr, those variables are not really all that relevant when the scenes themselves don't support the incest trope. It's just as likely that the variables are indicative of early abandoned character concepts but dev chose to leave the old variable names in the game just to avoid unnecessary breakage. Like, Emily's variable is p for some reason and that doesn't seem to have any current relevance to the story thus far. We could guess, but they'd just be guesses.

If you still think the VN should have incest though, then why not become the new maintainer for the unofficial incest patch? It's been abandoned twice already now, so why not become the third?

Edit: btw the script.rpa you're referencing is not the current version. It hasn't been that way since before v0.2a. Here are the definitions in the current version (which is far more relevant):

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This works for me. I was confused by who they were to each other. I think the non-incest works better than the incest angle at this point even though it feels kinda 50/50 sometimes.