Ren'Py Abandoned Rejected No More [v0.2.2] [RoyalCandy]

[NeroZee]

This game somehow feels like a step down from the previous one, still it's too early to judge it. It's early but for instances i am liking the girls more and more now when i played through it again in the new version.

As for the NTR, I am not sure i understand those questions, NTR is ok up to the point where she isn't cheating on me? Anyway when it comes to NTR as long as it's optional as in at NO POINT are you forced to into it unless YOU want to, than any NTR is fine by me. Hell you could have Adam NTR all the girls in the game as far as i am concerned as long as it's a choice that we as a player can make and not something that's forced upon us.

Personally i always appreciate when you come to a choice and it says in brackets (this choice opens up NTR path) that way you can chose or pass on that option. But just my 2 cents, i do like that the Dev is communicative with everyone and is interested in feedback, more Dev's should be like that.

 

[Marcope]

For NTR lovers here is a poll so I know if I should add a way for Adam to return in Christine's life, however this will not be the default path of the game anymore.

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Ok, I'm really confused about this poll, does the first option means No to NTR and the second Yes to it? Because that's a weird wording you did there with the poll.

Doing another poll just to see if you add NTR, after the poll where your supporters voted No to NTR when talking about kinks to see in the game seems weird. If you want so much to add NTR, just add it, make it avoidable, as in not happening at all, and be done with it. Because keeping posting polls just to see if people want it again and again it's distasteful.

Also you need to improve your wording, I mean those words that I highlight in red are confusing as fuck. If I was a NTR lover of course I would want to see other guys returning to the LI, that's their kink, so I don't know what's the point of making a "poll" for only the people that like NTR, if what's offered in the poll it's the return of their kink. It's like making a poll about "incest" returning to the game and wording it like this "this poll is just for incest lovers, would you want your female family members returning to the game..." of course they would want it.

If the poll on the other hand was worded better, and with a clear No NTR, yes NTR option and for all the people not just the interested in that kink, then that would be a good poll, otherwise you are just asking the NTR lovers if they want their kink back in the game and giving two poll options worded in a confusing way.

 

[Im only human]

For NTR lovers here is a poll so I know if I should add a way for Adam to return in Christine's life, however this will not be the default path of the game anymore.

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Maybe it's because I'm new or something but shouldn't this poll by targeted to all your audience? I mean you are making a poll about bringuing content that your supporters already voted against and you are directing the poll to the very people that would want that content back.

Besides wouldn't making that content, even avoidable, be a problem to all the people that already voted against it? I mean after all you would expend time doing renders in a content that they won't see, time that could be expend doing renders that people would want to see or coding something to improve the game.

Just my thoughts.

 

[royalcandy]

Ok, I'm really confused about this poll, does the first option means No to NTR and the second Yes to it? Because that's a weird wording you did there with the poll.

Doing another poll just to see if you add NTR, after the poll where your supporters voted No to NTR when talking about kinks to see in the game seems weird. If you want so much to add NTR, just add it, make it avoidable, as in not happening at all, and be done with it. Because keeping posting polls just to see if people want it again and again it's distasteful.

Also you need to improve your wording, I mean those words that I highlight in red are confusing as fuck. If I was a NTR lover of course I would want to see other guys returning to the LI, that's their kink, so I don't know what's the point of making a "poll" for only the people that like NTR, if what's offered in the poll it's the return of their kink. It's like making a poll about "incest" returning to the game and wording it like this "this poll is just for incest lovers, would you want your female family members returning to the game..." of course they would want it.

If the poll on the other hand was worded better, and with a clear No NTR, yes NTR option and for all the people not just the interested in that kink, then that would be a good poll, otherwise you are just asking the NTR lovers if they want their kink back in the game and giving two poll options worded in a confusing way.

The poll is dedicated only to NTR fans.
It not a NO or YES. NTR will be removed from the game in version 0.2, however some of my patrons decided to join my community just because I already had that type of content.
So the poll was to understand how many people will be affected by this big change I'm making, because if there will be enough in a future version Christine will ask the MC what's his opinion about she dating another man, which will be Adam, but that's only if enough people would like to have him back. Right now there are around 150 people who like NTR or like it in a small percentage.

 

[Otyi]

The poll is dedicated only to NTR fans.
It not a NO or YES. NTR will be removed from the game in version 0.2, however some of my patrons decided to join my community just because I already had that type of content.
So the poll was to understand how many people will be affected by this big change I'm making, because if there will be enough in a future version Christine will ask the MC what's his opinion about she dating another man, which will be Adam, but that's only if enough people would like to have him back. Right now there are around 150 people who like NTR or like it in a small percentage.

Hi!
Big thanks for the game!
There will be a fix?
Switched from one scene to another, crash in sis room and in the casino , after pizza delivery loop.

 

[Marcope]

The poll is dedicated only to NTR fans.
It not a NO or YES. NTR will be removed from the game in version 0.2, however some of my patrons decided to join my community just because I already had that type of content.
So the poll was to understand how many people will be affected by this big change I'm making, because if there will be enough in a future version Christine will ask the MC what's his opinion about she dating another man, which will be Adam, but that's only if enough people would like to have him back. Right now there are around 150 people who like NTR or like it in a small percentage.

I don' think you understand what NTR is, because the first option would be more of a no to NTR, since if she isn't doing anything with the other guy, not cheating, it won't be NTR. If they just talk it wouldn't be NTR, if they do something sexual or go to dates/things that couples do, then it would be NTR, so I think I'm not the only one that understood the first option as no NTR and the second as yes to NTR.

Also, if the poll is because some people joined you because of the NTR and you want to see how it will affect them, the poll should be a patreon one only, because otherwise if you make a poll for the people that like NTR and make it public, it will only bring people that love NTR to vote because their friends asked them to, even if they won't play the game at all.

Just another thing, are you sure that making NTR content, even if it will be avoidable, won't piss off your supporters that voted no to it when you were planning this game, and that already are/may be pissed because you made a first version with NTR?

Besides you can say it won't affect people that don't want NTR, but making an avoidable path would mean investing time on it, meaning doing renders, writing scripts/scenes/dialogues/things like that, that otherwise would be invested in doing more content for the path most want to play. Also you will face another problem in the long run, a problem that most games that do both routes face, the LI. If you do a sexual scene with a LI in the NTR path before the other path it will be bad, if in the NTR path they fuck pretty fast but in the non-NTR path they are still only kissing, it will be bad, things like that are why most of the games that try to appease to both groups don't really work, because NTR and non-NTR are too different. Now if you want to put NTR because you as dev loves it and want it in your game, then fine, but it seems that it wasn't the intention at all.

Now, I will tell you a secret about public polls, they are not too reliable, because if someone is bored enought he could expend some time doing accounts and upping his preffered choice, so it may be that 150 people like/don't like it or not.

Well I just think that you have not really understood the NTR kink and what it brings to your game, but you do you.

 

[Mr. Harper]

The poll is dedicated only to NTR fans.
It not a NO or YES. NTR will be removed from the game in version 0.2, however some of my patrons decided to join my community just because I already had that type of content.
So the poll was to understand how many people will be affected by this big change I'm making, because if there will be enough in a future version Christine will ask the MC what's his opinion about she dating another man, which will be Adam, but that's only if enough people would like to have him back. Right now there are around 150 people who like NTR or like it in a small percentage.

Woah, why things like this get complicated, in my opinion the problem is quite simple.

I look at the comments, people don't care about relationship between Adam and Christine.
The problem is why we see their having sex a.k.a voyeurism, it's simple and it's not hard to understand
The quest about get rid Adam and cuck him is really interesting to be honest, if you want make we hate Adam... make it any other way beside to watch him having sex (according to the poll you made before releasing in this game).

 

[Midnight Ghost]

The handling of ntr should have been done in the now suggested way of asking the mc about it, to either encourage or completely shut it down which now gives you the choice to want her as a LI or not (much like another game Love and Submission handled it's ntr with mother and mc), instead of just starting her in a relationship with adam. I mean that too would have been fine if you didn't show their sex scenes, but it really was just a bad way to start off with the first love interest available (there was not as much to do with sisters at the time).

I don't really see a need for a poll, you stepped into the ntr pool already in the first release, you might as well add it as the optional content if you already think you have enough patreons who signed up for it. You were already going to allocate time to render Adam scenes previously anyways.

Now the question becomes how are you going to handle the other supposed 30 girls which some of them will probably already have boyfriends before you get serious with them, which just rolls you right back to this first situation again, skippable or avoidable sex scenes? or just tell them to leave their boyfriends early on? Sounded like people wanted to the do the cheating, not be cheated on in the first place, so would just avoid that as much as possible unless added optionally.

 

[Scolar Visari]

it is for now a great successoer of no more secrets

 

[Tribal chief]

Only for few NTR lovers u are ready to leave ur Vanilla Fans

Just go back and see the payment of when game was not release then the payment of First Release
And Last check the payment when players Played ur game

And if u still want to make NTR as option


Then I think all the vanilla Fan should leave u
Then u can make ur NTR game without Any complain

 

[royalcandy]

New UI - Rejected No More

Hi guys,

I know that some of you didn't like the fact that you had to search for buttons in the scene, because it was not too intuitive.

I just finished the new UI. From now on there will be a footer which will be split in two. On the left side you have the navigation part. The rooms you can go to from the current one, while on the right side you have all the actions you can perform in that rom.

Also the Skip Time button will appear always except for when it's late night. In that case you'll need to go in your room and sleep.

The previous way of navigating in the scenes will still be available, so that means if you want to leave the room you either click on the door or you can click the button to leave it. The same thing goes for everything else.

I decided to split the house in 3.
1. First floor : Livingroom, bathroom, Christine's room and dinning room
2. Second floor : Hallway, Justin's room, Bathroom and Jackie's room
3. Yard: Back Yard, Front Yard, Patio and Tools Room.

Also the first button for every building will always be the City, where you can go to the map.
The first 8 buttons will be available in every room of that floor. If you are in the bathroom you can still go in the yard or directly to Christine's room.

On the left side there will be the activites you can do in each room.
I hope you like this design better.

Best regards,
Jason

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[bosp]

Not much in-game to form a definite opinion but the initial sandbox setup and family relations remind me a lot of Big Brother.
This kinda points at a lot of boring grinding, jerking alone in the room, and peeping and perving on the family. (overused and boring stat grind concepts nobody except hardcore masochists has the will to go through).
Plus... MC looks and acts like a wimp looser, a bit of a turnoff right from the start.

Nice interface and renders but, sadly, for a boring sandbox so it kinda does nothing for me - it just feels empty and hollow.

 

[Jstforme]

I'll never understand how a Dev thinks to themselves, "my best chance of being successful is forcing players to grind the same scene over and over...oh, and lets make it sandbox, everyone loves sandbox games with lots of grinding".
Remove the grinding and sandbox, and I think you may have something good. The whole point of stealing another guys woman is taking her while she's still in relations with him. The potential for some really spicy scenes and story is through the roof, as too many Devs pussyfoot around the subject, or think their general audience are closet cucks.
This Dev does seem to take what people are saying, so hopefully the next update will stick to the story he has in mind, and removes the sandbox/grinding.

Edit: And I agree with what others have said about how the MC looks...I wish he chose a model that better represented a potential Alpha...but as long as the story is good, that's what matters in the end.

 

[MangoMeta]

from his patreon " I was surprised to see how many people voted, so in the future Justin might be able to introduce Adam to Christine."
this dev is honestly the worst. what a stupid thing to do. it doesnt even make sense.

 

[royalcandy]

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Hello guys,
How are you today? I hope you're all fine.

PROGRESS STATUS

Last week we made quite some progress on the game. I finished writing the new content for the game and on top of that made big changes on the game architecture. Now the quests are better documented, the girl progress is way more easy to grasp.
I removed some grinding parts and made the game easier to play.

During this time Bishop was doing renders like crazy, for the new content and this week he should be done with them.

VISUAL NOVEL vs SANDBOX

Last week I told you about a possible surprise. Well it's here. If you remember I created a poll in which I let you decide which type of game you'd like to play. The winner was Sandbox, however the Visual Novel was very close, so given this, after talking a little with my partner we decided to please both of you.

In the poll the hybrid type of game had a mention that this would impact the content, however I found a way to not let this happen. The game is intended to be played as a sandbox, but for those of you who don't like this idea, I made a list of all the events in the game (more than 150) and connected them in a way that would make sense and would feel like a good long visual novel.

RELEASE DATE

This week we'll finish more or less everything and start testing the game, so the release of version 0.2 will be sometime next week. As soon as we fixed all the bugs that have been found we'll do the release for 40$patrons and 5 days later for 5$, however we're trying to give you all the game this month.

RESULTS FOR THE NTR

I was surprised to see how many people voted, so in the future Justin might be able to introduce Adam to Christine (THIS IS OPTIONAL), however this is not a priority and will take a few good versions to reach that point. Most of the players don't like the idea so I'm not going to focus too much on this and I might not even add this at all, but I'm open to the idea. If however I will add him in Christine's life, then you'll have full control over it, but I can't promise there will be too much content, because he's not important to the main story. There will be just enough to be interesting, but not enough to ruin the development of the vanilla version of the game.

I hope everyone is happy with the changes, because from now on we'll focus on the story and the content. There will not be anymore changes in the story. +20$ will still be able to vote on the development of the game, but I will not change the main story.

Best regards,
Jason

 

[royalcandy]

from his patreon " I was surprised to see how many people voted, so in the future Justin might be able to introduce Adam to Christine."
this dev is honestly the worst. what a stupid thing to do. it doesnt even make sense.

Makes sense for 104 people who like NTR and for 194 people who don't mind as long as is not cheating. On top of that I mentioned that I might not even add him back, but since there are more than 100 people who enjoyed that I don't see why this would affect anybody, since this content will not be available if you don't want it to be. Why would it bother you if someone else is playing the game different than you do.
It's something optional. If you want you can introduce him to her, if you don't you just don't. It's simple as that.
On top of that I even made that clear that this is not going to be my main focus.

 

[sirbajo]

I'm gonna play the game how you wanted it to be Sandbox xD

Love you content and i think ppl should be happy that you even changed things and listen to all the ppl nagging. Knowing that like 50 % of all the ppl who complain might not be a patreon.

 

[KingWeWuz]

I was surprised to see how many people voted, so in the future Justin might be able to introduce Adam to Christine (THIS IS OPTIONAL), however this is not a priority and will take a few good versions to reach that point. Most of the players don't like the idea so I'm not going to focus too much on this and I might not even add this at all, but I'm open to the idea. If however I will add him in Christine's life, then you'll have full control over it, but I can't promise there will be too much content, because he's not important to the main story. There will be just enough to be interesting, but not enough to ruin the development of the vanilla version of the game.

I hope everyone is happy with the changes, because from now on we'll focus on the story and the content. There will not be anymore changes in the story. +20$ will still be able to vote on the development of the game, but I will not change the main story.

Best regards,
Jason

Honestly you should have made a poll with three options:

1. light ntr/minimal sharing, (your first option)
2. hard ntr, (your second option)
3. no ntr at all

That way, you could get all the votes from people who were ok with 1 and not mistake it for option 3. I think many who were against ntr probably voted 1 because they were lazy and didn't read, misinterpreting it as less ntr vs more ntr.

Also, I think it would probably be better if you gated public polls with patreon only polls. That way people can't just open a new in private tab, create an account and get multiple votes. They'd need to actually spend money.

The reason people are going to complain and not wanna fund you, even in an optional scenario, is because they'd be effectively funding something they don't want. Every hour you spend rendering on that optional path is an hour you've spent on something they're not looking for.

You seem like the type to want to try to please everyone, but keep in mind this can backfire.

 

[royalcandy]

Honestly you should have made a poll with three options:

1. light ntr/minimal sharing, (your first option)
2. hard ntr, (your second option)
3. no ntr at all

That way, you could get all the votes from people who were ok with 1 and not mistake it for option 3. I think many who were against ntr probably voted 1 because they were lazy and didn't read, misinterpreting it as less ntr vs more ntr.

Also, I think it would probably be better if you gated public polls with patreon only polls. That way people can't just open a new in private tab, create an account and get multiple votes. They'd need to actually spend money.

The reason people are going to complain and not wanna fund you, even in an optional scenario, is because they'd be effectively funding something they don't want. Every hour you spend rendering on that optional path is an hour you've spent on something they're not looking for.

You seem like the type to want to try to please everyone, but keep in mind this can backfire.

Thanks for the suggestion. The reason I didn't add a third option was because in a previous poll 200 people voted no to NTR/Voyeurism so I already knew what most of the people wanted.

I created only option 1 and 2 because I was more interested in the hard ntr and to see how many other people would be maybe fine with light sharing, but the decisions I made were based mainly on the hard ntr, because I know that some people didn't understood that option 1 is not option 3 like you showed.

As for rigging the polls I know that there might be people voting two or three times, but I already knew what my current patrons want, so my problem is what I can do to please as many people as possible, that's why I created the option to play the game as visual-novel/sandbox, that's why I removed some of the grinding parts and also that's why if some people would enjoy light ntr could have the option to play like that, because I already removed Adam from the story for the majority.

However it's not set in stone yet, I'm still waiting for version 4/5 to see how my game evolves and if I can afford to lose like 100 players out of which 20/30 people might even join the patron, I will not add Adam back, but since plenty of renders are already here I don't see why I could not add a hidden path, if that would please some people.

 

[pornyhubby]

damn