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Is it just me or did the latest version remove the scene where the MC can choose to fuck Kat as a sister or girlfriend that was in 0.8? If so I'm glad I keep old versions, maybe someday I can learn how to put that shit back in, fuck these stupid changes and removing the best scenes that put the A in AVN. I mean WTF, why waste hundreds of hours making it if it's just going to get removed later? This is like the Nami ass job scene removed from Summer's Gone, a total crock of shit.
I restarted with v0.9 and that option was definitely still in the game. Depending on your choice, I'm pretty sure you increase either her submission or dominance, or else it's her love or corruption — I can't remember which. I might be forgetting something, but from what I could tell, nothing was lost as of this latest update.
 
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Meh, I'm patient but even I have my limits. Take her to Angola, AOC is actually 12 there. Or simply find a 12yo that knows how to keep a secret. Or if you don't wanna risk that or travel that much in my state there's no need, AOC is 16 here and it doesn't matter if her partner is 20, 50 or 100 (age gap isn't even a consideration) or even if they are related or not (so in theory if a 16yo sister and her 30yo bother wanna fuck and even make a baby they legally can).
Where TF is brother-sister incest not illegal (especially in terms of pregnancy) ?? I know plenty of places where it will get you executed, but I've never heard of a place that is A-OK with it...
 

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Where TF is brother-sister incest not illegal (especially in terms of pregnancy) ?? I know plenty of places where it will get you executed, but I've never heard of a place that is A-OK with it...
You know “plenty of places” where inhumanity is reigning but you don't know of places where things are different. Maybe you should go to school a few more years? Come to my country, where law has nothing to say if brother and sister have sexual relationships, even “in terms of pregnancy”. Er... better don't come, we don't need your kind :sick:
Sheep walking on each other on the way to the slaughterhouse. That's what is left of humankind. Fortunately some things, like this game, keep a reflection of beauty.
 
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You know “plenty of places” where inhumanity is reigning but you don't know of places where things are different. Maybe you should go to school a few more years? Come to my country, where law has nothing to say if brother and sister have sexual relationships, even “in terms of pregnancy”. Er... better don't come, we don't need your kind :sick:
if you make babies with your sister your kind is only an issue of the next (de)generations... issue solves itself.
 

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if you make babies with your sister your kind is only an issue of the next (de)generations... issue solves itself.
I'm not sure I understand. As far as I know, consanguinity is an issue when it becomes frequent. Personally I've never met such cases, so they mustn't be so frequent, even in my country where it isn't forbidden.
 

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I'm not sure I understand. As far as I know, consanguinity is an issue when it becomes frequent. Personally I've never met such cases, so they mustn't be so frequent, even in my country where it isn't forbidden.
You see.... oh you don't, sorry! Doesn't matter in this case!
 

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I'm not exactly sure how to read the table, but apparently there are many countries still where incest of some type is allowed ( ). I don't know any specifics based on the chart, but since some listings showing where incest is illegal include specifics like "brother, sister" one might conclude that brother-sister incest is actually OK wherever there's a blanket "legal" shown for a country. I think that's an overly broad and probably pretty inaccurate assumption, but I also can't imagine there aren't more than a few of the places listed where brother-sister incest is completely fine.
 
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I'm not exactly sure how to read the table, but apparently there are many countries still where incest of some type is allowed ( ).
The "still" is perhaps inaccurate, depending on what you meant: "as of this time" or "all the same". In countries which adopted the Napoleon Code (issued in 1804, if I remember well), incest was illegal before, because civil law aligned on Roman Catholic law.
I don't know any specifics based on the chart, but since some listings showing where incest is illegal include specifics like "brother, sister" one might conclude that brother-sister incest is actually OK wherever there's a blanket "legal" shown for a country. I think that's an overly broad and probably pretty inaccurate assumption, but I also can't imagine there aren't more than a few of the places listed where brother-sister incest is completely fine.
If you consider the example of France, which I know better, all kinds of incest are legal, only some marriages are forbidden (father-daughter, mother-son, brother-sister). So unless the chart is incoherent, "legal" applies to all cases.
 
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The "still" is perhaps inaccurate, depending on what you meant: "as of this time" or "all the same". In countries which adopted the Napoleon Code (issued in 1804, if I remember well), incest was illegal before, because civil law aligned on Roman Catholic law.
I've never heard of still being used to mean "all the same", and I can't find that usage in Merriam-Webster's Dictionary when checking just now. In any case, I meant "as of this time", as in, "...there continue to be many countries where incest of some type is allowed."
If you consider the example of France, which I know better, all kinds of incest are legal, only some marriages are forbidden (father-daughter, mother-son, brother-sister). So unless the chart is incoherent, "legal" applies to all cases.
Yeah, that's what I was talking about. I didn't see footnote / endnote references for almost any of those, so it's pretty hard to tell where the information was found to see to exactly what extent it's allowed. I therefore assume in those cases "Legal" means in a blanket manner, across the board. Since incest and marriage are not the same thing, blood relatives being prohibited from marriage doesn't mean they can't live together and be intimate without marriage. Marriage prohibitions don't mean incest is illegal.
 

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I've never heard of still being used to mean "all the same", and I can't find that usage in Merriam-Webster's Dictionary when checking just now. In any case, I meant "as of this time", as in, "...there continue to be many countries where incest of some type is allowed."
A random example: He says he doesn't like her, still he won't stop calling her. I think you could say all the same instead of still.

I wouldn't agree on "there continue to be many countries", which at first sight means that they are remnants of the past, as it is precisely the contrary: they were under religious law and some day they adopted civil laws that are separated from religious law, and I doubt it will change back. But it's a matter of formulation :)
Yeah, that's what I was talking about. I didn't see footnote / endnote references for almost any of those, so it's pretty hard to tell where the information was found to see to exactly what extent it's allowed. I therefore assume in those cases "Legal" means in a blanket manner, across the board. Since incest and marriage are not the same thing, blood relatives being prohibited from marriage doesn't mean they can't live together and be intimate without marriage. Marriage prohibitions don't mean incest is illegal.
This is exactly what happens in my country, except that only the blood relatives I mentioned are prohibited from marriage, for instance cousins at any degree can marry. I guess it's because it could create unsolvable issues in case of inheritance.
 

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A random example: He says he doesn't like her, still he won't stop calling her. I think you could say all the same instead of still.
Oh, I see now. The very specific use of that phrase to mean yet or still. I hadn't thought of that use, so I see what you mean now. Nevertheless, that's not how I meant it.
I wouldn't agree on "there continue to be many countries", which at first sight means that they are remnants of the past, as it is precisely the contrary: they were under religious law and some day they adopted civil laws that are separated from religious law, and I doubt it will change back. But it's a matter of formulation :)
You are using continue to be in a limited sense, such as nation by nation: "France continues to be a famous European country." However, I was using it more broadly: "In the past, incest was legal in some nations in the world. Today, there continue to be some nations in the world [not necessarily the same as in the past] where incest is legal." That does not mean the same nations that allowed it centuries ago necessarily allow it today, nor that nations where it previously was illegal cannot have made it legal now. You were definitely applying the phrase differently than how I was using it.
This is exactly what happens in my country, except that only the blood relatives I mentioned are prohibited from marriage, for instance cousins at any degree can marry. I guess it's because it could create unsolvable issues in case of inheritance.
There are a variety of reasons why it might or might not be allowed. You have cited religion multiple times, and while it's true that's had an influence in some parts of the world, there are several other factors that may have contributed to prohibitions on incest. I have heard some describe how incest could be the result of power differentials within a family, with one sibling dominating the other so they acquiesce when otherwise they would not engage in it. It's very possible some prohibitions stem from something more along these lines. It varies from region to region, I would think.
 
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There are a variety of reasons why it might or might not be allowed. You have cited religion multiple times, and while it's true that's had an influence in some parts of the world, there are several other factors that may have contributed to prohibitions on incest. I have heard some describe how incest could be the result of power differentials within a family, with one sibling dominating the other so they acquiesce when otherwise they would not engage in it. It's very possible some prohibitions stem from something more along these lines. It varies from region to region, I would think.
I agree with you.
I mentioned religion because its influence was very important in some countries. There are still many people in France or in Spain who believe that first cousins aren't allowed to marry; they can't at church unless the local bishop gives a special permission, but before the mayor they can.
 
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Great game, good renders, great models, girls are so hot, i really like the sister, the think is i don't really think updates are that enough. I didn't play that game since May 2023 and it seems there have been only one update ? A bummer, cause there's a lot of potential in that game. Not so many contents and that game is running since Summer 2022 i think.
 
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