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Sacred_Sage

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My apologies for being negative, but after reading comments here, being stuck in my game and taking a look at your code, I think the structure of the game is going to present a lot of trouble for you and players that don't want a harem experience. If certain interactions require X amount of RS points to trigger (and the game comes to dead stop and won't progress), yet the previous choices in the game give the player the option of not scoring points or even acquiring negative values, then that's not a choice at all. Requiring players to replay scenes in order to finally achieve enough RS points is...well, I don't think I've ran across a game coded like this and am having difficulty understanding the logic of doing so.

I predict you will be spending much time on here helping players past these scenes, especially given that many won't read previous posts.
You don't get stuck at any point in the game, every scene in this game can be viewed by just doing the story. There is no required RS to trigger scenes besides a single scene which is a repeatable in the bedroom event which is pursued and only a lewd. There is no replaying this scene to build RS or SL. Just because an option is greyed out doesn't mean you are "stuck" I can play through the game picking every option that gives negative RS and see every scene. Regardless if you don't want a harem experience play something that isn't tagged as harem. That's the same as going into the forums of an incest game and crying about the MC bonking the mom.
 

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Reclusive Bay [v0.28.2] [Sacred Sage] crunched

Original / Compressed Size PC*: 1,94 GB / 648 MB - ReclusiveBay-0.28.2-pc-crunched.zip
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Reclusive Bay [v0.28.2] [Sacred Sage] crunched

Original / Compressed Size PC*: 1,94 GB / 648 MB - ReclusiveBay-0.28.2-pc-crunched.zip
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Download (PC*/Mac): Workupload - Pixeldrain - Gofile

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mag5246

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When loading any save after "spending time" late at night at Vivian's.
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Returns to the same scene with Vivian when trying to ignor or rollback from error.
 

Templar Knight

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hey Dev, i don't know if this is bug or i'm missing something, but i'm in hints say '' i should talk to Eve, and let her know i am about to talk to Vivian. '' but when i trie in RBPD she doens't have any dialogue about and i can't enter in her room.
 

RayJefferson

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Mar 4, 2018
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Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/summer_scenes.rpy", line 712, in script
    Casade "You are not scoring very many points with me [playerName]. First you ruin my relaxing time. Then you scared at my boobs like a tennager."
Exception: Sayer 'Casade' is not defined.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "game/summer_scenes.rpy", line 712, in script
    Casade "You are not scoring very many points with me [playerName]. First you ruin my relaxing time. Then you scared at my boobs like a tennager."
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 680, in execute
    who = eval_who(self.who, self.who_fast)
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 574, in eval_who
    raise Exception("Sayer '%s' is not defined." % who)
Exception: Sayer 'Casade' is not defined.

Windows-10-10.0.19041
Ren'Py 7.4.6.1693
Reclusive Bay 0.28.2
Wed Jan 19 02:56:59 2022
 

RayJefferson

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Mar 4, 2018
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Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/summer_scenes.rpy", line 823, in script call
    "(She's really beautiful. Damn it [playerName] quit thinking with your dick.)"
  File "game/script.rpy", line 607, in script call
    call migrate from _after_load_migrate
  File "game/migrations/migrate.rpy", line 51, in script call
    call use_eye_candy_pack2 from _call_use_eye_candy_pack2
  File "game/script.rpy", line 557, in script
    label use_eye_candy_pack2(item):
Exception: Required parameter item has no value.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "game/summer_scenes.rpy", line 823, in script call
    "(She's really beautiful. Damn it [playerName] quit thinking with your dick.)"
  File "game/script.rpy", line 607, in script call
    call migrate from _after_load_migrate
  File "game/migrations/migrate.rpy", line 51, in script call
    call use_eye_candy_pack2 from _call_use_eye_candy_pack2
  File "game/script.rpy", line 557, in script
    label use_eye_candy_pack2(item):
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 863, in execute
    values = apply_arguments(self.parameters, renpy.store._args, renpy.store._kwargs)
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 159, in apply_arguments
    return parameters.apply(args, kwargs, ignore_errors)
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 123, in apply
    raise Exception("Required parameter %s has no value." % name)
Exception: Required parameter item has no value.

Windows-10-10.0.19041
Ren'Py 7.4.6.1693
Reclusive Bay 0.28.2
Wed Jan 19 03:00:25 2022
 

Sacred_Sage

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Game Developer
May 26, 2021
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Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/summer_scenes.rpy", line 823, in script call
    "(She's really beautiful. Damn it [playerName] quit thinking with your dick.)"
  File "game/script.rpy", line 607, in script call
    call migrate from _after_load_migrate
  File "game/migrations/migrate.rpy", line 51, in script call
    call use_eye_candy_pack2 from _call_use_eye_candy_pack2
  File "game/script.rpy", line 557, in script
    label use_eye_candy_pack2(item):
Exception: Required parameter item has no value.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "game/summer_scenes.rpy", line 823, in script call
    "(She's really beautiful. Damn it [playerName] quit thinking with your dick.)"
  File "game/script.rpy", line 607, in script call
    call migrate from _after_load_migrate
  File "game/migrations/migrate.rpy", line 51, in script call
    call use_eye_candy_pack2 from _call_use_eye_candy_pack2
  File "game/script.rpy", line 557, in script
    label use_eye_candy_pack2(item):
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 863, in execute
    values = apply_arguments(self.parameters, renpy.store._args, renpy.store._kwargs)
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 159, in apply_arguments
    return parameters.apply(args, kwargs, ignore_errors)
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 123, in apply
    raise Exception("Required parameter %s has no value." % name)
Exception: Required parameter item has no value.

Windows-10-10.0.19041
Ren'Py 7.4.6.1693
Reclusive Bay 0.28.2
Wed Jan 19 03:00:25 2022
This was mentioned earlier today and I tracked it down its corrected so next update it will be fixed. and thanks for finding that typo for me as well. for Cascade. Sorry you encounters 2 back to back like that.
 

WuzzyFuzzy

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You don't get stuck at any point in the game...
Early in the game, when the MC is required to purchase a bottle of wine and meet Cascade in the kitchen, she does not appear unless the choice "Don't worry about it. I will cover it" is made. Otherwise, she does not appear...anywhere. Neither can the clock be advanced, so that fits the definition of stuck in my book. Nothing I could do but reload and make that choice. There was no explanation otherwise. I saw early in the thread that some had mentioned that, but at one point it was described as a bug that supposedly had been fixed with an update, so, as it still exists, I took it as intentional.
if you don't want a harem experience...
In regard to the "harem experience", some devs have the label but the story unfolds with opportunities to choose, so an element of mystery and discovery remains. Some devs have the harem label and only give the illusion of choice--there is neither suspense nor mystery. Why play such a game when the outcome is predetermined? Unfortunately, the presence of the label is not often differentiated and one has to either inquire or spend time playing the game until the dev's intent is made known. I'd rather find out sooner than later.
 

Termo91

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Did any of you manage to have sex with Cascade? Cause I can't pass the 29 rs and 8 sl. and idk if getting more sl will lead me to that!
 
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Alcibi

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In regard to the "harem experience", some devs have the label but the story unfolds with opportunities to choose, so an element of mystery and discovery remains. Some devs have the harem label and only give the illusion of choice--there is neither suspense nor mystery. Why play such a game when the outcome is predetermined? Unfortunately, the presence of the label is not often differentiated and one has to either inquire or spend time playing the game until the dev's intent is made known. I'd rather find out sooner than later.
I agree, that's how it is with some tags. In some cases a tag describes what the game will have, in others, what it may have. Both are fair uses IMHO. In some cases a dev may decide to reveal early on that such and such feature is avoidable, if indeed it is. When there's no such disclosure, I believe it's fair to expect either possibility. If I see a game tagged X but there's no notice that X is avoidable while I'd like it to be so, I have options what to do beside just playing the game to try and find out for myself. I can try reading the reviews, I can try reading the discussion, I can ask in the discussion about X. Or I can just move on – yes, I believe that's fair as well. But if at that point I choose to play it, any surprises regarding X should be entirely on me.
 

Sacred_Sage

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I agree, that's how it is with some tags. In some cases a tag describes what the game will have, in others, what it may have. Both are fair uses IMHO. In some cases a dev may decide to reveal early on that such and such feature is avoidable, if indeed it is. When there's no such disclosure, I believe it's fair to expect either possibility. If I see a game tagged X but there's no notice that X is avoidable while I'd like it to be so, I have options what to do beside just playing the game to try and find out for myself. I can try reading the reviews, I can try reading the discussion, I can ask in the discussion about X. Or I can just move on – yes, I believe that's fair as well. But if at that point I choose to play it, any surprises regarding X should be entirely on me.
There are already one major choice in the game that changes the course of the ending. With a 2nd on its way. The other choices in the game builds RS or SL which dictates another outcome in the ending. each girl will have 4 possible endings. Some choices are minor like RS, SL, money, peek snaps etc. However there are big decisions as well. (Which I have a new system for that coming soon so fire alarm bells and the whole 9 yards are happening so the player is made aware.)
 
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Alcibi

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There are already one major choice in the game that changes the course of the ending. With a 2nd on its way. The other choices in the game builds RS or SL which dictates another outcome in the ending. each girl will have 4 possible endings. Some choices are minor like RS, SL, money, peek snaps etc. However there are big decisions as well. (Which I have a new system for that coming soon so fire alarm bells and the whole 9 yards are happening so the player is made aware.)
Not that I was complaining about anything, but I appreciate your elaboration anyway.
 
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